[IoP] Fermat presents the Internet of People App Token

[hnxdhg]

i will support too.....  and join camp when i become member

[manasd]

Is someone mining FERMAT?

[Luis-Fernando-Molina]

Just curious will the mining cap effect the network hashrate in a negative way, as people reach the cap just shut off miners?

Yes, it does affect the hashrate since miners stop mining once they reach the mining cap, but at this stage that doesn't have any negative impact. You need huge hashrate to secure the network when anyone is allowed to mine, in order to prevent a huge hashrate holder to highjack your blockchain and fork it as will. IoP in its current stage is not open for anyone to mine, so it doesn't rely on huge hashrate to keep the network secure. As time goes on and the chapter network is fully built, mining will be opened to anyone. But even anonymous miners wont be able to attack the network with hashrate at that stage either, since there will be by that time a PoS / PoW hybrid which will prevent a single entity to mine two blocks in a row, meaning that they can never mine outside and later produce a fort of several blocks.

In short, hashrate is only important in pure PoW blockchains. When other mechanisms are added they lose relevance, in some cases like ours, a lot.

You can learn more about the chapter network we are building here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BOB3Xc5vHNKBNZJeosXGi0iNCxiD6rbFTvbF1uXfv10/edit#

And about our ideas of an hybrid PoS / PoW here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fwXOCfX0zfJv-MloeVAsVjS_JEpfdIXHUObMBijLrJ8/edit#

[Luis-Fernando-Molina]

I have a complaint, concerning the head from Russia. I ask to help the third day me with registration of a mining, but he ignores my messages.

Someone can help me with it? I cannot understand how to obtain the license?

so only those people who hold the purse to sell it but I think it would be better to have the openness that everyone can participate in mining

Hi, to obtain the license follow the steps listed here:

https://medium.com/@luisfernandomolina/iop-mining-7b1c1bf7febd#.49n56iw76

We are working towards decentralizing the mining licenses scheme. If you are interested in learn what we are going to build you can read here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BOB3Xc5vHNKBNZJeosXGi0iNCxiD6rbFTvbF1uXfv10/edit?usp=sharing

Cheers!

[mrgreen88]

I have a complaint, concerning the head from Russia. I ask to help the third day me with registration of a mining, but he ignores my messages.

Someone can help me with it? I cannot understand how to obtain the license?

if it wouldn't be bothering for U to point me out where and when did U ask for my help? I've checked all my messages here,on  slack, google spreadsheet, google email, vk com, and twitter. Also, I have checked all ur posted messages here for 1 month (which I consider as a kinda hateful ones).  so, WHERE  and  WHEN did U asked 4 my help?

[grajson]

@ije07 Please put the link into the spreadsheet by adding comment in correct place  under your country chapter and the IoP address next to it.

[btvGainer]

Hello,I haven't received my translation bounty yet.I have sent you my IoP address 2 days back.
I put a lots of efforts and time to translate as I dont do Google translation.
I need good amount of time to translate whitepaper as it is very length document.
Timely payment will make me start working on it early

[shinratensei_]

!Appeal to all IoP holders a lot has happened since IoP App Token got released, we have 35+ Chapters that joined our venture from all over the world. 50+ Miners, 10+ translations of OP, 10+ reposts of OP to crypto related boards outside bitcointalk and the most fairest mining systems ever invented. Some of you joined just to reserve mining spots, some of you joined after seeing potential but still not clear what! you know, that feeling when something tells you this could be it . Its understandable in this early stage that a lot of things are unclear and confusing but one thing i can assure you of is that IoP is more than just mining. your precious IoP that you earn today are meant to be Hold for upcoming evolution of this project, keep in mind that your precious IoP will enable you to vote on our Self-Governing system where you and me decide who will get payed by Blockchain. For making a Proposal you will need to deposit 1000 IoP and if majority Votes on your Proposal you get payed by Blockchain.

If you are lucky now to mine then you should be aware that when our POW gets upgraded to newly invented POW/POS hybrid, then you will need those precious IoP to continue mining/minting.

My Appeal on all you lucky IoP holders, don't let them go they are precious.

Good early start seems like be a good project, but is there a white paper or something can explain me about fermat project with more detailed?
Your distribution techniques were being different and quite succeeded.

I wait for your reply.

[trader19]

Hello,I haven't received my translation bounty yet.I have sent you my IoP address 2 days back.
I put a lots of efforts and time to translate as I dont do Google translation.
I need good amount of time to translate whitepaper as it is very length document.
Timely payment will make me start working on it early

hi, 5 IoP was sent yesterday. Check you address again..
http://explorer.fermat.community/tx/7482e6e794eb59495d940a523f44de231b5d6c9aa62d503289068804852b513b

[Tbone123]

I see banners for many other countries but not USA on GitHub. Will this be added soon? I would like my twitter and facebook to look as nice.
Thanks

[marmai]

I see banners for many other countries but not USA on GitHub. Will this be added soon? I would like my twitter and facebook to look as nice.
Thanks

Many united States are a big chapter you like to rock ;-)

You can claim a Chapter in your state! We are putting all USA into the github repo. Once you sign up with a state chapter you can leave a comment in the mining / chapter sheet and we will make you one .-)

[btvGainer]

Hello,I haven't received my translation bounty yet.I have sent you my IoP address 2 days back.
I put a lots of efforts and time to translate as I dont do Google translation.
I need good amount of time to translate whitepaper as it is very length document.
Timely payment will make me start working on it early

hi, 5 IoP was sent yesterday. Check you address again..
http://explorer.fermat.community/tx/7482e6e794eb59495d940a523f44de231b5d6c9aa62d503289068804852b513b

Thanks I got it Will now work on whitepaper translation

[trader19]

!Info about Mining we are now at "window": 7, so what's new? difficulty doubled since last window and mining cap pro Licence went down to 72 IoP, also what almost doubled is that now there are currently 82 IoP addresses whitelisted for mining thats amazing more ppl are Joining every day. Like i already said It must be one of the most decentralized and Fairest mining system i ever saw, as you can see in our Spreadsheet we now have 40 Chapters from all over the world and everything is traceable on that sheet. It also Should be possible in spirit of Transparency to compare mining addresses to the ones in Spreadsheet and understand what i mean when i say decentralized and fair. Although Fermat Project has been worked on for past 2 years, we are still in very early stage of Fermat's IoP App Token and distribution.. You all are welcome to Join us and get your mining Licence now  

*one more thing: as you can see in list of mining addresses some of you guys are mining full power leaving others behind. that's all fine but very soon you will reach mining cap and be left waiting for new window to start to be able to mine again. Now the thing is not only you will be wasting hash power soon but you will make it for others more difficult to mine since difficulty will rise again,also you are risking on getting your Licence blocked automatically from the network and we dont know what happens on new window. so to keep diff in current levels or even low it down a bit i would like to give you all a hint. . Ideal mining Setup pro Licence is 4cpu threads not more not less. It's fair for newcomers too, so let us keep the Fermat Spirit alive, and enjoy Mining!! 


Latest Stats

Code:

root@:~# IoP-cli dumpminerstats
{
 "currentheight": 12777,
  "minercapenabled": true,
  "currentavgblocksperminer": 24,
  "currentfactor": 3,
  "currentwhitelisted": 82,
  "currentcap": 72,

Code:

   
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    "blockend": 14112,
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[Divorcion]

Interesting concept but it's still not really clear,  how you would secure the network with only one miner per country as example?

It is not one miner per country. This is just the current phase. Right now we are building this chapter network as the backbone of the mining network. Once we have a highly distributed backbone with engaged people, the mining will be open to anyone to participate anonymously. In that way bad actors will be outnumbered by chapter miners. I understand it is difficult to understand if you don't know the full plan.

To learn more about this plan I recommend you to read this:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BOB3Xc5vHNKBNZJeosXGi0iNCxiD6rbFTvbF1uXfv10/edit#heading=h.ri2zjtfdb7g2

Yes true it confuses me a bit, seems different from other approaches.
Thanks i will have a look on these documents.

[mrgreen88]

!Info about Mining we are now at "window": 7, so what's new? difficulty doubled since last window and mining cap pro Licence went down to 72 IoP, also what almost doubled is that now there are currently 82 IoP addresses whitelisted for mining thats amazing more ppl are Joining every day. Like i already said It must be one of the most decentralized and Fairest mining system i ever saw, as you can see in our Spreadsheet we now have 40 Chapters from all over the world and everything is traceable on that sheet. It also Should be possible in spirit of Transparency to compare mining addresses to the ones in Spreadsheet and understand what i mean when i say decentralized and fair. Although Fermat Project has been worked on for past 2 years, we are still in very early stage of Fermat's IoP App Token and distribution.. You all are welcome to Join us and get your mining Licence now  

*one more thing: as you can see in list of mining addresses some of you guys are mining full power leaving others behind. that's all fine but very soon you will reach mining cap and be left waiting for new window to start to be able to mine again. Now the thing is not only you will be wasting hash power soon but you will make it for others more difficult to mine since difficulty will rise again,also you are risking on getting your Licence blocked automatically from the network and we dont know what happens on new window. so to keep diff in current levels or even low it down a bit i would like to give you all a hint. . Ideal mining Setup pro Licence is 4cpu threads not more not less. It's fair for newcomers too, so let us keep the Fermat Spirit alive, and enjoy Mining!! 


Latest Stats

Code:

root@:~# IoP-cli dumpminerstats
{
 "currentheight": 12777,
  "minercapenabled": true,
  "currentavgblocksperminer": 24,
  "currentfactor": 3,
  "currentwhitelisted": 82,
  "currentcap": 72,

Code:

   
    "window": 7,
    "blockstart": 12096,
    "blockend": 14112,
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someone is lucky with this unbelievable 50-60 IoPs..

[btvGainer]

My  country is already taken how can I contact them to join my chapter and I to claim for stste chapter in advance?

[grajson]

@btvGainer If your country is already taken it should be an email address provided to your local chapter president if you would like to consult what you can do to obtain a licence. If there is no email just check what spots are free in your country (secial media website ect) do some promotion for fermat and place a link with your job in correct place.

I just translated the OP to polish and posed in our national section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1705223.0

[Luis-Fernando-Molina]

Hello BitcoinTalk community,

After signing up more than 40 chapters worldwide, we are almost ready to start the project that will help us manage the influx of people / chapters / miners and scale it up. This new project is analized at this document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BOB3Xc5vHNKBNZJeosXGi0iNCxiD6rbFTvbF1uXfv10/edit#

You are free to check it out and express yourself with comments of even suggestions to the text.

The Chapter App that will be produced by this project will allow the Fermat community to self-manage their chapters, chapter members and licenses. Also it will remove the concept of administrator approving individual licenses, transforming it on a Peer-to-Peer Community.

While we build this infrastructure, we will continue with the Google Spreadsheet welcoming only Country Chapters from all over the world and US States. Once the Chapter APP is ready we will be able to manage any country states as well.

Looking fordward for your feedback!
Cheers!
Luis

[btvGainer]

@btvGainer If your country is already taken it should be an email address provided to your local chapter president if you would like to consult what you can do to obtain a licence. If there is no email just check what spots are free in your country (secial media website ect) do some promotion for fermat and place a link with your job in correct place.

I just translated the OP to polish and posed in our national section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1705223.0

Thanks for replying but I don't see any info regarding social media etc tasks.Anyway I will be contacting them through email. I thought they would be following this thread but this seems not the case

[szachta]

Any pool?