I think I am going to withdraw my Bitcoin Kickstarter

[Matthew N. Wright]

I need it to be approved on the App Store...

Doing this *after* receiving funding is a bit...eh...

Why not make it HTML5 and just say "fuck you Apple"?

[the founder]

I have that already, if you "add to homepage" it puts up a nice button and everything.

it's designed to run on an iphone 5...

try it..  http://www.ounce.me

I really was hoping the community would support this as it will pave the way for everyone.

[blockbet.net]

I appreciate what you're trying to do and hope you'll get it done one way or the other.

Can you please explain in more detail how you would use the money should the project be funded? Why does this project need the money that you're asking? Saying that you need almost 6k for "development" isn't clear enough.

[simonk83]

I have that already, if you "add to homepage" it puts up a nice button and everything.

it's designed to run on an iphone 5...

So, why not just do that and save $5000?   I'm not trying to rain on your parade here, and I realise you seem to want to be the first Bitcoin kickstarter person, but personally I think you'll need something a bit more impressive than this to start the ball rolling.

Just my opinion though, feel free to ignore it

[the founder]

I appreciate what you're trying to do and hope you'll get it done one way or the other.

Can you please explain in more detail how you would use the money should the project be funded? Why does this project need the money that you're asking? Saying that you need almost 6k for "development" isn't clear enough.

I was planning on using http://www.inetu.net for webhosting =  $500/month ($6000 a year) for a dedicated server

I needed help for the iOS development, though I will be doing most of the coding myself, I still needed help for some parts of it - I was told that will run about $1200

Application fees and ect to Apple's App Store is 100 dollars a year  (which blows my mind because someone earlier said the whole project is less than the app store charge??)
https://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/

Total fees for the first year,  $7,300

What I am asking is $5.750

Meaning I am going to eat $1,550  because I thought I was helping the whole bitcoin community...

Just my opinion though, feel free to ignore it

I'm not going to ignore it at all,  I just wanted to have a limited successful kickstarter bitcoin project to pave the way for everyone else...  honestly that's why I am still in shock by some of the responses...

[farlack]

70k pageviews should be bringing some decent income.

$5700 for an APP that you're building yourself with a little outsourcing..
Are you paying yourself $100/h to make this APP?

You claim that the server $500 month is whats eating the cost..

So you want everyone to donate money to pay for your webhost.. While the rest of the year you make all profit with your adsense?

[simonk83]

I'm not going to ignore it at all,  I just wanted to have a limited successful kickstarter bitcoin project to pave the way for everyone else...  honestly that's why I am still in shock by some of the responses...

I think the main issue is that Kickstarter, in general, is all about innovation.  A lot of the successful stuff on there is quite groundbreaking (3D pens, touchscreen routers etc), so essentially rebadging an already existing webapp (which already has the ability to be saved as an "app" icon anyway), just seems like a bit of a waste of cash (yours and ours).

You have the right idea about "kickstarting" (excuse the pun) the Bitcoin train over there, but maybe sit back and have a think about what you can come up with that's a bit more unique (see BridgeWalker as an example).

[the founder]

essentially rebadging an already existing webapp (which already has the ability to be saved as an "app" icon anyway), just seems like a bit of a waste of cash (yours and ours).

You have the right idea about "kickstarting" (excuse the pun) the Bitcoin train over there, but maybe sit back and have a think about what you can come up with that's a bit more unique (see BridgeWalker as an example).

Bridgewalker won't get into the app store (though I FULLY support that idea!)

It's the first bitcoin project approved on Kickstarter...  it most likely will be a standard bearer in terms of Bitcoin projects approved or not approved at Kickstarter in the future.   It was like pulling teeth just to get this approved... 3 submissions,  2 rejections ... only discussions via e-mail with their staff...

70k pageviews should be bringing some decent income.

If you think a whopping 4 to 7 dollars a day is decent.....

Everyone else:

Honestly I am doing it for you, myself and everyone else that wants the bitcoin community to grow.   If you don't like it don't support it.  If you think I am doing the right thing than do support it.

I won't be able to please everyone...  but I know I'm doing the right thing.

[blockbet.net]

I was planning on using http://www.inetu.net for webhosting =  $500/month ($6000 a year) for a dedicated server

Okay. I have no idea what kind of requirements you would have for a server, but that sounds pretty darn expensive - can't you do with anything less?

http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated

Even their most expensive package is $374/month, and you could probably start with a lesser package and upgrade if necessary.

I don't have sufficient knowledge about iOS development to comment on the rest, but I can tell you that the key to a succesfully funded project is to keep the costs as low as possible (unless you're a celebrity like Tim Schafer).

[farlack]

70k pageviews should be bringing some decent income.

If you think a whopping 4 to 7 dollars a day is decent.....

$250 a month is pretty good actually.. You cant be using the bandwidth needed for $500 server... more like $50 server.

[Matthew N. Wright]

I was planning on using http://www.inetu.net for webhosting =  $500/month ($6000 a year) for a dedicated server

Okay. I have no idea what kind of requirements you would have for a server, but that sounds pretty darn expensive - can't you do with anything less?

http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated

Even their most expensive package is $374/month, and you could probably start with a lesser package and upgrade if necessary.

I don't have sufficient knowledge about iOS development to comment on the rest, but I can tell you that the key to a succesfully funded project is to keep the costs as low as possible (unless you're a celebrity like Tim Schafer).

Never use hostgater. They lock your accounts randomly and require you to send them government issued ID over unsecured email before unlocking them (worse than Paypal).

[the founder]

Never use hostgater. They lock your accounts randomly and require you to send them government issued ID over unsecured email before unlocking them (worse than Paypal).

That's something I would like to avoid.

Look guys, end result.. please back it...   not because you like the project...  but because it will pave the way for yours and everyone elses project to get approved.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Never use hostgater. They lock your accounts randomly and require you to send them government issued ID over unsecured email before unlocking them (worse than Paypal).

That's something I would like to avoid.

Look guys, end result.. please back it...   not because you like the project...  but because it will pave the way for yours and everyone elses project to get approved.

Wait, you want us to pay you $5000 so that projects will be approved in the future? If you've gotten yours up, and that was supposed to be the challenge, then isn't the work already done?

[PinkBatman]

$5 is simply WAY too high. Maybe for a buck I would consider it.

[W-M]

I like the idea. Even tough I don't have any iOS stuff nor would I like to get apple stuff in the forseeable future, I support it and I might give some money. It has to be very hard to be such kind of 'pioneer'. Your Kickstarter page is not fully finished, however. Here are some tips for your Kickstarter page:
-The big photo is pixelated. Use a .png instead, but 100x better to create a promotional video.
-Post the breakdown of what the money is used for on the Kickstarter page as well.
-Possibly add some more rewards. People like crazy stuff. I don't know, ounce.me stickers, maybe real cascasius bitcoins for people that buy enough and possibly other items that promote bitcoin and your site/app. Having a sliding scale of cost for the rewards makes people with different amounts of money more eager to throw their leftover savings at you.

Have a great time,

~W-M

[the founder]

That's good advice.  I don't know how much still allow me to tweak that page because it's a ready submitted and approved but I will try

[farlack]

Never use hostgater. They lock your accounts randomly and require you to send them government issued ID over unsecured email before unlocking them (worse than Paypal).

That's something I would like to avoid.

Look guys, end result.. please back it...   not because you like the project...  but because it will pave the way for yours and everyone elses project to get approved.

No interest in giving you $5700 for you to spend what ever on it. $500 a month for server space you should be paying for your website isn't something the community needs to fork up, especially since you're making $250 a month and only need a server that cost less than $50 a month to maintain. No one else gets their server space paid for.. You want the community to pay $5700 while by the end of the year you make $3000+ profit.

You telling me this

    OS: Linux CentOS 64-Bit
    CPU: Intel® Core™ i3 - 2 cores
    RAM: 2 GB
    Storage: 2 x 160 GB hard drives
    Bandwidth: 5 TB per month

Isn't enough to run your site?
That's $100 at godaddy.

You say 70k hits a day..?

Maybe if you had 70k visitors at any given time..

[the founder]

No interest in giving you $5700 for you to spend what ever on it.

It's ok farlack,  I really don't need your 5 bucks.    I was excited as today I did make history on this... but clearly SOME of you guys believe otherwise..

Anything I say or do will be wrong in your eyes,  though I am right, and fully believe in what I am trying to do.

Yea also Matt Wright ...  for once you are correct.. I paved the way for you... go take advantage of it.  Thanks for the help.

[Mosper]

$500/month for a dedicated server for starting out is absolutely ridiculous. Also I know MNW had a bad experience with HostGator, and there is a chance you'd be hit with a verification requirement as well, I think this is a positive aspect of the company. They take their customer's security very seriously. It is obviously not for everyone though and it's fine that he is not a fan. I respect his opinion but will maintain that it is the best webhost in the world and its track record and competition crushing customer satisfaction stands behind this statement.

http://www.hostgator.com/reviews

[the founder]

Mhmm it's a very very easy app. Nothing big.

But $5,750 goal?
Such an iOS-App cost just around $100.

The app fee alone for the Apple App Store is $100

$500/month for a dedicated server for starting out is absolutely ridiculous. Also I know MNW had a bad experience with HostGator, and there is a chance you'd be hit with a verification requirement as well, I think this is a positive aspect of the company. They take their customer's security very seriously. It is obviously not for everyone though and it's fine that he is not a fan.

I don't know hostgator well,  I will call them.   Though based on the feedback so far it appears that this project wont' get done.