Account blocking for something that was not

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The consequence being that if we don't class this as plagiarism, we then open the floodgates to dozens of accounts copy/pasting single lines of text, then citing this example as precedent as to why low effort posts are permissable.  It doesn't matter if it's common knowledge, it has been copied verbatim without accompanying independent thought or comment.  

I agree with this completely.  It doesn't matter if it's a headline or text from an article: if someone else wrote something somewhere on the internet or on the printed page, you have to cite the source. 

The only thing that was written in the post that was reported as plagiarism was written by someone else.  That would lead the average person to reasonably assume that those words came from the brain of the member who wrote them--which isn't true in this case, hence it is plagiarism. 

But hey, it's not up to me to decide.  See how the appeal goes, OP.  You might get lucky, but use this as a learning experience if you get unbanned.

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[PnP]

But hey, it's not up to me to decide.  See how the appeal goes, OP.  You might get lucky, but use this as a learning experience if you get unbanned.

As a rule, plagiarism hides “selfish interest”.
In the case of steklomoy, a simple warning would be enough. I am sure that if it gets unbanned steklomoy will take this lesson into account.

[suchmoon]

It doesn't matter who the author is or where the text was copied from? Is your head all right?

It matters only if steklomoy is the original author. If you can prove that with timestamps etc - that's great. So far all evidence shows otherwise.

This is not a court of law. No one is going to prison. User was shown to have copied text from somewhere else and passed it as their own => ban. It's been that way for years here and you're not the first one attempting to bend the rules. That's not a winning strategy. You should focus on whether steklomoy's positive contributions to the forum are sufficient for him to get leniency in this case, instead of continuing to argue that copypasta is ok. It's not.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Why bother to prove anything to someone who breaks all the rules from the very beginning. The OP does not deny that this is his second account. Look at his trust, the account is either sold or bought.
What is a blocked account allowed to do? You can create one account and file an appeal.
If you look at the writing style of both accounts, talking about politicians and swearing at the government is the most savory topic for them. And as you can see, this is already beginning.

P.S. Now I understand what it is like for the American courts now, which demand proof of election fraud, and Trumpists continue to make unfounded accusations in response. 

And if someone does not agree, he will be doused with slops of insults.
All stories about the rules of life and the concept of "plagiarism" for this forum, the OP will deny.
Therefore, leave the moderators the right to choose.

[PnP]

It doesn't matter who the author is or where the text was copied from? Is your head all right?

It matters only if steklomoy is the original author. If you can prove that with timestamps etc - that's great. So far all evidence shows otherwise.

This is not a court of law. No one is going to prison. User was shown to have copied text from somewhere else and passed it as their own => ban. It's been that way for years here and you're not the first one attempting to bend the rules. That's not a winning strategy. You should focus on whether steklomoy's positive contributions to the forum are sufficient for him to get leniency in this case, instead of continuing to argue that copypasta is ok. It's not.

Well, I repeat again, for the imbecile. The rules of the Russian section prohibit exactly plagiarism, and not copying news headlines. Therefore, I do not need to prove anything, since the text under discussion is not plagiarism in the literal sense of the word, like the appropriation of other people's ideas, because the text does not contain any thoughts and ideas, but is news, and everyone can check its reliability through a search engine.

Why bother to prove anything to someone who breaks all the rules from the very beginning. The OP does not deny that this is his second account. Look at his trust, the account is either sold or bought.
What is a blocked account allowed to do? You can create one account and file an appeal.
If you look at the writing style of both accounts, talking about politicians and swearing at the government is the most savory topic for them. And as you can see, this is already beginning.

Forum rules do not prohibit the creation of multiple accounts, as well as their sale. By blocking such accounts, the administration is breaking its own rules. If you don't like what I write, you always have the option to ignore my messages. 

[xandry]

The rules of the Russian section prohibit exactly plagiarism, and not copying news headlines.

We have notes under the list of rules and here is one of the note about plagiarism:

Пpимeчaния:
8. Плaгиaт зaпpeщён, в тoм чиcлe в видe кoпиpoвaния, либo пepeфpaзиpoвaния чyжиx cooбщeний или тeкcтoв из ceти Интepнeт. Ecли выклaдывaeтe кoпипacтy, тo oбязaтeльнo yкaзывaйтe ccылкy нa иcтoчник.

Translation:
Plagiarism is prohibited, including in the form of copying or rephrasing other people’s messages or texts from the Internet. If you are posting something which is copied, you must include a reference to the source.

However, I believe that a temporary ban would be sufficient in this case because there is just one mistake, and he did it not to earn some money from signature campaign or not to raise his activity.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Forum rules do not prohibit the creation of multiple accounts, as well as their sale. By blocking such accounts, the administration is breaking its own rules. If you don't like what I write, you always have the option to ignore my messages. 

Have you read the rules at all? Now you have proven once again that the blocked account is your alternate account. Thus, according to the rules, this account of yours should also be banned. Once your one account is locked out, you cannot write and use the other account. The only thing you can do is create a new account for the sole purpose of filing an appeal in the META section.

[PnP]

However, I believe that a temporary ban would be sufficient in this case because there is just one mistake, and he did it not to earn some money from signature campaign or not to raise his activity.

So what's the problem with making a temporary ban?

[xandry]

So what's the problem with making a temporary ban?

The problem is that I don’t have the authority to. Just bump the topic periodically so that someone from the global moderators can see it.

[witcher_sense]

Well, I repeat again, for the imbecile. The rules of the Russian section prohibit exactly plagiarism, and not copying news headlines. Therefore, I do not need to prove anything, since the text under discussion is not plagiarism in the literal sense of the word, like the appropriation of other people's ideas, because the text does not contain any thoughts and ideas, but is news, and everyone can check its reliability through a search engine.

Would have you been struck by lightning had you put a damn link under a text you copied from the Internet? Seriously, I don't get it. Moreover, your definition of news is likely wrong since some news may well contain thoughts and ideas. Imagine you were a journalist, you spent a lot of time collecting, analyzing, transforming information into readable text, and later you would know that someone just copied your work without citing the source. Wouldn't you be upset?

[PnP]

Even the moderator wrote that this is an isolated case in the entire history of steklomoy's posts. Moreover, it has nothing to do with malicious intent. In this case, the person did not consider it necessary to give a link, since it was necessary to distribute the advertisement. Is this the crime of the century!?

We are waiting for the decision of the global moderators. Therefore, please do not clutter the topic with your subjective moral teachings.Thank you...

[suchmoon]

We are waiting for the decision of the global moderators. Therefore, please do not clutter the topic with your subjective moral teachings.Thank you...

Send an e-mail to the address given in your ban message and lock the thread instead of cluttering it with your misleading attempts to twist forum rules to your favor.

[PnP]

We are waiting for the decision of the global moderators. Therefore, please do not clutter the topic with your subjective moral teachings.Thank you...

Send an e-mail to the address given in your ban message and lock the thread instead of cluttering it with your misleading attempts to twist forum rules to your favor.

don't tell me what to do, and I won't tell you where to go 

[suchmoon]

don't tell me what to do, and I won't tell you where to go 

Oh please do, I'm bored.

Meanwhile I can tell you that this:

Личный aкк, тpacт нeйтpaльный, пpoдaю вмecтe c poднoй пoчтoй.

Personal account, trust neutral, I sell with my own mail.

Probably doesn't qualify you as a valuable member worthy of unban.

[PnP]

Личный aкк, тpacт нeйтpaльный, пpoдaю вмecтe c poднoй пoчтoй.

Personal account, trust neutral, I sell with my own mail.

Probably doesn't qualify you as a valuable member worthy of unban.

Who told you that I am asking to unblock the "PnP" account? We are talking about a "steklomoy" account. Does your dementia prevent you from understanding this? 
Although, I do not mind if you bring this up  

[DooMAD]

Who told you that I am asking to unblock the "PnP" account? We are talking about a "steklomoy" account. Does your dementia prevent you from understanding this? 

Then why do you seem more concerned with the outcome than steklomoy themselves?  Why are "they" not here asking for their account to be unblocked?

Maybe consider dropping the charade that steklomoy isn't your account. 

[suchmoon]

Who told you that I am asking to unblock the "PnP" account? We are talking about a "steklomoy" account. Does your dementia prevent you from understanding this? 
Although, I do not mind if you bring this up  

I am talking about "steklomoy" account, which you were trying to sell.

[PnP]

Then why do you seem more concerned with the outcome than steklomoy themselves?  Why are "they" not here asking for their account to be unblocked?

Didn't you think that the "steklomoy" account cannot write something here because of the ban? Or are you a moron like suchmoon?

Maybe consider dropping the charade that steklomoy isn't your account.

I hope your charade has conclusive evidence?
And in general, how does this relate to this topic? Maybe you got lost?

I am talking about "steklomoy" account, which you were trying to sell.

Did the voices in your head whisper to you again that in my post it was about the sale of the account by the "steklomoy"?

Your dementia prevents you from becoming Hercule Poirot, so don't even try