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NO, Zclassic was not a free coin / hardfork for Zcash users.. it was a code fork and a totally new coin that did NOT inherit ZEC transactions/UTXO
it only inherited the code MINUS the founders' tax, premine, slow start..Hi, I've found this thread reading BlockchainForums, it's discussed there in relation to Zcash and Zencash https://blockchainforums.info/topic/388/zencash-vs-zcash-all-you-need-to-know/4I was surprised by "20% Founders Reward is removed." So really ZCash founders have 20% of ZCash (or had in the beginning) For me that's a lot, especially considering the price of ZCash! Definitely ZClassic has a room to grow! iM sad but not surprised that the wikipedia article was removed, but there's a latest copy of it here, right before unfair DELETION: http://web.archive.org/web/20180322010119/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zclassic
Zclassic started as a fork of Zcash on November 5, 2016, eight days after Zcash's own release.
At launch, the only differences between them was that Zclassic waived the 20% miners fee for its founders, and supply was not artificially limited at its creation (i.e. no "slow start" for blocks). Zclassic kept the same defining parameters of Zcash, such as the use of the ASIC-resistant equihash timestamping scheme, and a total supply of 21 million units.
Great, thanks for additional info! I didn't know that the difference was only 8 days. So probably Zcash owners do not have Zclassic amounts? (Like in Bitcoin Cash fork every Bitcoin holder receive same amount of Bitcoin Cash).. "MINUS the founders' tax, premine, slow start" - you mean tax (or may be better to say royalty?) to founders of ZCash? How long was premine and slow start? It seems it's profitable for miners to join on slow start and mine a lot of coins... I was just wondering whether this tax that goes towards the ZCASH guys will be coded into the protocol forever? Or will there be a last block with that tax? Yes, also in many crypto-communities I noticed big dislike towards tax as a notion. So even if it's tax to ZCASH guys I don't think it's very good idea That wasn't really the answer to my question. I was asking whether the income stream from that tax to the devs will be deducted from every block forever? |
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May 31, 2018, 03:59:03 AM |
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June 01, 2018, 12:47:00 AM |
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My investment in ZCL is down 35% but I’m not worried. Don’t invest more than you can afford to lose! Good time to buy rn
same here, but i'm not worrying about price because i see something strong in this coin, with the actual supply and the new investors and also the new announcement planned we will reach moon soon. |
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June 02, 2018, 05:57:05 AM |
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❗️Hello to all our ZCLers - as promised, here's a link to the proposal we've sent to the BTCP team in our bid to become the official team for Zclassic - ❗️ https://t.me/ZclassicCE_AnnouncementZClassic Community Edition. |
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June 02, 2018, 01:02:20 PM |
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why Zclassic is needed, if there is Bitcoin Private?
don`t understand...
If you think a little bit more about it shouldn't you come to the results that you could post that comment in 1,000 other threads, too? The forking won't end, it will go on forever. It will be interesting to see where the privatization of money takes us eventually. I think this coin isn't still attractive with many investors and it has no special technology in the future because it 's only fork of ZEC . This is what I don't want to join this project for my long-term investment. Sticking with the larger ones has been a good strategy so far. And even if you just collected all the forked coins for your Bitcoin holdings and sold them, that's a nice dividend. |
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June 02, 2018, 07:07:10 PM |
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why Zclassic is needed, if there is Bitcoin Private?
don`t understand...
If you think a little bit more about it shouldn't you come to the results that you could post that comment in 1,000 other threads, too? The forking won't end, it will go on forever. It will be interesting to see where the privatization of money takes us eventually. I think this coin isn't still attractive with many investors and it has no special technology in the future because it 's only fork of ZEC . This is what I don't want to join this project for my long-term investment. Sticking with the larger ones has been a good strategy so far. And even if you just collected all the forked coins for your Bitcoin holdings and sold them, that's a nice dividend. Exactly and if a fork is announced like happened with ZCL, you should know it is almost already too late to get in at a fair price as those who plan to fork already filled their bags. |
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June 02, 2018, 07:47:21 PM |
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I have some coins from some months back that I had in my electrum wallet which appears to be down. What trustworthy wallet can I get to get my coins? Thanks.
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June 04, 2018, 12:54:00 PM |
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June 04, 2018, 05:32:47 PM |
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FALSE Rhett Creighton has not been involved in neither Zclassic nor Bitcoin Private's development for quite some time now.. why Zclassic is needed, if there is Bitcoin Private?
don`t understand...
For starters where can you buy Bitcoin Private? There's hardly on any exchanges, whereas ZClassic is available on many other sites. BTCP and ZCL prices are nearly the same (for the time being). The BTCP team needs to release ZCL the new ZCL CE team and take over and start implementing their roadmap. That is not a valid reason now support for this coin start increasing you find the list on CMC HitBTC is a big exchange if you are interested to buy. ZCL has very bad image and still under the control of Rhett even there is tweet he is out from the team but I don't think that is true. Can that even be proven? Maybe they officially removed him because they noticed that he might be a very controversial figure that draws a lot of attention from authorities. |
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June 06, 2018, 08:11:42 PM |
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Hi all, core dev here. Great to see the nice market moves these past few days and all of the excitement happening.
As an update, I've recently just put in my resignation notice at my employer so that I can work on ZCL and Zen full time. I should have a new version of the Eleos wallet out sometime next week.
-movrcx
Scratch that, he's got a bit of time to do in Leavenworth first.  https://www.npr.org/2018/06/06/617454787/stolen-armored-vehicle-chase-ends-with-soldiers-arrest |
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June 11, 2018, 03:25:44 AM |
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Has ZClassic had strong mechanisms to fight against terrible potential 51% Replay attacks?
What happened with ZenCash is terrible, and I won't want to see such the same attack on Zclassic network.
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June 11, 2018, 11:20:56 PM |
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Do you really think that this is the best community? It has been hit so hard by the fork and I don't know whether it can ever fully recover. Doubt it to be honest. |
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June 12, 2018, 10:51:03 PM |
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The final results are in, with 678 votes:
38% Hexx (HXX)
12% PrimeCoin (XPM)
50% Zclassic (ZCL)
https://twitter.com/crypto_junky_86/status/1004253927930519553The fact that the Zclassic Community was able to bounce back and fend for itself after BTCP developers left it, and we have been through the worst of trials yet look where we are.. i think this is a testament to how Robust and Steadfast the Zclassic Blockchain Network and our Human Community have become despite these challenges.
Here are significant documents for you to consider:
1.) Last BTCP document regarding the transition, outlining the process for Zclassic continuity: https://medium.com/@ZclassicCoin/the-future-of-zclassic-c2b3206c1233
2.) ZclassicCE has supported Zclassic since the above announcement from BTCP team, further support & development is outlined here: az.cl/ZclassicDevPlan
3.) on behalf of Zclassic Community, ZclassicCE has submitted its proposal to take over official Zclassic development here: az.cl/ZCLProposal
these are our Links: (website) http://Zclassic-CE.orgDo you really think that this is the best community? It has been hit so hard by the fork and I don't know whether it can ever fully recover. Doubt it to be honest. I know that all those are valid points to also believe that there might be something going on here in a positive way but I really disliked the way all the fork stuff went and how many people have been burned financially. |
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June 15, 2018, 07:32:30 PM |
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TO THE MOOOONNNN
$100 - $200 FOR 1 ZCL SOON
LET THE FORK DO HIS THING
BTCA GOOD LUCK AND ALL ZCL HOLDERS.
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June 15, 2018, 07:37:23 PM |
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TO THE MOOOONNNN
$100 - $200 FOR 1 ZCL SOON
LET THE FORK DO HIS THING
BTCA GOOD LUCK AND ALL ZCL HOLDERS.
That fork scam has been exposed already so this won't work anymore so stop dreaming with open eyes. But there is something suspicious behind the scene we can keep this could pump soon. |
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June 18, 2018, 04:55:31 PM |
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Hello all guys, will you participate in Anon bounty program?
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June 19, 2018, 02:56:54 AM |
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WELL, you can't prevent people from making stupid decisions, it's an open market with lots of noobs, but let's just hope their misfortune made them the wiser, otherwise WHAT A WASTE! people need to learn how to learn from their experience and do their own research, instead of acting like lemmings I know that all those are valid points to also believe that there might be something going on here in a positive way but I really disliked the way all the fork stuff went and how many people have been burned financially. The final results are in, with 678 votes:
38% Hexx (HXX)
12% PrimeCoin (XPM)
50% Zclassic (ZCL)
https://twitter.com/crypto_junky_86/status/1004253927930519553The fact that the Zclassic Community was able to bounce back and fend for itself after BTCP developers left it, and we have been through the worst of trials yet look where we are.. i think this is a testament to how Robust and Steadfast the Zclassic Blockchain Network and our Human Community have become despite these challenges.
Here are significant documents for you to consider:
1.) Last BTCP document regarding the transition, outlining the process for Zclassic continuity: https://medium.com/@ZclassicCoin/the-future-of-zclassic-c2b3206c1233
2.) ZclassicCE has supported Zclassic since the above announcement from BTCP team, further support & development is outlined here: az.cl/ZclassicDevPlan
3.) on behalf of Zclassic Community, ZclassicCE has submitted its proposal to take over official Zclassic development here: az.cl/ZCLProposal
these are our Links: (website) http://Zclassic-CE.orgDo you really think that this is the best community? It has been hit so hard by the fork and I don't know whether it can ever fully recover. Doubt it to be honest. It's probably human nature that you have the majority of people behave like lemmings. And even if someone becomes better and leaves the lemming boat, there will be new lemmings streaming in at a fast pace. |
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June 19, 2018, 07:42:15 AM |
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WELL, you can't prevent people from making stupid decisions, it's an open market with lots of noobs, but let's just hope their misfortune made them the wiser, otherwise WHAT A WASTE! people need to learn how to learn from their experience and do their own research, instead of acting like lemmings I know that all those are valid points to also believe that there might be something going on here in a positive way but I really disliked the way all the fork stuff went and how many people have been burned financially. The final results are in, with 678 votes:
38% Hexx (HXX)
12% PrimeCoin (XPM)
50% Zclassic (ZCL)
https://twitter.com/crypto_junky_86/status/1004253927930519553The fact that the Zclassic Community was able to bounce back and fend for itself after BTCP developers left it, and we have been through the worst of trials yet look where we are.. i think this is a testament to how Robust and Steadfast the Zclassic Blockchain Network and our Human Community have become despite these challenges.
Here are significant documents for you to consider:
1.) Last BTCP document regarding the transition, outlining the process for Zclassic continuity: https://medium.com/@ZclassicCoin/the-future-of-zclassic-c2b3206c1233
2.) ZclassicCE has supported Zclassic since the above announcement from BTCP team, further support & development is outlined here: az.cl/ZclassicDevPlan
3.) on behalf of Zclassic Community, ZclassicCE has submitted its proposal to take over official Zclassic development here: az.cl/ZCLProposal
these are our Links: (website) http://Zclassic-CE.orgDo you really think that this is the best community? It has been hit so hard by the fork and I don't know whether it can ever fully recover. Doubt it to be honest. It's probably human nature that you have the majority of people behave like lemmings. And even if someone becomes better and leaves the lemming boat, there will be new lemmings streaming in at a fast pace. I think this coin deserves at least ratio 1:10 to Zcash, similiar to ETH/ETC. Zcash will have plenty of dev workers for the first 4 years with the mining tax, after that its hard to say. Their situation won't be much different than zcl's currently.. |
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June 20, 2018, 07:12:23 PM |
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Do you see this?
From Nytmare:
◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️
✴️ ANONYMOUS BITCOIN ✴️
◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️◾️
➕ $ANON
➕ September 10th, 2018
➕ Forks ZCL / BTC
➕ 1:1 ratio for each held
🔑 ZK-Snarks Privacy Tech
🔑 Segwit & Lightning Network
🔑 Masternodes = 100 ANON
🔑 Block Reward 65% Miners / 35% Masternodes
🔑 24M circ (est) / 31.5M total Supply
🔑 No Pre-mine
🔑 Coin Burn in January
🔑 Asic Resistant
🔑 Hybrid Consensus: PoW + PoS
STRONG TEAM = TECH + BIZ + MEDIA + LAW
🔥MAJOR exchange listings & support (Top 5 TBA)
🔥MAJOR International media coverage (CNBC, etc.)
🔥Key INFLUENTIAL advisors (Ran Neuner, # 8 most influential)
🔥Dev lead a CRYPTO ECONOMIST, building usecase and value
🔥Working COLLABORATIVELY with ZClassic Devs
🔥Better PROTECTION against 51% attacks with hybrid consensus
🔥TRANSPARANCY throughout process
🔥Pacing AHEAD of schedule and may move up timeline ⚠️
▶️MILESTONES◀️
✅ Announced on CNBC
✅ Website Go Live
✅ Executive Summary
✅ Presence at Consensus 2018
✅ Collaboration with ZCLassic
✅ Major Media Coverage (CNBC)
✅ White Paper Published
✅ Major Advisor Announced
✅ Presence at Blockshow Europe
✅ Bounty Campaign Launched
🔵 Seoul crypto conference
🔵 Tokyo crypto conference
🔵 Paris crypto conference
🔵 Marketing Rollout
🔵 2nd Major Advisor Announced
🔵 3rd Major Advisor Announced
🔵 Testnet Go Live
🔵 Exchange Listings Announced
🔵 Exchange Support Confirmed
🔵 Wallets Launched
⚡️ Fork
🔵 Mainnet Go Live
🔵 Exchange Trading Begins
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June 24, 2018, 09:23:49 PM |
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TO THE MOOOONNNN
$100 - $200 FOR 1 ZCL SOON
LET THE FORK DO HIS THING
BTCA GOOD LUCK AND ALL ZCL HOLDERS.
That fork scam has been exposed already so this won't work anymore so stop dreaming with open eyes. But there is something suspicious behind the scene we can keep this could pump soon. What are your thoughts addicto? what will be the highest price the next couple of months? calculating all the things happening to Zclassic i strong believe it wil hit $ 100 minimum before 09-09-2018 Good luck to all Zclassic Holders. |
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