Agreed. Gleb has done a great job. Unfortunately, some people simply refuse to learn and they get scammed over and over again. Plus there’s always newbies.
Bitcoin scams exposing websites also help. And now that we have a website (badbitcoin.com) which lists the latest bitcoin scams; we need a list or a website which lists all scam promoting websites such as Viral-alert.com and bitcoincloudmining.org.
Firstly, it's
http://www.badbitcoin.org/ (not .com).
Secondly, how the fuck is it that I being in this space for over five years now haven't known about this site (this site being around long before I started fucking things in the Arizona desert - see my last post if you're up to speed)?
Thirdly, in re bold above, such could easily be incorporated on Badbitcoin along with an ongoing list of advertisers who place ads on such nefarious sites with a callout to boycott their fuckin' entities since we don't like giving moneys to entities who turn around and give it nefarious entities so to finance their operations of ripping off others in this space.
And lastly, why the fuck isn't Chantha Owen Lueung's Crypto-city and Leroy Fodor's StakeMiners not on the list?
Sorry, my bad again. Thanks for the correction.
So the site has been around for 5 years? Its news to me too.
I think badbitcoin relies on the bitcoin community reports for listing bitcoin scams. Its likely, no one in the community has reported the above 2 sites yet.
Hello, I'll try to fill in an important gap of info on the site badbitcoin.org, the operator, and why we don't care to utilize such a site or interact with "Vik/BB". It will fill in also what's going on with this - Hashing24 - scam site.
Short answer: The operator of Badbitcoin has no ability to do
critical thinking and often has
conflicting perceptions because they bought services from said fraudulent site(s). Largest example: GawMiners -
http://www.badbitcoin.org/gaw.htm (direct rebuttal at the time). If you want the current news for the
federal investigation on GAW/Garza the thread is in my signature.
Its long and complicated and along the way Vik (BB operator) tried to shill for multiple sites.
Smaller examples of BB's lack of intelligence or evaluation is: scrypt.cc (alt coins) and LTCgear (alt coins scammer that keeps fading in and out of internet interaction).
When confronted about these sites and their evaluation(s) of them the litany of excuses, poor arguments, and child-like behavior of running from the conversation made it clear the operator had a clear bias with certain sites. If they weren't outright paid to be a shill, then it was, and still is obvious that the site picks out the lowest hanging fruit and gives the users reading it a
false-sense of security.
The sites a novel concept but shouldn't ever replace your ability of critical thinking in evaluating box sites that try to sell you a service or commit to fraud in grey areas.Most people in the know, now refer to BadBitcoin and the BadBitcoinClown.
Hashing24 looks like a HYIP with some weak PR...
Jeeze, Gleb found some juicy bits.
I can confirm that I have contacted Bitfury support a few days ago and received the following answer :
It's probably best to stop using both services at this point.
This is just another shit show just like Genesis Mining, but a really poor version with BitFury.
Dear Gleb Gamov, thank you for passionate investigation.
You are trying too hard and in fact all your comments have no sense.
You find some irrelevant information on the web and trying to turn it around.
But in reality it has nothing to do with the services we provide.
In fact why would anyone listen to you if your reputation is in question?
https://bitcointalk4.com/reputation/gleb-gamow-and-his-inappropriate-hypocritical-and-illegal-attacks/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.0 So i repeat all our contracts are real and anyone can request Bitfury this information, they will confirm. Also when your ordering withdrawal of your newly mined bitcoins you will receive email with transaction details at
https://blockchain.info/. There you can check origin of your bitcoins. You will see that it is "Newly Generated Coins" from BitFury.
We are not scam and never will be. You can try to put out any information, but its all just talking and your imagination.
If it wasn't Gleb it would be Suchmoon, myself, or others to come point how bad your ploy is.
Cryptodoubler and HYIP sites are really easy to see since 2012. Even if your contracts were real they don't benefit the "customer".
You also tried a common strawman argument on Gleb with links (first link no longer resolves either) from a
KNOWN AND CONFIRMED FRAUDSTER FROM MULTIPLE FORUMS you simpleton.
Which has already been tried by multiple people.
If you read the accusations to completion (not on Leroy's thread on purpose) you would of known that Gleb resolved the claims here and on the other forums.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/phinnaeus-gage-aka-bruno-kucinskas-where-are-you.334569/I hope you come back to dig your grave faster.Also bring a better script.
Hmmmmm why doesn't Bitfury create a platform themselves and sell the same service..?Risk.
Bitfury can allow a partner or affiliate buy or rent the hardware miners they make.
Then said affiliate, in this case Hashing24 (Crazy Ivan), can part it out at as not only a
premium price.
But also promise the most ridiculous contracts under the guise of it being legit and connected to a pool.
Bitfury/Hashing24 (more to come?) is just catching up to Genesis Mining and Bitmain.
The first cloudmining scams had problems convincing people that they were legit because they held no mining pool or address.
The hip new way, the HYPE way (heh-heh), is to do this convoluted bullshit that naturally takes a lot of time for the false terms and math to be
experienced.
The main distributors/manufacturers - GM, Bitmain, Bitfury, and so on take on no risk of exposure if said affiliate lies or misleads users. It all depends if you have money to pursue them.
In the terms you can see they will eventually bleed you out if Bitcoins price is even profitable.
https://hashing24.com/terms2.6. Service Fee. The fee that you pay for the Mining Contract, as described on the website.
2.7. Maintenance fees. A fee that we may charge you daily from your Customer Portion to cover running costs of Mining Hardware, as described on the website. Fee will be converted to the number of Bitcoins based on the previous day's Bitcoin closing price in US$ in the Bitcoin Price Index published on CoinDesk.com. Hashing24 can change the maintenance fee any time with 7 days' notice.
WOW.
Such bad terms.
Much shell game.
Ok, here is a new question then. If Hashing24 are scammers (I'm BTW in no way defending them in ANY WAY!), why are cryptocurrency miner pools like Minergate using and linking directly to them on their site?
Does this mean that Minergate and other pools referring to them scammers as well?
Gleb's already pointing out Joe's shadows and even named them with links.
Minergate built the dashboard for the GUI so people could buy/sell/trade(?) Hashing24's mining hardware bought/rented from Bitfury.
That might or might not be the extent of the involvement.
It looks like a game with few winners.
Not all the rules and terms are shared with us.
