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July 22, 2017, 03:02:33 AM
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We never had a problem like this before and this one is a weak accusation which is supported by people like you who wanted to bring the site down because you know that duckdice.io will become the number one gambling site sooner.,
That's a really outlandish assumption. Cognitive dissonance.
But he's right.
This is a coordinated attack (using you, Avirunes and me) from Bitsler, Bitdice and...ehrm, Gunbot?

*Crypto-Games, not Gunbot. From my insider information1, there will also be an attack in the near future from Betcoin Dice, FortuneJack Dice, Rollin, YOLODice, and possibly PrimeDice if they have a giveaway.



It's almost a loan you just need to follow the rules and be a bit attentive, how can you even call it a scam?

Deposit bonuses aren't even close to a loan. With a loan, I can do whatever I want with the funds (can't with a bonus), and I don't need to wager a certain amount before I can "claim" the loan. It's disappointing that all the whitelabel casinos with their deposit bonuses are better than yours (term wise, their games are generally worse).

It's also bad how you are handling this, and sending his BTC to charity.


1. I do not have insider information. That section of the post was sarcasm.

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July 22, 2017, 03:16:38 PM
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Without any proofs, your words are useless.
I've only seen innovations from DuckDice on one very boring market.
Read a few pages back, check the scam accusation or their feedback.

Scam accusations are regarding deposit bonus, the rules may be harsh but the issue is with the user who didn't read a warning messages and canceled his bonus.
How can you actually call it scam, we have our Bonuses already for about 9 months and we have MANY users winning big with our bonus and we always paying out. It's almost a loan you just need to follow the rules and be a bit attentive, how can you even call it a scam? Bonuses are not a core feature, if you don't want to take them, you don't have to. And we have a whole mod team who is great in unlocking bonuses, they would be more than happy to explain in details how it works and even give some hints.

Hey duckdice, I really have a goos time with your site last time and I never have this problem because I never claimed aboit this bonuses. But you really should change your ToS in order to remove those red trust, that is really annoying when new member saw that you have red trust and still run this site. Try to clear the red trust and gain green trust if you can. I do not want to see this site going down for this misunderstanding here

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July 22, 2017, 04:00:47 PM
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New sites piping every were. I am just interested in his trust score, it doesn't look good. That's just my point.

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July 22, 2017, 05:31:54 PM
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I think duckdice should update the bonus system. it can be like this - actual balance and bonus balance, players will first have to wager/lose all their actual balance to activate bonus balance and when they 100% complete wagering requirement it'll become actual balance(just like fortunejack). what do you guys think?

Agree with this, most casino did this, players will always have to wager their actual balance first. I think Duckdice already using this methods but it is not clearly stated in their Terms and Conditions, I've notice that once we claimed the bonus, after a few lose (small lose) if we cancel the bonus, we will get back our actual balance with some deduction (those amount is actually what we lose), Duckdice should just take this as the consideration and change their terms and conditions, players will first wager their balance before the bonus balance is unlock.
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July 22, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
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Without any proofs, your words are useless.
I've only seen innovations from DuckDice on one very boring market.
Read a few pages back, check the scam accusation or their feedback.

Scam accusations are regarding deposit bonus, the rules may be harsh but the issue is with the user who didn't read a warning messages and canceled his bonus.
How can you actually call it scam, we have our Bonuses already for about 9 months and we have MANY users winning big with our bonus and we always paying out. It's almost a loan you just need to follow the rules and be a bit attentive, how can you even call it a scam? Bonuses are not a core feature, if you don't want to take them, you don't have to. And we have a whole mod team who is great in unlocking bonuses, they would be more than happy to explain in details how it works and even give some hints.

Hey duckdice, I really have a goos time with your site last time and I never have this problem because I never claimed aboit this bonuses. But you really should change your ToS in order to remove those red trust, that is really annoying when new member saw that you have red trust and still run this site. Try to clear the red trust and gain green trust if you can. I do not want to see this site going down for this misunderstanding here

Changing the ToS of the deposit wont clear the negative trust because it is happened already and duckdice has decided their own opinion about the latest problem and would not change their mind about it IMO.
They also decided to stop the deposit bonus and would make a new one IIRC. So their neg trust will always there if they do not solve the latest problem as what suggested by some members.

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July 24, 2017, 08:42:29 AM
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how people can say about this site as scam, this site is one of the most trusted sites i ever know, never have problems with bonus or deposits or withdrawals, so if some one don´t want to play with a bonus just dont claim it and it´s done, why allways make a problem for little things..

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July 24, 2017, 09:13:08 AM
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Our bonus policy was like this from the very beginning – already for about 8 months and no one had a cancellation problem before.




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Our bonus policy was like this from the very beginning – already for about 8 months and no one had a cancellation problem before.





refund my money back you scammer
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July 24, 2017, 10:42:58 AM
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Our bonus policy was like this from the very beginning – already for about 8 months and no one had a cancellation problem before.





But as a few have mentioned, it doesn't mean nothing is wrong. Take a few advises from the community. It wouldn't hurt.

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July 24, 2017, 10:51:57 AM
 #1210

Our bonus policy was like this from the very beginning – already for about 8 months and no one had a cancellation problem before.





But as a few have mentioned, it doesn't mean nothing is wrong. Take a few advises from the community. It wouldn't hurt.

Yeap, it will be better if they follow the advises from the trusted members here. It may remove the red tag on his account and of course it will be good for their future. Red tag will affect their future, even though only small effect but it may affect their traffic.
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July 24, 2017, 02:35:02 PM
 #1211

how people can say about this site as scam, this site is one of the most trusted sites i ever know, never have problems with bonus or deposits or withdrawals, so if some one don´t want to play with a bonus just dont claim it and it´s done, why allways make a problem for little things..

cheers!!

You can't read.



Our bonus policy was like this from the very beginning – already for about 8 months and no one had a cancellation problem before.

That's a ridiculous line of thinking. You can't just shrug off the first incident like it means nothing. That's like justifying a ponzi site when the first person doesn't receive their deposit. "They've been paying out for years and this is the first time something happened!"

No.

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July 24, 2017, 07:53:31 PM
 #1212

Our bonus policy was like this from the very beginning – already for about 8 months and no one had a cancellation problem before.

My is bigger and fatter:
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Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
You don't have right to take balance from anyone who cancel bonus.
It's clearly stated in YOUR bonus rules.
Why don't you return stolen money?




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July 25, 2017, 09:24:36 AM
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Okay, guys, we have always been the dice site that actually listens to its members and despite what we think in this situation we decided to make as our community suggests:

1. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy.
2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

So we believe now this issue has been resolved.


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July 25, 2017, 04:02:34 PM
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There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

This is your PM to me:

If he would just agree to make one more deposit (we actually never asked to deposit 5btc, anything above 0.01btc is eligible) we would've just add his amount as a bonus as a "consolation".

Then why didn't you just send 2 BTC to his deposit address?

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July 25, 2017, 04:26:36 PM
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please explain i want to know sir.the telegram duckdice bot only gives faucet 250 sats,why not up to 2000 sats? often I play in telegram you have a bot very glad sir

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July 25, 2017, 04:41:04 PM
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Okay, guys, we have always been the dice site that actually listens to its members and despite what we think in this situation we decided to make as our community suggests:

1. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy.
2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

So we believe now this issue has been resolved.



think you should contact the people who gave your account negative trust and ask them to remove it
update the FAQ and the site's info about the promotion,too
by the way,I managed to unlock the bonus,it was just a test 0.01 I think,but took a lot of time and effort
and I was very close to cancelling it,completely sure that I would get my deposit back and that it would remove just the bonus+the winnings
 

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July 25, 2017, 07:51:25 PM
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think you should contact the people who gave your account negative trust and ask them to remove it
update the FAQ and the site's info about the promotion,too
by the way,I managed to unlock the bonus,it was just a test 0.01 I think,but took a lot of time and effort
and I was very close to cancelling it,completely sure that I would get my deposit back and that it would remove just the bonus+the winnings
 

It took a lot of time and effort to unlock the bonus, but at least it is possible to unlock it with reasonable requirement. It is challenging and fun, I see nothing wrong with their bonus terms as I was able to cancelled the bonus and took back my balance with some deduction of my balance which I lose while playing the game. Which means their bonus algorithm was wagering the player balance first before the bonus, most casino did the same. Except the terms was was not clear enough and thus confuse some of the players.
  
Maybe they can simply change their terms to these, to avoid any problems in the future.

1. The bonus will be locked at the beginning.
2. Bonus will be unlocked for player when player balance has lose their own balance.
(So that the player can continue to complete the wagering requirement using the bonus.)
3. When a bonus is active, withdrawal will be disabled.
3. Bonus can be cancelled at anytime, thus player will be able to withdraw their own balance at anytime. But any winning will be forfeited.
(Some player may wish to withdraw their balance instead of being force to complete the requirement, thus a cancel function is require for them)

Note* Only bonus balance is being locked here, players are using their real balance to place the bet, thus losing bet will result in the deduction of their real balance. Since it is a bonus, any winning (if there is any) should be forfeited, otherwise it is not fair to those who didn't claim the bonus OR maybe all players will claim the bonus.

Example: Player A claimed the bonus, win and get profits, he/she decided to cancel the bonus and withdraw the winning. Player B who didn't claim the bonus, win and get profits, withdraw. Both of them win and get profits, but what if we say if Player A manage to complete the wagering requirement? Player A will get his winning + bonus, but Player B will only get his winning. In the case of Losing, both player lose the same. Therefore, winning should be forfeited when a bonus is claimed / active.

Some player might say it is unfair since losing will resulting in deduction of balance, but winning will be forfeited, it is your decision to claim the bonus, bonus is not a free money, if you don't want to take the challenge (wagering requirement), you shouldn't claim the bonus.

With these terms, player will always need to wager with their own balance first before unlocking any bonus balance, when player decided to cancel the bonus, they will left only with their own balance minus any lose amount, thus avoiding any loop happen such as deposit, claim bonus, lose the bonus, withdraw and deposit again and again.
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July 25, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
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You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount.
If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your whole balance"?

Why would anyone agree to cancel his whole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen!
Got you here, because even after for a while it is still stated Cancel Bonus and not Cancel whole Balance!

Correct because if you cancel the bonus after two rolls you won't lose your whole balance. Just a small amount.
Are you not able to understand that it is the criminal offense of fraud to ask me to cancel my 2 BTC bonus and then cancel my whole balance of 7 BTC?


The locked balance is getting bigger while rolling.
So the more I play, the more rake I pay to your house, the more money you will steal from my balance? Cheesy


So get your stats right first before starting such sad site  Cheesy
While Game Protect is indeed a sad site for shady criminals like you, I have no idea what is wrong with my stats?

If you put "duckdice.io scam" into google = first page and second entry = good stats  Smiley


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313.msg20368185#msg20368185

1. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy.

2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

So we believe now this issue has been resolved.
Wrong belief!

He clicked the |Cancel Bonus| button and never agreed to cancel his whole balance and therefore your move is juridical not valid and you have to restore his account like it was prior to clicking your fake |Cancel Bonus| button.

If you can not do this technically, then this is your fault and you have to give him 8.15 BTC or at least his 2 BTC deposit and his 5 BTC winnings.

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Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
1) According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely based on his 2 BTC deposit.

2) 55x wagering of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account balance will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!

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July 26, 2017, 08:49:43 AM
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this issue still isn't solved? oh boy...
i really liked duck dice was a cool site. Sad

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July 26, 2017, 09:59:09 AM
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please explain i want to know sir.the telegram duckdice bot only gives faucet 250 sats,why not up to 2000 sats? often I play in telegram you have a bot very glad sir

please read https://duckdice.io/faq#faucetamount

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