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Author Topic: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 Faucet 🎲 Rainbot 🎲 Jackpot 🎲 Wagering Contest 🎲 1%Edge 🎲  (Read 96206 times)
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July 30, 2017, 06:26:37 AM
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Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely generated by his 2 BTC deposit.

55x wagering requirement of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC to wager. Minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!

Nope, I do not think that they really need to pay him 7 btc, because he started with 2 btc, no matter they win or lose the only way to get this fair is to give him back what balance he start deposit. This is like he resetting their amount back to the start, so everything will be no affect on it anymore, this is seems fairly to him. I think duckdice red tagged should clear right now
It does not play any role what he had at the start or what he did 1 year ago! Relevant is only the point when they misleaded him to click the |Cancel Bonus| button.

At this point his balance was worth 7 BTC + 1.15 BTC bonus after wagering the remaining 85 BTC to clear the 2 BTC bonus = 8.15 BTC.

No one would cancel his whole account balance!

1) If he do no want his account balance, he would simply leave

2) If he continues to play, nothing worse than his account balance = zero can happen

Now tell me what is the reason to cancel your whole account balance instead of proceeding with 1) or 2)?

He did not complete the wagering requirement, we can't simply say statistically while involve in gambling. He may win or lose the entire balance before completing the requirement.
1) You can always calculate the EV and this is juridical fully valid. If a running online poker tournament is cancelled due to technical issues, they also calculate the expected value of your chips. It would be not only nonsense but also illegal to say players did not finish the tournament and may win or lose the entire balance and therefore their balance is now zero!

2) During the bonus canceling process the system indeed states in text form that the Locked Balance amount will be substructed from your balance, but as the buttons state large and bold |BONUS| and |Cancel Bonus| no one is able to understand it and this is (intentional) misleading and therefore juridical not valid!

3) No one would or wants to cancel his whole balance! The sense of the bonus canceling is that I want to get rid of the bonus and the wagering requirements.

4) At the time when the victim was misleaded to cancel his whole balance, the expected value of his balance after clearing the bonus is 8.15 BTC and this is the amount duckdice has to give him or restore his account how it was prior to click |Cancel Bonus|.

Thought you have something new to add so I unignored you. Congrats making it back to my Ignore list.

Funny how you try to squeeze them for more like a collections agent trying to reach a quota. :p


just a little more to go. . .
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July 30, 2017, 06:41:43 AM
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Thought you have something new to add so I unignored you. Congrats making it back to my Ignore list.
Ignoring the truth definetely speaks for your shadiness and people should avoid your signature!


Funny how you try to squeeze them for more like a collections agent trying to reach a quota. :p
Based on laws they owe him 8.15 BTC, simple.

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July 30, 2017, 06:53:06 AM
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Thought you have something new to add so I unignored you. Congrats making it back to my Ignore list-
Ignoring the truth definetely speaks for your shadiness and people should avoid your signature!
Disagreeing with you doesn't make a person shady per se.
Also, looking at your signature, I'd say the same is true about that one.


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July 30, 2017, 07:20:56 AM
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Thought you have something new to add so I unignored you. Congrats making it back to my Ignore list-
Ignoring the truth definetely speaks for your shadiness and people should avoid your signature!
Disagreeing with you doesn't make a person shady per se.
Also, looking at your signature, I'd say the same is true about that one.
I am not the truth, not the laws and not Ozafejyw782's rights, so he can not disagree with me!

Calling out the duckdice.io scam is shady? Like the victim is the terrorist?

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July 30, 2017, 08:49:53 AM
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Deposit bonuses are closed for a period of reworking them, we are also preparing for a possibility of hard fork, so until hard fork or soft fork occur we will not launch new bonuses.
Refund has been made. And once again, this is a first complaint of such matter in over 8 months[/size].[/b]

good news, support the fork is very professional way to "love" customers ^_^
good job! and go foward!
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July 30, 2017, 10:41:55 AM
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Thought you have something new to add so I unignored you. Congrats making it back to my Ignore list-
Ignoring the truth definetely speaks for your shadiness and people should avoid your signature!
Disagreeing with you doesn't make a person shady per se.
Also, looking at your signature, I'd say the same is true about that one.
I am not the truth, not the laws and not Ozafejyw782's rights, so he can not disagree with me!

Calling out the duckdice.io scam is shady? Like the victim is the terrorist?

Sadly, I have little evidence to back this up as I was not around when you apparently posted something along the lines of "I'd like to suggest game-protect as the charity for this donation", which I guess refers to the 2 BTC DuckDice were going to send to charity before they eventually caved and sent it to the OP instead, and what you are going on about in your signature. That sounds like you were seeking payment to keep quiet. But, as I have no evidence, I'll leave that at that...



This is as "resolved" as its going to get, the OP is happy he got his deposit back, DuckDice have a tag warning others of what happened, and everyone is now moving on. What is the point of continuing this? I don't have much time for DuckDice either, but I do know when to call it a day.

What exactly are you trying to achieve here, game-protect?

My only payment address: 1ZephertJThxkHih7XcaUHBkMSnvkTt5u
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July 30, 2017, 08:59:15 PM
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What exactly are you trying to achieve here, game-protect?

Trying to prey on every site that had made a mistake.

 I assume he is trying to catch as much attention as he can to get duckdice pay him too, for meddling perhaps and backing up the complain.



You've got Z's attention and Lutpin's , congrats! LoL


just a little more to go. . .
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Sadly, I have little evidence to back this up as I was not around when you apparently posted something along the lines of "I'd like to suggest game-protect as the charity for this donation", which I guess refers to the 2 BTC DuckDice were going to send to charity before they eventually caved and sent it to the OP instead, and what you are going on about in your signature. That sounds like you were seeking payment to keep quiet. But, as I have no evidence, I'll leave that at that...
Duckdice publicly announced that a part of their business model is to donate player deposits to charity and I have all the rights to apply for such a donation.


This is as "resolved" as its going to get, the OP is happy he got his deposit back, DuckDice have a tag warning others of what happened, and everyone is now moving on. What is the point of continuing this? I don't have much time for DuckDice either, but I do know when to call it a day.
They owe Ozafejyw782 8.15 BTC based on applicable civil and criminal laws and the case is not resolved as long as they owe him the remaining 6.15 BTC.


What exactly are you trying to achieve here, game-protect?
Online gaming consumer protection.

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July 31, 2017, 09:15:27 AM
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Looks like many of you are having fun with discussing our bonuses (which are no longer available anyway) but let's talk about ab important thing, and exactly the fork.
So far our position is to disable BTC deposit and withdrawal 10 hours prior to 1st of August – this is to avoid any transaction to get lost.
And in case of hard fork DuckDice planning to support both current and common bitcoin.

Any suggestions while we still have some time left?

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July 31, 2017, 11:05:16 AM
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Sadly, I have little evidence to back this up as I was not around when you apparently posted something along the lines of "I'd like to suggest game-protect as the charity for this donation", which I guess refers to the 2 BTC DuckDice were going to send to charity before they eventually caved and sent it to the OP instead, and what you are going on about in your signature. That sounds like you were seeking payment to keep quiet. But, as I have no evidence, I'll leave that at that...
Duckdice publicly announced that a part of their business model is to donate player deposits to charity and I have all the rights to apply for such a donation.
Only you're not doing any charitable work.
It's one thing to try fighting for what you believe is right. It's another thing doing it in order to profit from the situation.
Your signature implies you want that 2BTC "donation" to shut up and remove the signature/scam accusation on your site.


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July 31, 2017, 12:42:08 PM
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Sadly, I have little evidence to back this up as I was not around when you apparently posted something along the lines of "I'd like to suggest game-protect as the charity for this donation", which I guess refers to the 2 BTC DuckDice were going to send to charity before they eventually caved and sent it to the OP instead, and what you are going on about in your signature. That sounds like you were seeking payment to keep quiet. But, as I have no evidence, I'll leave that at that...
Duckdice publicly announced that a part of their business model is to donate player deposits to charity and I have all the rights to apply for such a donation.
Only you're not doing any charitable work.
It's one thing to try fighting for what you believe is right. It's another thing doing it in order to profit from the situation.
Your signature implies you want that 2BTC "donation" to shut up and remove the signature/scam accusation on your site.


HE ALREADY GOT HIS 2 BTC – TOTAL AMOUNT OF A DEPOSIT – BACK!
AND WE ARE REWORKING BONUSES ALGORITHM TO FIT TO COMMUNITY REQUIREMENTS.



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[size=12pt]IMPORTANT MESSAGE:

In about 2 hours – 16:00 UTC precisely DuckDice will temporarily disable all BTC deposits and withdrawals!
All this because of Bitcoin Fork situation.
Most likely there won't be a split of a blockchain tomorrow but there is a possibility of temporarily split because of segwit time bomb and in order to eliminate possibility of loosing any transactions we have to disable deposits/withdrawals.
In case of a blockchain split DuckDice plan to support both.
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July 31, 2017, 12:51:23 PM
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Most likely there won't be a split of a blockchain tomorrow but there is a possibility of temporarily split because of segwit time bomb and in order to eliminate possibility of loosing any transactions we have to disable deposits/withdrawals.
So you don't expect BCC/BCH to go through with their UAHF efforts?
An UASF/BIP148 split seems very unlikely indeed (segwit "time bomb" isn't a reason for that, at least not a direct one).
But at this point, everyone should expect and be ready for a BCC/BCH split.

In case of a blockchain split DuckDice plan to support both.
Meaning users with an active balance at your side will receive the same amount of BCC/BCH
and you will allow gambling with those coins, aswell as deposits/withdrawals on the BCC/BCH chain?


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July 31, 2017, 01:06:27 PM
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This is as "resolved" as its going to get, the OP is happy he got his deposit back, DuckDice have a tag warning others of what happened, and everyone is now moving on. What is the point of continuing this? I don't have much time for DuckDice either, but I do know when to call it a day.
They owe Ozafejyw782 8.15 BTC based on applicable civil and criminal laws and the case is not resolved as long as they owe him the remaining 6.15 BTC.

i think they already give them their starting balance so this has nothing more to do with their payout. Just because Ozafejyw782 win and restart their balance, he will get the exact same amount that he won. This thing is not possible to do for every gambling site here. You should know their regulation here. Luckily that they already paid the 2 btc and everything is fine now, so may be you should stop posting some FUD anymore

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July 31, 2017, 02:01:10 PM
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Most likely there won't be a split of a blockchain tomorrow but there is a possibility of temporarily split because of segwit time bomb and in order to eliminate possibility of loosing any transactions we have to disable deposits/withdrawals.
So you don't expect BCC/BCH to go through with their UAHF efforts?
An UASF/BIP148 split seems very unlikely indeed (segwit "time bomb" isn't a reason for that, at least not a direct one).
But at this point, everyone should expect and be ready for a BCC/BCH split.

In case of a blockchain split DuckDice plan to support both.
Meaning users with an active balance at your side will receive the same amount of BCC/BCH
and you will allow gambling with those coins, aswell as deposits/withdrawals on the BCC/BCH chain?

It is indeed possible solution. We will post every update here.

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July 31, 2017, 04:04:52 PM
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Most likely there won't be a split of a blockchain tomorrow but there is a possibility of temporarily split because of segwit time bomb and in order to eliminate possibility of loosing any transactions we have to disable deposits/withdrawals.
So you don't expect BCC/BCH to go through with their UAHF efforts?
An UASF/BIP148 split seems very unlikely indeed (segwit "time bomb" isn't a reason for that, at least not a direct one).
But at this point, everyone should expect and be ready for a BCC/BCH split.

In case of a blockchain split DuckDice plan to support both.
Meaning users with an active balance at your side will receive the same amount of BCC/BCH
and you will allow gambling with those coins, aswell as deposits/withdrawals on the BCC/BCH chain?

It is indeed possible solution. We will post every update here.

did you updated your website?
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July 31, 2017, 06:24:09 PM
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Sadly, I have little evidence to back this up as I was not around when you apparently posted something along the lines of "I'd like to suggest game-protect as the charity for this donation", which I guess refers to the 2 BTC DuckDice were going to send to charity before they eventually caved and sent it to the OP instead, and what you are going on about in your signature. That sounds like you were seeking payment to keep quiet. But, as I have no evidence, I'll leave that at that...
Duckdice publicly announced that a part of their business model is to donate player deposits to charity and I have all the rights to apply for such a donation.


This is as "resolved" as its going to get, the OP is happy he got his deposit back, DuckDice have a tag warning others of what happened, and everyone is now moving on. What is the point of continuing this? I don't have much time for DuckDice either, but I do know when to call it a day.
They owe Ozafejyw782 8.15 BTC based on applicable civil and criminal laws and the case is not resolved as long as they owe him the remaining 6.15 BTC.


What exactly are you trying to achieve here, game-protect?
Online gaming consumer protection.
Where is that 8.15 btc came from.Did you really follow or read the whole story or you only want attention or you want that 2btc to be in your account,well the site already return it to Ozafejyw782 and this is fair for both parties.Who knows what will happen if that player to continue to play?
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July 31, 2017, 08:02:34 PM
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Sadly, I have little evidence to back this up as I was not around when you apparently posted something along the lines of "I'd like to suggest game-protect as the charity for this donation", which I guess refers to the 2 BTC DuckDice were going to send to charity before they eventually caved and sent it to the OP instead, and what you are going on about in your signature. That sounds like you were seeking payment to keep quiet. But, as I have no evidence, I'll leave that at that...
Duckdice publicly announced that a part of their business model is to donate player deposits to charity and I have all the rights to apply for such a donation.


This is as "resolved" as its going to get, the OP is happy he got his deposit back, DuckDice have a tag warning others of what happened, and everyone is now moving on. What is the point of continuing this? I don't have much time for DuckDice either, but I do know when to call it a day.
They owe Ozafejyw782 8.15 BTC based on applicable civil and criminal laws and the case is not resolved as long as they owe him the remaining 6.15 BTC.


What exactly are you trying to achieve here, game-protect?
Online gaming consumer protection.
Where is that 8.15 btc came from.Did you really follow or read the whole story or you only want attention or you want that 2btc to be in your account,well the site already return it to Ozafejyw782 and this is fair for both parties.Who knows what will happen if that player to continue to play?
Duckdice.io scams noone!!!!

Exactly, we should ignore the nonsense comments from Game-protect. The case has been resolved as the player already get back his deposit, which is fair to both parties.

[size=12pt]IMPORTANT MESSAGE:

In about 2 hours – 16:00 UTC precisely DuckDice will temporarily disable all BTC deposits and withdrawals!
All this because of Bitcoin Fork situation.
Most likely there won't be a split of a blockchain tomorrow but there is a possibility of temporarily split because of segwit time bomb and in order to eliminate possibility of loosing any transactions we have to disable deposits/withdrawals.
In case of a blockchain split DuckDice plan to support both.
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Good move, everyone should prepare for this.
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July 31, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
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What exactly are you trying to achieve here, game-protect?
Online gaming consumer protection.

Taking advantage of situations like this is not online-gaming protection. Besides, your service is not of goodwill and this type of harassment should end. If you really wanted to help the community(which I doubt), instead of doing this kind of harassment, why don't you offer solutions instead of merely bickering with those who have something to say.


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July 31, 2017, 09:42:50 PM
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Well I have tried this site today for the first time and it was good. So not that many users online but it's not quiet in the chat.

Rolls are fast and I like 'Bingo-Style' of the numbers. The chat also got some nice features and i see a nice way to rain. When the profit comes, i will try that one
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