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November 05, 2016, 02:16:58 AM
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1. Code is at

https://github.com/z-classic/zclassic

Please:
1. Mine the testnet and submit bug reports

2. Add seed nodes for launch in a few days

3. Help build binaries for Windows / Mac

I don't get 20% tax here, so I need your help!

Edit: updated post with new url / info

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November 05, 2016, 03:24:42 AM
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As much as I disagree with the 20% "tax" I don't think forks without it offer anything at all. Especially long term.

I strongly belive we should just fork the existing Zcash with a much lower dev fee. Maybe 0.5% instead of 20%.

Personally, I wouldn't even mind a longer than a 4 years of dev fee period as long as it's actually reasonable and most importantly it doesn't get in the way of proper distribution and decentralization.

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November 05, 2016, 05:42:23 AM
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Zclassic has a genesis block and single node testnet up:

./src/zcashd -connect=54.191.72.102

https://github.com/z-classic/zclassic

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November 05, 2016, 05:58:15 AM
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could be interesting with a proper governance structure and well used tax.
how are you do the trusted setup safely though ?

http://MutualCapitalCrypto.com

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November 05, 2016, 05:59:51 AM
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It uses the same trusted parameters Zcash set up.

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November 05, 2016, 06:06:59 AM
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It is kind of scary that anyone's code could be copied so quick though. Perhaps waiting a few months would be better.

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November 05, 2016, 07:21:50 AM
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It uses the same trusted parameters Zcash set up.

I am interested in this, did you use the same sprout-proving.key (980MB) used by Zcash to verify keys etc. or did you generate your own? I am asking because this info seems to suggest it was created just for zcash

https://github.com/zcash/mpc

As there isn't full information on how this is generated, how did you do it?

Soooooooon...............
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November 05, 2016, 07:33:38 AM
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Yes, you use the same trusted setup.

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November 05, 2016, 07:37:45 AM
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pool ?
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November 05, 2016, 07:40:26 AM
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There is no pool.  You'd have to make one.

I changed the ip for the server to 54.191.72.102

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November 05, 2016, 07:43:04 AM
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pool ?
you don't need a pool to mine blocks on a cpu right now with the network having very little power.

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November 05, 2016, 07:45:11 AM
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how to mine in windows?

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November 05, 2016, 07:48:13 AM
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how to mine in windows?

You need to use a linux VM

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November 05, 2016, 07:51:33 AM
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1. I took out the 20% founder's reward for Zcash here:

https://github.com/heyrhett/zcash-minus-founders-reward

2. I have code ready to mine a new genesis block whenever we are ready.

3.  Right now, I need seed nodes to get the network started.


I have no interest in running this myself, or as a pump-and-dump scam where I try to mine a lot of coins early and pump it later.  This is only going to happen if people want it, and it's a community effort.


Please discuss more here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NotZcash/
where pum
now rate 0.7 Huh

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November 05, 2016, 07:53:15 AM
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Pardon?
where pum
now rate 0.7 Huh

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November 05, 2016, 07:56:48 AM
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Yes, you use the same trusted setup.

You used the exact same file from https://s3.amazonaws.com/zcashfinalmpc/sprout-proving.key

Does that work to verify keys and everything once you changed the code? I thought it was generated from the unique source of Zcash so if you changed the source you would need to generate another one?

Soooooooon...............
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November 05, 2016, 08:00:34 AM
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Yes, Zclassic uses the same file.

No Zcash continues to change their code.  In fact, they are at 1.0.1 already due to a bugfix.

Yes, you use the same trusted setup.

You used the exact same file from https://s3.amazonaws.com/zcashfinalmpc/sprout-proving.key

Does that work to verify keys and everything once you changed the code? I thought it was generated from the unique source of Zcash so if you changed the source you would need to generate another one?

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November 05, 2016, 08:03:10 AM
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how to mine in windows?

You need to use a linux VM
Sory i am new with kind of stuff like Linux VM ,to complicated to me.
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November 05, 2016, 08:20:26 AM
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is anybody able to connect?  i'm showing 2 connections, but no blocks have loaded.

./src/zcash-cli getpeerinfo
[
    {
        "id" : 6,
        "addr" : "54.191.72.102",
        "addrlocal" : "54.159.69.83:36785",
        "services" : "0000000000000001",
        "lastsend" : 1478334137,
        "lastrecv" : 1478334138,
        "bytessent" : 396,
        "bytesrecv" : 99117,
        "conntime" : 1478334017,
        "timeoffset" : 0,
        "pingtime" : 0.06613000,
        "version" : 170002,
        "subver" : "/MagicBean:1.0.1/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "startingheight" : 66,
        "banscore" : 50,
        "synced_headers" : -1,
        "synced_blocks" : -1,
        "inflight" : [
        ],
        "whitelisted" : false
    }
]

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November 05, 2016, 08:22:42 AM
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Hmm, i'm connected:

this is my zcash.conf

gen=1
genproclimit=1
equihashsolver=tromp
server=1
listen=1

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