Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development

[ankit10]

After seeing so much hate and butthurt trolls spreading FUD around here, I actually hope they don't enable withdrawals too soon  I don't mind keeping my crypto locked there, as long as the trolls get mad because they can't withdraw 

lol, what if people will not stop trolling? then cryptopia is not going to allow withdrawal for the lifetime? Users have every right to troll the company in which they have their funds  I think you don't have any fund in cryptopia.

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[sluppy]

After seeing so much hate and butthurt trolls spreading FUD around here, I actually hope they don't enable withdrawals too soon  I don't mind keeping my crypto locked there, as long as the trolls get mad because they can't withdraw 

Its been what 2,5 months now with no end in sight handled like amateurs at every stage and We are Trolling Them ?? you gotta be f*ckin kidding me just look at some of the post by the "un"  officials in here .. NOT what you expect from a multimillion dollar company.

[Labrader]

After seeing so much hate and butthurt trolls spreading FUD around here, I actually hope they don't enable withdrawals too soon   I don't mind keeping my crypto locked there, as long as the trolls get mad because they can't withdraw  

That's a bold move, to be willing to part with all your EMB, SXC, MARX and TIT just to spite us.  

[somebody else]

Interest of the owners is to be paid from the company's profits.

All of their profits companies usually don't pay out to their owners.

There is always some retained earnings from last year and from previous years.

This exchange also very likely has retained earnings if it has some profits from previous years.

Owners of the company have their interests: to be paid out by dividends from the previous profits or the retained profits.

Clients have their interest to get what they bought  by trading at the exchange.

Clients bought many different coins and they want that coins.

Company offered to their clients some kind of  "tokens", "coins", "points" instead of coins they pose, instead of coins they paid.

If the clients want so, they (clients) can refuse exchange's offer to reimburse their coins by what they called CLM.

If the clients want so, clients can refuse their offer to reimburse their coins partially by NZD value on date determined by the exchange.

Remember, the exchange is not the court, and you can always refuse their offer if you don't agree with the exchange.

Also, for coins which are retained by the exchange (not allowing the withdrawal case), every client should have the right to get default interest defined by the laws.



Shortly, owners of the exchange want their retained earnings from the previous years, and clients want their paid coins. That two groups have opposite, conflict interests.

Clients have the bigger right and priority to their coins than owners have the right to get their retained earnings, all according to the law at the first place.

If some clients want to make agreements with the exchange to get their assets partially, then they will get partially what they paid.


Generally, the exchange owes us everything what we already paid or what we entered at the exchange for trading. We have the right for everything we pose at the exchange. Only the court can decide different. With the exchange we (every client) can make agreement the both sides, we (every client) and the exchange, agree with.


I thinks so, but the right opinion and advices everyone can get from the lawyer or attorney.

Will the exchange pay out dividends to its owners for the successful 2018 and previous years?


Will the sum of dividends be equal to the total profit for the year 2018, and previous years?


When will dividend day come?

[fapnnap]

ben I will get on my knees, praise you as a god and kiss your socks if you enable withdrawals

wen withdrawal monies.

They cant do that or they will be struck down lol. Other option: you cant withdraw the funds those don't exist. 

Fine, if ben opens withdrawals I would sweeten the deal by hiring thousands of smexy asian women to dance for him (however he wants *hint hint*) and send him all the awesome japanese monster girl comics that he could ever want, and that's in addition to me kissing the ground he walks on

[fapnnap]

After seeing so much hate and butthurt trolls spreading FUD around here, I actually hope they don't enable withdrawals too soon   I don't mind keeping my crypto locked there, as long as the trolls get mad because they can't withdraw  

That's a bold move, to be willing to part with all your EMB, SXC, MARX and TIT just to spite us.  

tittiecoins...reeee, did they ever build tittie-o-polis? (legit question, I haven't seen the roadmap in forever)

[somebody else]

Read this interesting article for QuadrigaCX exchange written by its attorney:

https://www.coindesk.com/from-law-to-lawlessness-bits-of-the-untold-quadrigacx-story



It is not uncommon practice to see the financial statements, reports for the exchanges even in the 2015:

"In 2015, it was pretty much unheard-of for a digital currency exchange to have an auditor and to prepare audited financial statements that it made available to the public. It was more transparent than many exchanges today."


QuadrigaCX started as the most transparent business, but finished totally nontransparent, by this very good article.

[somebody else]

Big exchange DragonEx hacked:

“We’re assisting policemen to do investigation. All platform services will be closed and the accurate assets loss recovery situation will be announced in a week. For the loss caused to our users, DragonEx will take the responsibility no matter what.”


https://www.coindesk.com/singapore-based-crypto-exchange-dragonex-has-been-hacked

[BenTheAnonMod]

Today we have re-enabled the API in another step towards restoring full service.

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1110704000255430656

[four3200]

Big exchange DragonEx hacked:

“We’re assisting policemen to do investigation. All platform services will be closed and the accurate assets loss recovery situation will be announced in a week. For the loss caused to our users, DragonEx will take the responsibility no matter what.”


https://www.coindesk.com/singapore-based-crypto-exchange-dragonex-has-been-hacked

Takes full responsibility.
Already released TX details, within 24hrs, yet 3 months later, no TX given by christchurchNZ.

In updates on the hack today, DragonEx’s Telegram admin provided wallet addresses for 20 cryptocurrencies to which the stolen funds had apparently been transferred.

https://t.me/DragonEx_EN/50324

Joanne Long
 in
DragonEx Official （EN）
After investigation, the stolen assets from DragonEx were transferred to the following address, we earnestly request help from all our fellow exchanges and other industry strength, please help us to investigate and traced the assets, freeze them and stop the assets flows.

BTC: 3BorUkWNFECFDoX877BSd2aPdRbPjPj45C
ETH: 0xa7f72bf63edeca25636f0b13ec5135296ca2ebb2
XEM: NARDPLCELIFJOYABZSYW2ZHIC7U2YQKOAAPPMEI3
EOS: worldfoxprin whatagoodeos
XRP: r4y4SZNzZDQdFR51RTFq23cjUvtV3WWzHx
ETC: 0x39c46975becee0e12eb384d066228600e02ab82a
NEO: ASwwE8eG2LecYezPUz3UQnBzgbNqoySiLQ
ABBC: AYQz4Zruq16pC8uBF3ThUraWWUo2tTWCaP
LTC: MS2hm59R95XUxek6vxSTSRjfkNHT3CA8gU
BCHABC: qz7r39tdkcq497p9d9mpftzaqh6v228x0uw6z4lf38

No official from liartopia made any statement until just a week  back.
No body at craptopia smart enough to make the basic plea for help trace, track, and freeze...

"we earnestly request help from all our fellow exchanges and other industry strength, please help us to investigate and traced the assets, freeze them and stop the assets flows".

This is a night & day comparison.
Transparency vs. Shunks

Speaking of Shady

Hi BenTheAnonMod, do you think its true that Cryptopia is trying to reopen/resume full service at/or before april fool  thanks

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/block.dws?1271974.htm

[BenTheAnonMod]

First maintenance response

DragonEx

DragonEx first took its platform offline saying it was upgrading its systems.

Cryptopia

We are currently experiencing an unscheduled maintenance, we are working to resume services as soon as possible. We will keep you updated.

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1084705458533785601

Same thing Cryptopia said



Second maintenance response

DragonEx

Later the same day, it announced that it was “still working on system maintenance"

Cryptopia

Update: We are still experiencing unscheduled maintenance. The next update will be at 8am NZDT (7pm UTC)

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1084767082464534528

Again, same thing Cryptopia said



Breach response

DragonEx

Before finally disclosing that it had been hacked yesterday.

Cryptopia

On the 14th of January the Cryptopia Exchange suffered a security breach.

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1085084168852291586

Oh look, a pattern



Informing appropriate Agencies

DragonEx

The exchange further said that it has informed several judicial administrations, including Estonia, Thailand, Singapore and Hong Kong about the attack.

Cryptopia

Staff then notified and involved the appropriate Government agencies, including NZ police and High tech crimes unit

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1085084168852291586

This is getting weird...



Cooperating Fully

DragonEx

We’re assisting policemen to do investigation.

Cryptopia

We would also like to make clear that Cryptopia are cooperating fully with the investigation team.

https://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/update-investigation-involving-cryptocurrency-company

Strange, just like Cryptopia...



Maintenance/Trading suspended

DragonEx

All platform services will be closed

Cryptopia

The Cryptopia Exchange will remain in maintenance mode, with trading suspended.

https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1085084168852291586

At this point, I honestly can't tell if four3200 is trolling or just oblivious to how they are handling it exactly as Cryptopia did... He has to be trolling surely...

[four3200]

Totally the same, Ben.
Totally the same, Ben.  yep yep.

here's the point (which you went great to lengths to deflect and avoid mentioning)

"the stolen assets from DragonEx were transferred to the following address"

Transparency vs. Skunks

[FactCexx]

The point where the two situations diverged is this:

For the loss caused to our users, DragonEx will take the responsibility no matter what.

1. Cryptopia has issued no such statement.
2. Cryptopia has taken what was allegedly stolen from everybody's balance.

And it makes no sense to keep secret what was allegedly stolen, unless you don't want it found.

[fapnnap]

ben, wen withdrawal bro, if you want your qt azn monster girls, you should enable withdrawls  

Pst I can even throw in a harpy and a snake girl dakimakura if you get it up and running bro

[HardFireMiner]

Yes, it's totally the same Ben, returning clients money versus aplying a haircut to ETH(100%), BTC(15%) and LTC(35%).

Same like providing exact addresses and transaction ID versus providing NONE.

Totally the same, Ben.

[fapnnap]

ben ben ben, i can throw in a spider girl dakimakura too!

all you have to do is enable withdrawals~

(p.s im cool with the 14% haircut unlike these guys, gib monies pls)

[KriptoGuruTR]

Best troll of the year: bentheanonmod

[BenTheAnonMod]

Totally the same, Ben.
Totally the same, Ben.  yep yep.

here's the point (which you went great to lengths to deflect and avoid mentioning)

"the stolen assets from DragonEx were transferred to the following address"

Transparency vs. Skunks

Cryptopia isn't accepting Deposits... so why would the hacker send anything to Cryptopia and the known ETH/ERC20 addresses were posted within the Cryptopia discord immediately following the breach.
Staff weren't able to enter the building or work at that time, so how could Cryptopia immediately following the event release anything you've suggested they should have officially?

Again, you're trolling right because no one is this dense...

Yes, it's totally the same Ben, returning clients money versus aplying a haircut to ETH(100%), BTC(15%) and LTC(35%).

They haven't said they will return clients "money", they haven't said they will return ANYTHING yet specifically. So again your example fails.

That is a good point though, the ONLY thing Cryptopia didn't do that DragonEx did is say

"DragonEx will take the responsibility no matter what."

This early they can't guarantee that, Dragonex says it will take responsibility no matter what - which is a silly thing to do because liability may be elsewhere.

[four3200]

WAT?

This is a sign of hopelessness the inability to even respond with coherent lies.

Where did the money go = We couldn't enter building.

Totally the same, Ben.

They take responsibility = They haven't said they will return clients "money"

Totally the same, Ben.

[BenTheAnonMod]

WAT?

This is a sign of hopelessness the inability to even respond with coherent lies.

Where did the money go = We couldn't enter building.

Totally the same, Ben.

They take responsibility = They haven't said they will return clients "money"

Totally the same, Ben.

Whats inside a building... systems, hardware, data... access... I know you are trolling at this point because no one is this stupid, not even on here.

Anyway, Enjoy your ignore. You aren't worth replying to anymore, can't reason with an idiot.

P.s keep replying though, nothing makes me happier than seeing the ignored people keep replying knowing you went to all the effort of writing some stupid message out and I didn't read it