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June 14, 2011, 11:43:49 AM
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Llano-Desktop-CPU-Lineup-Revealed-205490.shtml
Thoughts on the new platform AMD is cooking up which includes 160 stream processing units (6000 series) & supports hybrid crossfirex w/ 5000-6000 series card?
Think this will bring major processing power for mining? The processor will indeed support OpenCL.

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June 14, 2011, 11:52:02 AM
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Llano-Desktop-CPU-Lineup-Revealed-205490.shtml
Thoughts on the new platform AMD is cooking up which includes 160 stream processing units (6000 series) & supports hybrid crossfirex w/ 5000-6000 series card?
Think this will bring major processing power for mining? The processor will indeed support OpenCL.

Non issue. For now the best way is to go high density (6990). In some months it is either high density 7xxx or specialised ASIC, which will change the market from "I got a gaming computer" to "i invest minto mining dedicated hardware" and make GPU totally cost ineffective.
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June 14, 2011, 12:20:19 PM
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Llano-Desktop-CPU-Lineup-Revealed-205490.shtml
Thoughts on the new platform AMD is cooking up which includes 160 stream processing units (6000 series) & supports hybrid crossfirex w/ 5000-6000 series card?
Think this will bring major processing power for mining? The processor will indeed support OpenCL.

Non issue. For now the best way is to go high density (6990). In some months it is either high density 7xxx or specialised ASIC, which will change the market from "I got a gaming computer" to "i invest minto mining dedicated hardware" and make GPU totally cost ineffective.

I wouldn't say a few months. Southern Islands chips are only beginning to be manufactured this month or July, and mere engineering samples are available.

Early 2012 (Jan-Feb) is an optimistic scenario for high-end cards like Radeon 7990.

Do remember that the 6990 only came out 3 months ago (March 2011).

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July 06, 2011, 07:23:33 PM
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Just got this in the ol' email box:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/WEM2731.asp?SRCCODE=WEM2731TT&cm_mmc=EML-_-Main-_-WEM2731-_-tigeremail2731
[Links to an web page version of tigerdirect hawking the new AMD APUs]

I'm wondering what a projected Hash rate might be for one of these:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=808316&sku=B69-5368
You've got the (somewhat) known avg hash rates for the included 6670, as well as the on-chip 6550, but what possible performance increase/decrease can you expect with an integrated CPU?  I'm extremely curious.  I'd have to believe it would be higher than just having the two stand-alone cards, but how much higher?

And just a side note, that's a hellofalota processing power for the price.

Anyone had any experience yet? or care to speculate?

My forum name comes from ye old BBS days when 'handles' were all the rage.  And yes, Assasin is spelled incorrectly on purpose. Teenage boys do that stuff.
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July 06, 2011, 08:13:18 PM
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if the 7xxx series comes out and gamers no longer want 6990s.. the 6990 may fall in
price and be quite a nice deal for mining. More so then today i mean.
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July 06, 2011, 08:21:06 PM
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Just got this in the ol' email box:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/WEM2731.asp?SRCCODE=WEM2731TT&cm_mmc=EML-_-Main-_-WEM2731-_-tigeremail2731
[Links to an web page version of tigerdirect hawking the new AMD APUs]

I'm wondering what a projected Hash rate might be for one of these:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=808316&sku=B69-5368
You've got the (somewhat) known avg hash rates for the included 6670, as well as the on-chip 6550, but what possible performance increase/decrease can you expect with an integrated CPU?  I'm extremely curious.  I'd have to believe it would be higher than just having the two stand-alone cards, but how much higher?

And just a side note, that's a hellofalota processing power for the price.

Anyone had any experience yet? or care to speculate?

Like I mentioned it another thread, I expect it to  perform like a 5570. There's really nothing the move did that would improve bitcoin mining.
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July 06, 2011, 08:27:20 PM
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if the 7xxx series comes out and gamers no longer want 6990s.. the 6990 may fall in
price and be quite a nice deal for mining. More so then today i mean.

What about the rumor that the SHA-2 will be disabled as was speculated on this thread?

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=21365.0

I am actually thinking the opposite scenario:

If certain things are disabled and the 7xxx series suddenly becomes bloated with non-mining features, the 6990 might be secure as the best mining card for at least another year. If so, the opposite effect might occur.

I do think the 7xxx will improve in energy efficiency but at what cost to any possible features being disabled? I think it's still too early to know.

As far as the gamers not wanting 6990 which will lead to a drop in price, I feel the only reason many cards are sold out are actually due to the surge in demand from not only miners but other password hackers in the industry that are driving up prices. I know this because I have spoken to a few hackers who purchase 6990 purely for password breaking purposes for jailbreaking cellphones.

In summary, I think the gamers aren't the ones driving up prices at all for the 6990 and if they want to migrate to the 7xxx, all of their cards would still be easily absorbed by the mining community. Unless of course the official specs for the 7xxx are divulged and it turns out the specs are better for mining than the 6990.
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July 06, 2011, 09:55:35 PM
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What about the rumor that the SHA-2 will be disabled as was speculated on this thread?
It was a joke.

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