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November 06, 2016, 03:43:06 PM
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Hello, a year ago i was mining at kano.is and it was performing really good! I stopped mining for X reason but now im back again, but now i heard people saying that slushpool is better now than kano.is? Kano luck has diminished too.

Is there a better pool? any recommendations thanks? 

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November 06, 2016, 04:50:43 PM
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sure:

Have you a lot or a little hash power?

If you are really low on hash power  under 500gh  mining at kano.is  may put you in the dust payment area.  You don't want to mine dust at kano pool.


as for luck:


 https://slushpool.com/stats/


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Last 10 Blocks
85.02 %
Last 50 Blocks
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Last 250 Blocks


the above is not so good.

and kano has been down from Aug to Nov around 95%

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November 06, 2016, 05:23:56 PM
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I have 35 TH/S

So if kano is down and slush is not so good? Then with my hashing power which pool should i be?

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November 06, 2016, 05:55:40 PM
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Solo mine. Been a fair few blocks lately on the solo.ckpool

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November 06, 2016, 06:57:10 PM
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Solo mine is not a option for me.

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November 06, 2016, 09:40:35 PM
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 Just be your own boss and mine at p2pool
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November 06, 2016, 10:24:18 PM
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Kano.is
The luck is always expected to be just 100% in a long run and Kano is usually a bit over that.
They also pay tx fees to the miners in Kano.is which is something that some pools don't do.

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November 07, 2016, 02:38:33 AM
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tx fees to the miners? what you mean why they pay tx fees to the miners? I guess kano.is still the best pool.

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November 07, 2016, 02:44:53 AM
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Bitcoin.com has a mining pool now, it could still be in beta i believe so if you need an invite just let me know and I'll see what I can do.

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November 07, 2016, 02:59:51 AM
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I would like an invite.

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November 07, 2016, 04:25:23 AM
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Bitcoin.com has a mining pool now, it could still be in beta i believe so if you need an invite just let me know and I'll see what I can do.

I'd like a invite too Cheesy

You think this new bitcoin.com pool worth it vs kano.is?

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November 07, 2016, 04:50:31 AM
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Kano pay the fees to the miners ! not sure about slush.

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November 07, 2016, 05:13:53 AM
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Bitcoin.com has a mining pool now, it could still be in beta i believe so if you need an invite just let me know and I'll see what I can do.
It's just antpool - trying to hide the fact that they are getting larger, but splitting their hash rate across another pool.

Also - current Reward
"PPS - 0 fee"
 soon to be
"PPS - 1.5% fee"

Any PPLNS pool that includes transaction fees has a higher expected payout than that.

My pool for example:
Transaction fees have averaged over 3% for about 6 months or more (and have grown since then too)

So the "expected" payout (that we usually pay more than) is greater than PPS + 1.1%
The 1.1% comes from: pool fee of 0.9% and expected orphans of 1%

The difference is:
Do you want exactly PPS (or PPS - 1.5%) every day, or do you want a varying payout that's expected to be PPS + 1.1% or more?

Seems most people prefer to be paid less Tongue

On kano.is we've only had one month since March where the average PPS reward was less than "PPS - 1.5%"
August was "PPS - 3.16%"

September was "PPS - 1.33%" and all others since March have been above PPS - e.g. June was "PPS + 11.59%" ...

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November 07, 2016, 05:25:25 AM
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Bitcoin.com has a mining pool now, it could still be in beta i believe so if you need an invite just let me know and I'll see what I can do.
It's just antpool - trying to hide the fact that they are getting larger, but splitting their hash rate across another pool.

Also - current Reward
"PPS - 0 fee"
 soon to be
"PPS - 1.5% fee"

Any PPLNS pool that includes transaction fees has a higher expected payout than that.

My pool for example:
Transaction fees have averaged over 3% for about 6 months or more (and have grown since then too)

So the "expected" payout (that we usually pay more than) is greater than PPS + 1.1%
The 1.1% comes from: pool fee of 0.9% and expected orphans of 1%

The difference is:
Do you want exactly PPS (or PPS - 1.5%) every day, or do you want a varying payout that's expected to be PPS + 1.1% or more?

Seems most people prefer to be paid less Tongue

On kano.is we've only had one month since March where the average PPS reward was less than "PPS - 1.5%"
August was "PPS - 3.16%"

September was "PPS - 1.33%" and all others since March have been above PPS - e.g. June was "PPS + 11.59%" ...

I mine with your pool. I think anyone with 1th  or more should  mine at your pool.
I have 24th pointed your way.

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November 07, 2016, 07:15:34 AM
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tx fees to the miners? what you mean why they pay tx fees to the miners? I guess kano.is still the best pool.
kano.is don't pay a extra % of the block reward to the
block finder like p2pool does.
Do a bitcointalk search about that topic
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November 07, 2016, 08:51:31 AM
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tx fees to the miners? what you mean why they pay tx fees to the miners? I guess kano.is still the best pool.
kano.is don't pay a extra % of the block reward to the
block finder like p2pool does.
Do a bitcointalk search about that topic
No we average more transaction fees paid to miners, instead.

However, with p2pool, that block finder reward not only means you get paid a little more if you find a block, it also mean you get paid a little less for every other block p2pool finds to cover the block finder reward.

A block finder reward only increases variance, not expected reward.

Then of course there's the issue of not finding many/any blocks per diff change that affects your rewards badly ... ... ...

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November 07, 2016, 02:12:03 PM
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Kano all day, every day.
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November 08, 2016, 10:56:53 PM
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However, with p2pool, that block finder reward not only means you get paid a little more if you find a block, it also mean you get paid a little less for every other block p2pool finds to cover the block finder reward.

I think kano hit the nail on the head with this.

The little bit more you might get if you find a block sounds good, but...

What that makes you think: "oooh a little extra if I get lucky and find a block  Smiley"

What you should be thinking: "That means I'm getting a little bit less on every block I don't find.  Cry"

Lets play with some imaginary numbers.
You have 35 TH/s.
The pool has 2000 TH/s.
The pool finds 100 blocks.
The fee on every block was 0.35BTC

If you find one of those blocks you get an extra 0.35BTC
If you don't find a block you do not get any extra.

If the pool pays fees to the miners you get 100 blocks x 0.35 BTC / 2000 TH/s x 35 TH/s = 0.6125BTC
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November 11, 2016, 01:11:27 AM
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Hello, Is there a way to see in kano.is if there was any interruption when hashing? I need that Sad

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November 11, 2016, 01:37:21 AM
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Hello, Is there a way to see in kano.is if there was any interruption when hashing? I need that Sad
I believe that the site itself has charts of your hashing power, and an API call to see when your last share was. You can use those to give you a notification or let you know if your miners ran into a problem.

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