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Bounties

Bounty Tracking sheet here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tGJKFIOlKwhOMJi9wQDNbyIcXpOIkwyvFPjdew1saiQ

SIGNATURE BOUNTY FORM:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6tzzTPkVBVzv_8_0WwiE0X5fTsgil4ibQcUdlHMuNMOrKeQ/viewform

SOCIAL MEDIA BOUNTY FORM:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdk3BbjQhz6ygcN6sbyJf6YfQbkKY-2nlgUDPvPZaemp4WJcg/viewform

TRANSLATION BOUNTY FORM:
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General conditions:
Total allocated bounties will not exceed 100k or 1% of total sold TOKES (whichever is smaller).

Bounty payments are as follows:

-10%:  Translations on Bitcointalk
-30%:  Signature campaign
-60%:  Blog posts and social media

Bounties will be fulfilled after the issuance of TOKES, shortly after the ICO close.

Translations for bitcointalk:
Use our existing graphical introduction and replace the text from the announcement with the translated text (most of this copy is also available on our website cannabisrevolution.us).  Message or reply with a post linking your translation on the forum.  First come first paid for translations.

Translations still needed:  
Indonesian - Pending (Castiloros)
Japanese
Hindi - Pending (DomainMagnate)
Malayalam
Bulgarian
Spanish
Philippines - Pending (akosipepot)
Polish
Greek - Pending (killerjoegreece)
Romanian - Pending (kingorbust)
Chinese - Pending (btcdie)
German - Pending (buriks)
Dutch
Arabic - Pending (samcoin)
Italian - Pending (koko UK)
Turkish - Pending (torikan)
Afrikaans
Portuguese - Pending (raxitto)
Swedish
Norwegian
Danish
Urdu - Pending (jamalaezaz)

Blog posts and social media
Quality blog posts about the platform and social media promotion will receive compensation based on followers and readership relative to other users who have promoted/posted.  Compensation will be relative to social engagement, however blog posts will be more heavily weighted than Twitter/Facebook/Reddit posts.  Email support@tokesplatform.org with new blog and website articles/posts.  Social media claims will be collected near the end of the ICO.

Signature Campaign:
Signature campaign is for normal, Full, Senior, Hero and Legendary Members on bitcointalk; 1 stake/week for Members, 1.25 stake/week for Full, 1.5 stake/week for Senior, 1.75 stake/week for Hero and 2 stakes/week for Legendary. Stakes are added weekly, and only full weeks count towards the bounty calculation.

The developers will manage the calculation of the stakes. This will involve collecting the weekly data and determining the final TOKES distribution. The distribution will be proportional to weeks using the signature and your member status.

Participants need to keep the signature until they have received their payout. Any attempt at deception will be punished with disqualification from the campaign. Every participant needs to make at least 25 quality posts while using the signature to be eligible for the bounty.

Be sure to reply with your signature adoption in this thread so we can track your site usage!  The detailed process will be announced at ICO end.

Jr. Member and Member code is below:
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November 23, 2016, 12:58:59 AM
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Frequently Asked Questions


Q: Will there be an escrow service on the ICO?


Yes. We're utilizing a 3-party mutli-sig wallet with two independent third-party signatories. The escrow signatories include, Fran Strajnar - Co-Founder and CEO of Brave New Coin, and Collin Crypto - the second highest ranked escrow on BitRated.com. All bitcoin contributions and altcoin contributions processed through our shapeshift plugin will be managed under this escrow. Because Waves does not yet have this functionality built in, Waves contributions will not be managed under this escrow agreement, but held in trust directly by the Tokes Platform team.

Q: How do I register for your Slack channel?

Use the following link to begin registration: Slack Registration

Q: What is the distribution of ICO funds?  What is being budgeted for license acquisition versus business infrastructure or platform development?
 
This is nearly impossible to determine until we have a solid estimate of total ICO proceeds. License acquisition can be relatively inexpensive, with the demonstration of a business plan and $250K-$500K in liquid assets. These figures can change depending on the state's new requirements, but it is a solid baseline. The licenses are technically the smallest component of the budget. Locating a facility and outfitting it with the necessary equipment to undertake our objective will be a larger portion of funding. Again, our ambition here will be limited only by our capital raised. We cannot guarantee a specific return to investors, as that would very likely violate a law in some capacity.
 
Q: How soon until the mobile and point of sale applications are developed utilizing TOKES?
 
Software development will begin at ICO close, we expect a mobile app with transactional capability will live in Spring of 2017, with more features being added shortly thereafter.
 
Q: Is there a minimum ICO target?  What happens to the funds if minimum is not reached or licensing is not obtained?

We do not currently have a minimum on the ICO, as we can continue work on the TOKES Platform with relatively low overhead. However, coupling our platform with the business operation offers tremendous opportunity for TOKES holders through market buybacks facilitated with the business revenue.
 
Q: What is your contingency should regulations allow cannabis banking operations to occur? What happens to your value proposition? What are the risks to your business model that you have identified?
 
Given the current political environment and status of state legalization, we don't project legalization at the federal level for at least a decade. Probably two. We expect our platform to be well ingrained in the industry by that point. Also, to reiterate specifics from the whitepaper, we are preparing for more than strictly a digital currency. There are going to be numerous features built out in time that will provide value to users.
 
With the revenue stream generated from the cannabis business we are proposing, even in the off chance that banking regulations upon growers/dispensaries soften, there will still be value to holding TOKES in the quarterly buyback program we are offering.
 
Q: What about the other cannabis coins already out there?  Why is this different?
 
Simply put, we have a superior platform to the digital assets currently out there, and we believe we will execute with greater success than the alternatives. Not to be overly critical, but given the length of time that the other coins have been functioning, they have seriously disappointing results. We have a strong team and solid concept, and we've already laid the groundwork for our initiative within the industry.  Also, our core business will be in Las Vegas, NV, where recreational cannabis just passed via ballot measure.  It is highly likely Vegas will be THE cannabis destination in the United States, and we intend to capitalize on that.

Q: What happens to the TOKES that are not sold?
 
In the event that we hit only a portion of our target, unsold TOKES will go into a reserve account with a publicly-released wallet address. The rationale here is two-fold. First, we feel it's important to have this quantity of supply eventually available in the ecosystem, which argues against burning any unsold units. Secondly, project funding dictates that we ultimately sell the remaining units. What we will not do is dump these on the market. If at some point in the future we determine we need to undertake a secondary offering, we would release additional tranches of TOKES via off-market transactions (similar to AMP's secondary sale).

Q: Why can't cannabis dispensaries and customers simply use bitcoin or another cryptocurrency to transact? Why should they use TOKES?
 
Adoption is a large factor here.  No teams within the crypto ecosystem are currently facilitating the relationships necessary to entice dispensaries to accept cryptocurrency.  Part of our budget will be utilized to facilitate dispensary adoption.  If this requires us to physically install point of sale tablets running our application, even going out of pocket for the hardware, then that's what we will do.  We are also planning a first-time user promotions (i.e., a free gram for your first TOKES purchase at any qualified dispensary, much like Lyft's $50 first ride credits).

Second, we are offering asset pegging, which allows the dispensaries to retain the fiat value of their transactions.  This is something not offered by bitcoin, and while coins like Bitshares offer this function, it currently does not exist in a form that facilitates easy pegging from the point of sale side.  We are going to implement a user-friendly access point within the point of sale application to peg any incoming funds.



   
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I will see what will be provided to the community through this thread, I hope there is a future in this thread and wait for the latest news next
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I really support cannabis, for real.  But isn't this project literally the same thing as cannabis coin?  

this is not fud,  Just wondering since basically the only difference I see is that instead of pegging to a gram of cannabis, you are pegging to usd which is kinda the same thing if you say that 1g is $20 so pegging to 1g is the same as pegging to $20 usd.

Edit: meh who cares, GL guys hope your team is much better than What's his ass from cannabis coin.




More importantly, do you even have a cannabis guy in Nevada that knows the legal structure for cannabis there for a grow operation business?

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I really support cannabis, for real.  But isn't this project literally the same thing as cannabis coin? 

this is not fud,  Just wondering since basically the only difference I see is that instead of pegging to a gram of cannabis, you are pegging to usd which is kinda the same thing if you say that 1g is $20 so pegging to 1g is the same as pegging to $20 usd.



There's some significant differences.  The first is the development of a terrestrial business entity that will generate consistent capital and allow us to repurchase TOKES on the open exchanges.  Anonimity and a functional mobile platform are an added benefit.  This isn't just some simple mineable scrypt coin in fancy packaging.  We're in Las Vegas, NV, which recently passed recreational pot, and sandwiched between two other states with legal recreational cannabis.  As such we will have significant partnering with business for point of sale systems utilizing TOKES.  We feel our execution of this initiative will be superior to that of similar offerings in the marketplace.

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Signing in... Looking good! 

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More importantly, do you even have a cannabis guy in Nevada that knows the legal structure for cannabis there for a grow operation business?

Good question.  Yes, we're very well connected within the burgeoning recreational community here!

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More importantly, do you even have a cannabis guy in Nevada that knows the legal structure for cannabis there for a grow operation business?

Good question.  Yes, we're very well connected within the burgeoning recreational community here!

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I got little Confused Well a want to ask a bit this ICO will begun when Incent is already finishied their ICO and also when incent available on Exchanges ? right

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Ahh shit. Another weed coin. Bring it on! Oh wait..... ICO?
Fuck that shit.

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I got little Confused Well a want to ask a bit this ICO will begun when Incent is already finishied their ICO and also when incent available on Exchanges ? right


Hi Mia.

That's a good question, and it's important that we clarify here. We're working with Incent and utilizing their ICO management portal, but the Tokes Platform is a completely separate project. Our ICO starts on December 2nd and runs through January 15, 2017. This is completely independent of Incent's ICO timeline.

Hope that helps!

   
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I really support cannabis, for real.  But isn't this project literally the same thing as cannabis coin?  

this is not fud,  Just wondering since basically the only difference I see is that instead of pegging to a gram of cannabis, you are pegging to usd which is kinda the same thing if you say that 1g is $20 so pegging to 1g is the same as pegging to $20 usd.

Edit: meh who cares, GL guys hope your team is much better than What's his ass from cannabis coin.




More importantly, do you even have a cannabis guy in Nevada that knows the legal structure for cannabis there for a grow operation business?


I would add and ask if you could explain the process of acquiring a Nevada recreation permit/license?

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This looks very interesting and I am pro legalizing weed, especially for therapeutic reasons and for saving lives and the fight against cancer. So count me in and if there are any blog review bounties and for promo, would love to earn some along the way as well.  Smiley

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November 23, 2016, 06:18:31 AM
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I really support cannabis, for real.  But isn't this project literally the same thing as cannabis coin?  

this is not fud,  Just wondering since basically the only difference I see is that instead of pegging to a gram of cannabis, you are pegging to usd which is kinda the same thing if you say that 1g is $20 so pegging to 1g is the same as pegging to $20 usd.

Edit: meh who cares, GL guys hope your team is much better than What's his ass from cannabis coin.




More importantly, do you even have a cannabis guy in Nevada that knows the legal structure for cannabis there for a grow operation business?


I would add and ask if you could explain the process of acquiring a Nevada recreation permit/license?


At this point in time all available medical MME licenses have been distributed to business owners in the state, with no additional business licenses anticipated for medical in the immediate future. While the process is relatively straightforward, in terms of applying with the state and demonstrating a feasible business plan, all individuals interested in entering the business right now are forced to acquire licenses by purchasing another business listed for sale. With recreational use passing in the state of Nevada in the last election, we're eagerly anticipating a new set of guidelines to be released for recreational applications. Timing of the ICO is (semi-coincidentally) closely aligned with what we foresee to be the recreational application process. We do know that current medical business license holders will have the first opportunity to apply for recreational licenses.

While acquiring licenses via a business acquisition is not our ideal method of execution, it's a strategy we've not ruled out. We'll await the state's release of recreation license application guidelines to make a determination in that regard. As a fallback, we do have close connections in the industry who are already operating with full cultivation, production, and dispensary licenses. We have loosely discussed an alliance with them in which we can create and market the products that are already in development. We're not going to be able to disclose those partners' identities or business name at this time.

I do want to point out that while the business model is an integral component of our project, we'll be developing the Tokes Platform and digital asset independently of the cannabis operations, so TOKES holders can expect to see progression on both fronts simultaneously, but likely at different intervals.

   
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Looks good, always rootin for the cannabis projects, good luck guys/gal Grin Grin

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I really support cannabis, for real.  But isn't this project literally the same thing as cannabis coin?  

this is not fud,  Just wondering since basically the only difference I see is that instead of pegging to a gram of cannabis, you are pegging to usd which is kinda the same thing if you say that 1g is $20 so pegging to 1g is the same as pegging to $20 usd.

Edit: meh who cares, GL guys hope your team is much better than What's his ass from cannabis coin.




More importantly, do you even have a cannabis guy in Nevada that knows the legal structure for cannabis there for a grow operation business?


I would add and ask if you could explain the process of acquiring a Nevada recreation permit/license?


At this point in time all available medical MME licenses have been distributed to business owners in the state, with no additional business licenses anticipated for medical in the immediate future. While the process is relatively straightforward, in terms of applying with the state and demonstrating a feasible business plan, all individuals interested in entering the business right now are forced to acquire licenses by purchasing another business listed for sale. With recreational use passing in the state of Nevada in the last election, we're eagerly anticipating a new set of guidelines to be released for recreational applications. Timing of the ICO is (semi-coincidentally) closely aligned with what we foresee to be the recreational application process. We do know that current medical business license holders will have the first opportunity to apply for recreational licenses.

While acquiring licenses via a business acquisition is not our ideal method of execution, it's a strategy we've not ruled out. We'll await the state's release of recreation license application guidelines to make a determination in that regard. As a fallback, we do have close connections in the industry who are already operating with full cultivation, production, and dispensary licenses. We have loosely discussed an alliance with them in which we can create and market the products that are already in development. We're not going to be able to disclose those partners' identities or business name at this time.

I do want to point out that while the business model is an integral component of our project, we'll be developing the Tokes Platform and digital asset independently of the cannabis operations, so TOKES holders can expect to see progression on both fronts simultaneously, but likely at different intervals.

What is the distribution of ICO funds?  Specifically, what is earmarked for license acquisition verses business acquisition versus partnership?  How do these options impact the revenue model? Is there a guaranteed percentage that is returned to token holders?
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What is the roadmap timeline e.g., phase I (business/license formation) and phase II (technical development)?
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All garbages with things on paper are doing ICOs. Easy money to grab, lol. Grin Grin Grin


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Is there a minimum ICO target?    What happens to the funds if minimum is not reached or licensing is not obtained?
How are ICO funds escrowed?
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Any bounty campaign sir???
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What is your contingency should regulations allow MME banking operations to occur? What happens to your value proposition? What are the risks to your business model that you have identified?
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I do not say much about this, but I see a lot of threads full ICO them compete, I thought you had seen it, let's see what determines Tokes been able to compete with other ICO

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Interesting idea. I wish you good luck in this project, I like the idea of empowering the legalization movement with a crypto token.
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Any bounty campaign sir???
Waiting more informations

We're finalizing the details of a signature campaign and translation bounties. Stay tuned for more info. Open to suggestions on additional promotion and marketing of the platform.

   
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It's getting a bit late and I'll be turning in soon, but I want to attempt to address a few of your questions first:


What is the distribution of ICO funds?  Specifically, what is earmarked for license acquisition verses business acquisition versus partnership?  How do these options impact the revenue model? Is there a guaranteed percentage that is returned to token holders?

This is nearly impossible to determine until we have a solid estimate of ICO proceeds. License acquisition can be relatively inexpensive, with the demonstration of a business plan and $250K-$500K in liquid assets. Those figures can change depending on the state's new requirements, but it's a solid baseline. The licenses are technically the smallest component of the budget though. Locating a facility and outfitting it with the necessary equipment to undertake our objective will be a larger portion of funding. Again, our ambition here will be limited only by our capital raise. We cannot guarantee a specific return to investors, as that would very likely violate a law in some capacity.


What is the roadmap timeline e.g., phase I (business/license formation) and phase II (technical development)?

We anticipate development on both fronts within 90 days of ICO close, including a mobile app with transactional capability.


Is there a minimum ICO target?    What happens to the funds if minimum is not reached or licensing is not obtained?
How are ICO funds escrowed?

We do not currently have a minimum on the ICO, as we can continue work on the Tokes Platform with relatively low overhead. That said, coupling our platform with the business operation offers tremendous opportunity for TOKES holders. We're also finalizing details on our escrow (still PRE-ANN), but we are likely establishing a multi-sig escrow account with 2 external independent third parties and ourselves.


What is your contingency should regulations allow MME banking operations to occur? What happens to your value proposition? What are the risks to your business model that you have identified?

You're referring to federal legalization, which would be required to facilitate the banking of these individuals. Given the current political environment and status of state legalization, we don't project legalization at the federal level for at least a decade. Probably two. We expect our platform to be well ingrained in the industry by that point. And to reiterate specifics from the whitepaper, we're preparing for more than strictly a digital currency. There are going to be numerous features built out in time that will provide value to users.


Appreciate all the questions!



   
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I'm a big fan of cannabis and cannabis related products.. (I'm dutch for a reason  Roll Eyes)

However.. I don't see any past experience around cannabis itself in the team members list.. You can bring in experienced coders etc.. But without cannabis growing experts and people with great knowledge and global connections in this scene, this will not work imho..

Also 5 million dollars.. Are you trying to buy out greenhouseseeds.com or something? Cheesy
Way to much budget for a cannabis startup..
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Hy canabis lover here also... 😀
I would like to reserve the Portuguese translation...
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It's getting a bit late and I'll be turning in soon, but I want to attempt to address a few of your questions first:


What is the distribution of ICO funds?  Specifically, what is earmarked for license acquisition verses business acquisition versus partnership?  How do these options impact the revenue model? Is there a guaranteed percentage that is returned to token holders?

This is nearly impossible to determine until we have a solid estimate of ICO proceeds. License acquisition can be relatively inexpensive, with the demonstration of a business plan and $250K-$500K in liquid assets. Those figures can change depending on the state's new requirements, but it's a solid baseline. The licenses are technically the smallest component of the budget though. Locating a facility and outfitting it with the necessary equipment to undertake our objective will be a larger portion of funding. Again, our ambition here will be limited only by our capital raise. We cannot guarantee a specific return to investors, as that would very likely violate a law in some capacity.


What is the roadmap timeline e.g., phase I (business/license formation) and phase II (technical development)?

We anticipate development on both fronts within 90 days of ICO close, including a mobile app with transactional capability.


Is there a minimum ICO target?    What happens to the funds if minimum is not reached or licensing is not obtained?
How are ICO funds escrowed?

We do not currently have a minimum on the ICO, as we can continue work on the Tokes Platform with relatively low overhead. That said, coupling our platform with the business operation offers tremendous opportunity for TOKES holders. We're also finalizing details on our escrow (still PRE-ANN), but we are likely establishing a multi-sig escrow account with 2 external independent third parties and ourselves.


What is your contingency should regulations allow MME banking operations to occur? What happens to your value proposition? What are the risks to your business model that you have identified?

You're referring to federal legalization, which would be required to facilitate the banking of these individuals. Given the current political environment and status of state legalization, we don't project legalization at the federal level for at least a decade. Probably two. We expect our platform to be well ingrained in the industry by that point. And to reiterate specifics from the whitepaper, we're preparing for more than strictly a digital currency. There are going to be numerous features built out in time that will provide value to users.


Appreciate all the questions!




Thanks for all your answers.
Last question: What is your strategy with respect to nullifying channel conflict? Specifically, if you are asking other producers/vendors to basically hang a sign "Tokes Accepted Here" and at the same time manufacturing/distributing a competitive product, how do you manage the conflict?
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$5 million funding objectives, I think the rise in BTC prise has made people to abuse crowd-funding. I'm not particular about Tokes Platform at all I'm just speaking in general terms. Can this project collect up to $5 million form VC to be sincere?
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Why?

There is an abundance of cannabis coins already......

Smells like a blatant money grab.......


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Why?

There is an abundance of cannabis coins already......

Smells like a blatant money grab.......



Quite simply put, we feel we have a superior platform to the digital assets currently out there, and believe we can execute with greater success than the alternatives. Not to be overly critical, but given the length of time that the other coins have been functioning, they have seriously disappointing results. We have a strong team and solid concept, and we've already laid the groundwork for our initiative within the industry.

If you haven't done so, I'd encourage you to give our whitepaper and business plan a read through.

   
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Any bounty blog campaign sir?
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Why?

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Smells like a blatant money grab.......



Quite simply put, we feel we have a superior platform to the digital assets currently out there, and believe we can execute with greater success than the alternatives. Not to be overly critical, but given the length of time that the other coins have been functioning, they have seriously disappointing results. We have a strong team and solid concept, and we've already laid the groundwork for our initiative within the industry.

If you haven't done so, I'd encourage you to give our whitepaper and business plan a read through.

superior platform for cannabis sales is a big fail.

You need to FOCUS on TOP Genetics.  I am in the Cannabis industry of California, I see people with ideas like this all the time and there's more non-crypto related cannabis apps already.

Having quality Flower Consistently > More funding

And in the cannabis industry, the best flower is never grown in a cannabis factory but in small batches by people who love what they do not just for money but for medicine that will never give you any of their product.

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Any bounty blog campaign sir?

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Oh my. How many cannabis related projects already just this year? You guys might have very good intention and ideas but $5 million seriously? I think even Incent and Komodo didn't/barely reached that amount. Anyway good luck. I'll still continue to watch and see if there will be more progress in days to come.

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I believe the surge in cannabis alts is due to Obama legalizing it. I've also observed that drug-related coins like dope, hemp and pot coin have been pumping a lot of late...
Think there is money in it.
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Just an observation - the description of your value proposition is a bit sketchy.

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As the business develops, long term holders of TOKES will derive value through a redistribution of profits. There are several avenues we can utilize to execute this value proposition, including dividends and token buy-backs. We will be consulting further with our legal team prior to initiating these transactions to ensure that these rewards are entirely legal and above-board.

It might be a good idea to get the legal side of dividends sorted before the ICO starts. In the US where you are based this could be a particularly problematic issue for both Tokes and Token Holders. Different for many countries.

Additionally - some numbers on % split of profits to token holders vs Tokes entity is needed.  Investors need to have some idea of potential value/return. Is Tokes value pegged to USD? If so how can value rise?  So these dividends might be the main focus for any investor.

Equity - assume there is no equity in Tokes entity by token holders - state that clearly if so.

A clear and definitive statement on these by the time of the ICO would certainly help me decide to invest or not.



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November 23, 2016, 11:11:06 PM
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Just an observation - the description of your value proposition is a bit sketchy.

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As the business develops, long term holders of TOKES will derive value through a redistribution of profits. There are several avenues we can utilize to execute this value proposition, including dividends and token buy-backs. We will be consulting further with our legal team prior to initiating these transactions to ensure that these rewards are entirely legal and above-board.

It might be a good idea to get the legal side of dividends sorted before the ICO starts. In the US where you are based this could be a particularly problematic issue for both Tokes and Token Holders. Different for many countries.

Additionally - some numbers on % split of profits to token holders vs Tokes entity is needed.  Investors need to have some idea of potential value/return. Is Tokes value pegged to USD? If so how can value rise?  So these dividends might be the main focus for any investor.

Equity - assume there is no equity in Tokes entity by token holders - state that clearly if so.

A clear and definitive statement on these by the time of the ICO would certainly help me decide to invest or not.


These are all valid points, and items we discuss fairly extensively in the white paper.

You're spot-on with respect to the dividends being potentially problematic due to financial regulations. For that reason, we're not considering direct dividend compensation until we can exercise a fully legal avenue to do so. However, that does not prevent us from utilizing a mechanism we're calling the Tokes Repurchase Program, in which we are allocating business profits to make open-market purchases of TOKES in support of the token.

Also for legal purposes, it's really difficult for us to specify an exact amount of profits dedicated to the repurchase. I can tell you that we've internally discussed 25-50% of net operating profits, but it's not something we can commit to steadfastly. Business operating cash flows and working capital requirements will be considered prior to making the open market purchases, but I can assure you that we intend to maximize our support of the platform.

You are correct that company ownership is not included with the purchase of TOKES - like all other digital asset ICOs. Selling ownership would likely be an SEC violation. Investors can expect a similar value proposition to that of other tokens, in that value is derived largely by supply and demand. We'll be driving value on both ends by accumulating supply and driving demand at retailers. The asset pegging mechanism will function similarly to BitUSD and BitShares, in that the peg will be an option asset to be used by the retailers who desire protection in the value of their holdings based on $USD.

We share your sentiment that it's incredibly important to be above-board and function under the letter of the law. It's the reason why we've formatting the ICO in the way that we have. Hope that alleviates some of your concerns...

   
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November 24, 2016, 01:46:58 AM
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Just an observation - the description of your value proposition is a bit sketchy.

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As the business develops, long term holders of TOKES will derive value through a redistribution of profits. There are several avenues we can utilize to execute this value proposition, including dividends and token buy-backs. We will be consulting further with our legal team prior to initiating these transactions to ensure that these rewards are entirely legal and above-board.

It might be a good idea to get the legal side of dividends sorted before the ICO starts. In the US where you are based this could be a particularly problematic issue for both Tokes and Token Holders. Different for many countries.

Additionally - some numbers on % split of profits to token holders vs Tokes entity is needed.  Investors need to have some idea of potential value/return. Is Tokes value pegged to USD? If so how can value rise?  So these dividends might be the main focus for any investor.

Equity - assume there is no equity in Tokes entity by token holders - state that clearly if so.

A clear and definitive statement on these by the time of the ICO would certainly help me decide to invest or not.


These are all valid points, and items we discuss fairly extensively in the white paper.

You're spot-on with respect to the dividends being potentially problematic due to financial regulations. For that reason, we're not considering direct dividend compensation until we can exercise a fully legal avenue to do so. However, that does not prevent us from utilizing a mechanism we're calling the Tokes Repurchase Program, in which we are allocating business profits to make open-market purchases of TOKES in support of the token.

Also for legal purposes, it's really difficult for us to specify an exact amount of profits dedicated to the repurchase. I can tell you that we've internally discussed 25-50% of net operating profits, but it's not something we can commit to steadfastly. Business operating cash flows and working capital requirements will be considered prior to making the open market purchases, but I can assure you that we intend to maximize our support of the platform.

You are correct that company ownership is not included with the purchase of TOKES - like all other digital asset ICOs. Selling ownership would likely be an SEC violation. Investors can expect a similar value proposition to that of other tokens, in that value is derived largely by supply and demand. We'll be driving value on both ends by accumulating supply and driving demand at retailers. The asset pegging mechanism will function similarly to BitUSD and BitShares, in that the peg will be an option asset to be used by the retailers who desire protection in the value of their holdings based on $USD.

We share your sentiment that it's incredibly important to be above-board and function under the letter of the law. It's the reason why we've formatting the ICO in the way that we have. Hope that alleviates some of your concerns...


Thanks for your answer KOV

that clears a few things up.

I see now that the market price of Tokes is not pegged - just retailers who desire protection.

Additionally - buy back supports price and direct dividends in TOKES may be possible after you check legalities (they certainly would be in some jurisdictions).  

Would "Rewards" with INCENT instead of "dividends" with TOKES solve any issues here? Buying INCENT would clearly be an expense to your company and INCENT distributions between INCENT and their clients.

Good luck with the ICO.

I will be in for a few.

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November 24, 2016, 02:13:48 AM
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so many Cannabis coins now

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pliss chek my PM

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so many Cannabis coins now

There's only one, the way we see it.  Wink


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Trust summary for kov

This user's email address was changed recently.

OP has one year absent, and password changed recently, I think it may the purchased account, be aware guys, many purchased account scams in this year.

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Trust summary for kov

This user's email address was changed recently.

OP has one year absent, and password changed recently, I think it may the purchased account, be aware guys, many purchased account scams in this year.


I can assure you this was not a purchased account. The email address was updated to reflect our tokesplatform.org domain. My post history has always been sporadic, as it was mostly used for trading alts. We've had some great development on trading platforms over the last 1-2 years, so I didn't comment on here much. My last password change was when BCT had a breach and required everyone to change passwords. Beyond that, my information is freely available on our website, so I'm not trying to hide anything. Check it out at http://cannabisrevolution.us

   
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pliss put me thread korea in your topic thanks

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Any bounty campaign sir??? like signature campaign, social network camp etc??

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Any bounty campaign sir??? like signature campaign, social network camp etc??

Just posted.  Might be making some tweaks to the signatures in the coming hours.

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Would like to clear a few things:

1. Total supply of Tokes ever is 50m.  Of which 2.5m is kept by the dev team?
2. 100,000 tokes bounties is it part of 2.5m retained for growth?
3. What happens to the tokes that are not sold?
4. What is the minimum funding required for project to still go ahead?

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Would like to clear a few things:

1. Total supply of Tokes ever is 50m.  Of which 2.5m is kept by the dev team?
2. 100,000 tokes bounties is it part of 2.5m retained for growth?
3. What happens to the tokes that are not sold?
4. What is the minimum funding required for project to still go ahead?


1. Yes, that is correct.

2. Correct - we'll be paying all bounties, promotional, and marketing rewards out of the founder's share.

3. Unsold TOKES will go into a reserve account with a publicly-released wallet address. The rationale here is two-fold. First, we feel it's important to have this quantity of supply eventually available in the ecosystem, which argues against burning any unsold units. Secondly, project funding dictates that we ultimately sell the remaining units. What we will not do is dump these on the market. If at some point in the future we determine we need to undertake a secondary offering, we would release additional tranches of TOKES via off-market transactions (similar to AMP's secondary sale). It's also very possible, depending on business success, that we identify methods of releasing these into the market via giveaways or strategic alliances. The alliances are particularly appealing because they would enable us to enhance our overall competitiveness, further improve TOKES presence and demand, and recruit additional businesses to spread our message. This is great for every holder of TOKES.

4. We've touched on this briefly before, but I'll summarize here. Due to the nature of our multi-pronged approach, we have flexibility in our capital raise. In order to execute on the Cannabis Revolution terrestrial business, we need to raise approximately $250-$500K in USD-equivalent digital assets. The Tokes Platform, with very little overhead, can be executed with significantly less capital in the neighborhood of $50K. With that said, we have an entire backlog of innovative concepts we'd like to begin true development on following the ICO. For that reason, and because it drastically improves our chances of success, we're targeting a significantly larger capital raise of $5MM.


Thanks for the questions pugilist555.

   
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Would like to clear a few things:

1. Total supply of Tokes ever is 50m.  Of which 2.5m is kept by the dev team?
2. 100,000 tokes bounties is it part of 2.5m retained for growth?
3. What happens to the tokes that are not sold?
4. What is the minimum funding required for project to still go ahead?


1. Yes, that is correct.

2. Correct - we'll be paying all bounties, promotional, and marketing rewards out of the founder's share.

3. Unsold TOKES will go into a reserve account with a publicly-released wallet address. The rationale here is two-fold. First, we feel it's important to have this quantity of supply eventually available in the ecosystem, which argues against burning any unsold units. Secondly, project funding dictates that we ultimately sell the remaining units. What we will not do is dump these on the market. If at some point in the future we determine we need to undertake a secondary offering, we would release additional tranches of TOKES via off-market transactions (similar to AMP's secondary sale). It's also very possible, depending on business success, that we identify methods of releasing these into the market via giveaways or strategic alliances. The alliances are particularly appealing because they would enable us to enhance our overall competitiveness, further improve TOKES presence and demand, and recruit additional businesses to spread our message. This is great for every holder of TOKES.

4. We've touched on this briefly before, but I'll summarize here. Due to the nature of our multi-pronged approach, we have flexibility in our capital raise. In order to execute on the Cannabis Revolution terrestrial business, we need to raise approximately $250-$500K in USD-equivalent digital assets. The Tokes Platform, with very little overhead, can be executed with significantly less capital in the neighborhood of $50K. With that said, we have an entire backlog of innovative concepts we'd like to begin true development on following the ICO. For that reason, and because it drastically improves our chances of success, we're targeting a significantly larger capital raise of $5MM.


Thanks for the questions pugilist555.

Thank you for replying to my questions. I have a couple more:

1. Is $5 million the total cap for the ICO?

2. Just doing rough maths is not adding up and if you may kindly clear it. This is a hypothetical situation:

You mentioned 50m total supply. 2.5m of which is the dev fund so the total distribution is 47.5m Tokes.

Say if you have a very successful lauch and collect 6849.31 btc (ico objective $5 mn - @ btc = $730 each) on Day 1.

Based on your day 1 price 7500 tokes/btc the total you will have to sell is 51.37m tokes (6849.31*7500) but the total available for distribution is 47.5m.

Am I correct or have i calculated incorrectly? This situation can get far worse if btc price drops to $700.

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Thank you for replying to my questions. I have a couple more:

1. Is $5 million the total cap for the ICO?

2. Just doing rough maths is not adding up and if you may kindly clear it. This is a hypothetical situation:

You mentioned 50m total supply. 2.5m of which is the dev fund so the total distribution is 47.5m Tokes.

Say if you have a very successful lauch and collect 6849.31 btc (ico objective $5 mn - @ btc = $730 each) on Day 1.

Based on your day 1 price 7500 tokes/btc the total you will have to sell is 51.37m tokes (6849.31*7500) but the total available for distribution is 47.5m.

Am I correct or have i calculated incorrectly? This situation can get far worse if btc price drops to $700.


1. There is no hard cap on the ICO outside of the 47.5MM units for sale.

2. Your math is essentially correct. There are many variables out of our control, i.e. btc/usd rate and the time at which people purchase tokes in the ICO structure, so we're not trying to raise exactly $5MM. However, given current exchange rate, and in the hypothetical scenario in which we sell out completely on day 1 because of the significant bonus, we would raise 6,333 btc, or roughly $4.6MM. While that is half-million off target, given time value of money and our ability to immediately go to work, it's acceptable. The more likely scenario is that we sell out throughout the campaign, with the majority of investment coming in at the beginning and end of the ICO (based on our observations of other ICOs).

   
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Could we actually get verifiable profiles,pictures and the backgrounds of the people who are asking for the funding?

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Could we actually get verifiable profiles,pictures and the backgrounds of the people who are asking for the funding?

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Thank you for replying to my questions. I have a couple more:

1. Is $5 million the total cap for the ICO?

2. Just doing rough maths is not adding up and if you may kindly clear it. This is a hypothetical situation:

You mentioned 50m total supply. 2.5m of which is the dev fund so the total distribution is 47.5m Tokes.

Say if you have a very successful lauch and collect 6849.31 btc (ico objective $5 mn - @ btc = $730 each) on Day 1.

Based on your day 1 price 7500 tokes/btc the total you will have to sell is 51.37m tokes (6849.31*7500) but the total available for distribution is 47.5m.

Am I correct or have i calculated incorrectly? This situation can get far worse if btc price drops to $700.


1. There is no hard cap on the ICO outside of the 47.5MM units for sale.

2. Your math is essentially correct. There are many variables out of our control, i.e. btc/usd rate and the time at which people purchase tokes in the ICO structure, so we're not trying to raise exactly $5MM. However, given current exchange rate, and in the hypothetical scenario in which we sell out completely on day 1 because of the significant bonus, we would raise 6,333 btc, or roughly $4.6MM. While that is half-million off target, given time value of money and our ability to immediately go to work, it's acceptable. The more likely scenario is that we sell out throughout the campaign, with the majority of investment coming in at the beginning and end of the ICO (based on our observations of other ICOs).

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Thank you for replying to my questions. I have a couple more:

1. Is $5 million the total cap for the ICO?

2. Just doing rough maths is not adding up and if you may kindly clear it. This is a hypothetical situation:

You mentioned 50m total supply. 2.5m of which is the dev fund so the total distribution is 47.5m Tokes.

Say if you have a very successful lauch and collect 6849.31 btc (ico objective $5 mn - @ btc = $730 each) on Day 1.

Based on your day 1 price 7500 tokes/btc the total you will have to sell is 51.37m tokes (6849.31*7500) but the total available for distribution is 47.5m.

Am I correct or have i calculated incorrectly? This situation can get far worse if btc price drops to $700.


1. There is no hard cap on the ICO outside of the 47.5MM units for sale.

2. Your math is essentially correct. There are many variables out of our control, i.e. btc/usd rate and the time at which people purchase tokes in the ICO structure, so we're not trying to raise exactly $5MM. However, given current exchange rate, and in the hypothetical scenario in which we sell out completely on day 1 because of the significant bonus, we would raise 6,333 btc, or roughly $4.6MM. While that is half-million off target, given time value of money and our ability to immediately go to work, it's acceptable. The more likely scenario is that we sell out throughout the campaign, with the majority of investment coming in at the beginning and end of the ICO (based on our observations of other ICOs).

Thank you for taking the time to reply.


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when is open bounty Tokes is run and how long
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Thanks Giovanni. It's been added and documented for the bounty.

   
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Thanks Giovanni. It's been added and documented for the bounty.

Thanks. And I have a couple of questions.

1. Can We get confirmation from W0lf about his participation in this thread?
2. You've considered the possibility  of using escorw for phases of development to increasing trust?

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Please add my Russian translation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694368.0

Thanks Giovanni. It's been added and documented for the bounty.

Thanks. And I have a couple of questions.

1. Can We get confirmation from W0lf about his participation in this thread?
2. You've considered the possibility  of using escorw for phases of development to increasing trust?

We are indeed working on TOKES. Kov is a dear friend of ours and helped Wolf out when he was just starting - now it's time to return the favour.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694368.0

Thanks Giovanni. It's been added and documented for the bounty.

Thanks. And I have a couple of questions.

1. Can We get confirmation from W0lf about his participation in this thread?
2. You've considered the possibility  of using escorw for phases of development to increasing trust?

We are indeed working on TOKES. Kov is a dear friend of ours and helped Wolf out when he was just starting - now it's time to return the favour.

We are indeed working on this.

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Please add my Russian translation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694368.0

Thanks Giovanni. It's been added and documented for the bounty.

Thanks. And I have a couple of questions.

1. Can We get confirmation from W0lf about his participation in this thread?
2. You've considered the possibility  of using escorw for phases of development to increasing trust?


Giovanni, we're in the final stages of completing our escrow agreement now. We'll be utilizing a 3-key multi-sig wallet, with two external third party signatories. As soon as we open our ICO investment management portal you'll be able to read the entire document.

   
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Please add my Russian translation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694368.0

Thanks Giovanni. It's been added and documented for the bounty.

Thanks. And I have a couple of questions.

1. Can We get confirmation from W0lf about his participation in this thread?
2. You've considered the possibility  of using escorw for phases of development to increasing trust?

We are indeed working on TOKES. Kov is a dear friend of ours and helped Wolf out when he was just starting - now it's time to return the favour.

interesting......now we know who's wolfie's owner....... Grin
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I love the concept of this coin. Seems more grounded and tied to the needs of retailers with the USD pegging. However, the mechanism remains a mystery to me. Can you share how it works? My confusion lies in the fact that TOKES themselves will have an ever changing market value (hopefully rising all the time Smiley), but pegging requires a static value. Without a second TOKEusd token, do you lock the retailers TOKES or fiat into something like WavesUSD, and when they want their money again, switch it back into TOKES at the current rate or back into fiat?
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I love the concept of this coin. Seems more grounded and tied to the needs of retailers with the USD pegging. However, the mechanism remains a mystery to me. Can you share how it works? My confusion lies in the fact that TOKES themselves will have an ever changing market value (hopefully rising all the time Smiley), but pegging requires a static value. Without a second TOKEusd token, do you lock the retailers TOKES or fiat into something like WavesUSD, and when they want their money again, switch it back into TOKES at the current rate or back into fiat?


Exactly right gbdesai. We're going to be working closely with the Waves Platform and development team to implement the peg, but it will most likely be a secondary unit. The burden will be on us to communicate that mechanism with our retail partners, but we intend to undertake extensive community education efforts to assist with adoption.

   
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I love the concept of this coin. Seems more grounded and tied to the needs of retailers with the USD pegging. However, the mechanism remains a mystery to me. Can you share how it works? My confusion lies in the fact that TOKES themselves will have an ever changing market value (hopefully rising all the time Smiley), but pegging requires a static value. Without a second TOKEusd token, do you lock the retailers TOKES or fiat into something like WavesUSD, and when they want their money again, switch it back into TOKES at the current rate or back into fiat?


Exactly right gbdesai. We're going to be working closely with the Waves Platform and development team to implement the peg, but it will most likely be a secondary unit. The burden will be on us to communicate that mechanism with our retail partners, but we intend to undertake extensive community education efforts to assist with adoption.

Sweet. I'm in. Looking forward to this!
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Please add my Russian translation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694368.0

Thanks Giovanni. It's been added and documented for the bounty.

Thanks. And I have a couple of questions.

1. Can We get confirmation from W0lf about his participation in this thread?
2. You've considered the possibility  of using escorw for phases of development to increasing trust?

We are indeed working on TOKES. Kov is a dear friend of ours and helped Wolf out when he was just starting - now it's time to return the favour.

We are indeed working on this.

Ok. Thanks for your consideration.


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Hello all,

We are the ICORating team.

We’re creating the most detailed database of every company that is having, or planning to have, an ICO. We’re also developing ratings and analytical reports that will increase potential investors’ awareness on such companies.

We’re happy to announce that TOKES Platform is now listed on our website. Check it out here http://icorating.com/project/26/Tokes.

We appreciate any feedback. Please feel free to contact us if there are any additions/corrections you want to insert.

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Hello all,

We are the ICORating team.

We’re creating the most detailed database of every company that is having, or planning to have, an ICO. We’re also developing ratings and analytical reports that will increase potential investors’ awareness on such companies.

We’re happy to announce that TOKES Platform is now listed on our website. Check it out here http://icorating.com/project/26/Tokes.

We appreciate any feedback. Please feel free to contact us if there are any additions/corrections you want to insert.

Great looking site! We appreciate the addition to the page. If you're interested in any additional information, please don't hesitate to reach out.

   
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how much was donated so far to the ico?

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where i can see to participan acepted in tokes signature campaign
and why not post in marketplaced altcoin about signature campaign

and who is escrow handle your ico selling or without escrow

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where i can see to participan acepted in tokes signature campaign
and why not post in marketplaced altcoin about signature campaign

and who is escrow handle your ico selling or without escrow

Escrow will be announced soon. 

...and we just created the marketplace thread here.

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Coming to a dispensary near you...


   
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Coming to a dispensary near you...


congrat and coming
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I have the Tokes signature on board now???

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How to send from platform to exchange?

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look interesting i will keep my eye on this thread for further informations especially the escrow
for now lots of ICO coins hope tokes will give us good plan for future so all investors not disappointed
and will join on social media campaign to help spread the word about tokes,  good luck for the project

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November 30, 2016, 05:38:55 PM
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I have the Tokes signature on board now???

Looks good tosha566 - we'll put you down for the signature campaign Smiley


How to send from platform to exchange?

Once we're listed on an exchange, you'll be able to transfer your initial tokes via the Waves wallet.




PSA: we've updated the first page with escrow details in an early version of our FAQ. Take a look at post #3 for more info.

   
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I make translations in turkish.

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Hello,

I saw this project today here.
Okay nice 5 million dollar idea...

What drives you to grow marihuana?

I see that there is a codebase developer,network engineer,interface Design / Developer,Community Manager.

Where is the gardener  Grin Roll Eyes.
Without a good gardener there is no good marihuana.

To be honest i think you don't know anything about growing and want to create another hyped marihuana coin.


 




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Hello,

I saw this project today here.
Okay nice 5 million dollar idea...

What drives you to grow marihuana?

I see that there is a codebase developer,network engineer,interface Design / Developer,Community Manager.

Where is the gardener  Grin Roll Eyes.
Without a good gardener there is no good marihuana.

To be honest i think you don't know anything about growing and want to create another hyped marihuana coin.


I fully agree. Own Jorge Cervantes dude is absolutely essential for this idea.



 Grin

But he can be involved on "team expansion" in phase1 between "initial funding" and "facilities & licensing" if ICO goes well


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Hello,

I saw this project today here.
Okay nice 5 million dollar idea...

What drives you to grow marihuana?

I see that there is a codebase developer,network engineer,interface Design / Developer,Community Manager.

Where is the gardener  Grin Roll Eyes.
Without a good gardener there is no good marihuana.

To be honest i think you don't know anything about growing and want to create another hyped marihuana coin.



The decision to pursue cannabis cultivation is both opportunistic as well as a work of passion. As a newly formed yet rapidly growing industry, we feel that there is tremendous opportunity to create products and services that fulfill various needs and create value, doing so as first movers. Coupling this industry with the cutting edge technology of blockchain and digital assets offers various competitive advantages over current operations in the field. We do additionally have deep enthusiasm for cultivation and the rewarding nature that growing anything from seed to harvest can produce. We have some experience in the area, but more importantly, we have a robust network of entrepreneurs already operating in the field. We'll release more information on this as we become comfortable announcing those partnerships.

It's important to remember that we're undertaking a huge initiative here. Our objective is to create a tangible cannabis enterprise that supports the tokes platform and tokes digital currency. That's more than most cryptocurrency projects can claim. We need to be strategic in our utilization of human resources. Having a botanist on the team at this stage is not realistic. After funding and procurement of licenses and facilities we'll undertake team building. That would include bringing on any specialists necessary to facilitate the growth of our operation.

I can appreciate your concerns, but hope you can understand the complexity and potential of the mission at hand. This is a significant opportunity for anyone involved in the ICO.

   
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Hey all,

We've simplified and automated the process to sign up for the slack channel. You can now register at the following: Slack Registration

Hope to see you there.

   
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Hello,

I saw this project today here.
Okay nice 5 million dollar idea...

What drives you to grow marihuana?

I see that there is a codebase developer,network engineer,interface Design / Developer,Community Manager.

Where is the gardener  Grin Roll Eyes.
Without a good gardener there is no good marihuana.

To be honest i think you don't know anything about growing and want to create another hyped marihuana coin.



The decision to pursue cannabis cultivation is both opportunistic as well as a work of passion. As a newly formed yet rapidly growing industry, we feel that there is tremendous opportunity to create products and services that fulfill various needs and create value, doing so as first movers. Coupling this industry with the cutting edge technology of blockchain and digital assets offers various competitive advantages over current operations in the field. We do additionally have deep enthusiasm for cultivation and the rewarding nature that growing anything from seed to harvest can produce. We have some experience in the area, but more importantly, we have a robust network of entrepreneurs already operating in the field. We'll release more information on this as we become comfortable announcing those partnerships.

It's important to remember that we're undertaking a huge initiative here. Our objective is to create a tangible cannabis enterprise that supports the tokes platform and tokes digital currency. That's more than most cryptocurrency projects can claim. We need to be strategic in our utilization of human resources. Having a botanist on the team at this stage is not realistic. After funding and procurement of licenses and facilities we'll undertake team building. That would include bringing on any specialists necessary to facilitate the growth of our operation.

I can appreciate your concerns, but hope you can understand the complexity and potential of the mission at hand. This is a significant opportunity for anyone involved in the ICO.

Yes this can be a significant oppertunity.
This can be a game changer in the usa marihuana industry.

Only the plan is for me not complete enough. With all the respect for the technical things what you want to create. But if i understand this well is this token drived by a mariuana industry by selling marihuana and oll the other things what is possible with marihuana.

In my opinion is growing also a concern to think about from the beginning of the asset.
Its 5 million usd where you talk about and whit that amount you can create a giant growingfactory (paradise Cool)

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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

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So they asking for money to establish their own weed business.

But right now, they don't even want to concentrate on the key axis of their business- the WEED.

need 5 million dollars first.

sure.

let me get my bitcorns.....

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Do Tokes also use ESCROW, I think also need to introduce anyone who works in this project at least the information disclosure is very important Smiley

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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.


Do Tokes also use ESCROW, I think also need to introduce anyone who works in this project at least the information disclosure is very important Smiley


Hey guys. We've released all of the escrow details a few posts back, but also have all of the specifics in our FAQ back on page 1 (post #3). All of our team details can be located at http://cannabisrevolution.us/#team

Looking forward to seeing you at launch today!

   
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To all the TOKES supporters:

We're very excited to announce that we've opened live access to the investment portal, with 30 minutes early access for anyone following this thread. You can now register your account by following the links in our opening post, or here: Tokes Investment Portal

Also, a couple of additional bonus items for investors:
  • Investment with Waves receives a 5% bonus in TOKES at distribution
  • The Tokes Referral Program: accessible through the ICO portal, every friend you refer that invests recieves a 2.5% bonus on their purchase, and you receive 2.5% of their purchase as a reward for referring them

Really looking forward to kicking off the crowdfund. As always, reach out with any questions!

   
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... and we are officially LIVE.   Grin

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... and we are officially LIVE.   Grin

Congrats, your design of op is bad, I spend 5 minutes to find the website... Also, is there a link to see the fund situation, like escrow address?

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Looking forward to the launch of this!

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A note for anyone making an investment with Waves - the API right now is being pulled from a lite node and can be a bit flaky, so your transaction might not show up immediately in the ICO portal, but you can be assured that all transactions on the blockchain will be accounted for at close. We're in the process of transitioning over to a full node soon, and expect a more responsive interface at that time.

   
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December 02, 2016, 04:15:03 AM
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what is the current status of this crowdsale, will this project be similar to cannabiscoin?

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December 02, 2016, 07:31:13 AM
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what is the current status of this crowdsale, will this project be similar to cannabiscoin?

Hi frostynug! Crowdsale is now LIVE. The project has some substantial differences to other cannabis-based coins. First and foremost, we're not simply targeting a digital currency. We're building an entire platform and application that will provide value for both businesses and customers in the industry. Secondly, we're undertaking a tangible terrestrial enterprise that will generate revenue and support the efforts of the platform and technology. More details available in the whitepaper Here



Also, 16 hours remaining in the bonus round.

   
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December 02, 2016, 07:44:04 PM
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Under six hours left in the bonus phase.  Be sure to take advantage of the WAVES deposit 5% bonus!

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December 02, 2016, 07:48:28 PM
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How you create token then i cant create?

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December 02, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
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Just wanted to jump in with a quick daily update on the project. We've had some great internal discussions on direction of the project as well as some early development on the mobile application.


Mobile Platform

The mobile platform is designed to serve as both a portable tokes wallet, as well as a database with various cannabis related nuggets of information. One of the big challenges we face, in cryptocurrency as a whole, but also within our project, will the the onramps/offramps between fiat currency and the digital currency. One advantage we see to building on top of the Waves Platform is the potential for fiat gateways to increase accessibility into digital assets. However, pending a delay on those gateways, I've already opened a discussion on how we can incorporate a direct bank-to-tokes transaction. We feel it will be incredibly important for the standard cannabis enthusiast to utilize the currency, without the need to go through the sometimes difficult road of acquiring btc, transferring to an exchange, and converting to tokes, just to be able to spend it at dispensaries. We are working through the technical components of getting cash to btc, but we feel we can easily facilitate the transfer to tokes using a partner app like shapeshift. Finally, we have some early development work on UX/UI being completed, and we're hopeful to release some mockups for this content in the next week.



Merchant Adoption

We've initiated conversations with all of the dispensaries local to us in Las Vegas to discuss the platform and early acceptance of tokes as a form of payment. We're seeing some mutual value due to the promotional benefits they could receive by signing on to the project, so we're optimistic on getting some agreements on early adoption. Part of this initiative is going to be assisting the dispensaries with accepting tokes, through both educational efforts as well as technological assistance. Our solution to the technology problem is a subsidy provided to those dispensaries that sign on to the project via a hardware package. With much broader adoption of tablet tech for POS systems, we plan on procuring a large supply of devices with the Tokes Platform app preloaded, which we can provide to the dispensaries free of charge. To this end, if you are a dispensary that would be interested in taking advantage of this offer, please reach out to me at michael@tokesplatform.org



Marketing

We're working on getting some additional press releases out, as well as cross promotion with Incent and Waves. We also just inked a deal with the folks at BraveNewCoin to enhance our exposure through their media outlets. Keep an eye out for some promotional materials to come from them. We still need to enhance our presence in both the crypto-space as well as exposure to cannabis enthusiasts. We're looking for some additional adoption on the social media campaigns as well. If you think you can help out in these areas, please reach out to TokesPlatform here on BCT with info.

We'll be providing project updates here as items develop. Thanks for all the support!

And finally, approximately 4 hours remaining on the 24 hour bonus period. Some great benefits to getting in at this stage.

   
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December 02, 2016, 10:59:20 PM
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Final reminder, 1 hour remaining in bonus round Smiley

   
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December 03, 2016, 03:49:39 AM
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Final reminder, 1 hour remaining in bonus round Smiley

BONUS PHASE - COMPLETED!

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So they asking for money to establish their own weed business.

But right now, they don't even want to concentrate on the key axis of their business- the WEED.

need 5 million dollars first.

sure.

let me get my bitcorns.....



"It's important to remember that we're undertaking a huge initiative here. Our objective is to create a tangible cannabis enterprise that supports the tokes platform and tokes digital currency. That's more than most cryptocurrency projects can claim. We need to be strategic in our utilization of human resources. Having a botanist on the team at this stage is not realistic. After funding and procurement of licenses and facilities we'll undertake team building. That would include bringing on any specialists necessary to facilitate the growth of our operation." - KOV

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Added exposure through icocountdown.com - more to come.

   
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December 03, 2016, 06:51:24 PM
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Added exposure through icocountdown.com - more to come.

kov, i sent you a message about the spanish traslation, did you read it?  Huh

   
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December 03, 2016, 06:52:35 PM
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Asked about some things on incent thread, seems it was unnoticed by incentDev, will post it here as well:
@J_TokesPlatform, @incentDev

Please check on Tokes platform several issues:
- can't delete same waves address which was added accidentally 2 times
- connection to waves full nodes, seems like it's not done and waves transactions are not shown



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December 03, 2016, 08:32:39 PM
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Added exposure through icocountdown.com - more to come.

kov, i sent you a message about the spanish traslation, did you read it?  Huh

Hi soloasi - just sent you a response.


Asked about some things on incent thread, seems it was unnoticed by incentDev, will post it here as well:
@J_TokesPlatform, @incentDev

Please check on Tokes platform several issues:
- can't delete same waves address which was added accidentally 2 times
- connection to waves full nodes, seems like it's not done and waves transactions are not shown




Thanks c1oud. We're aware of this issue, and it's something Peter is working on resolving. All transactions on the blockchain are secure and will be properly accounted for. You'll receive credit based on the time you invested, so you won't be missing out on any bonuses or early round investment rewards. This appears to be an issue with the Waves API at the moment, but Peter believes this will largely be resolved by implementing the full node. We're keeping people posted on this in our slack channel. Feel free to stop by if you have further questions.

   
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December 04, 2016, 03:12:59 AM
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Stickers coming to a storefront near you...  as we're working on some partnerships with Las Vegas dispensaries.

This is our take on the "Bitcoin Accepted Here" logo... Thoughts?







   
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December 05, 2016, 02:38:15 PM
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If for some reason you also won't reach the 5Million initial marketcap, will the project still run or would the team rather distribute refunds?
People were regretful with what happen to some ICO that weren't very successful namely Inchain to which it would be have been good if they reached the minimum of $5Million.

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If for some reason you also won't reach the 5Million initial marketcap, will the project still run or would the team rather distribute refunds?
People were regretful with what happen to some ICO that weren't very successful namely Inchain to which it would be have been good if they reached the minimum of $5Million.

We're realistically looking at $50,000 minimum to fund effort on the platform, which we essentially raised on day one of the ICO. However, our operation and application are scalable to the amount of funds we raise, so our production is only limited to capital. As an example, we can begin work on the mobile app on the technology side, and ingredient preparation for the CBD product we alluded to in the whitepaper at $50K. If we raise or exceed $5MM, we'll be able to look at full functioning grow operation through license or business acquisition. However, each 'tier' of capital we meet gives us higher potential in both facets of our project. I'll look into putting together an infographic on this subject, as it's come up a few times.

   
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December 05, 2016, 06:06:58 PM
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Stickers coming to a storefront near you...  as we're working on some partnerships with Las Vegas dispensaries.

This is our take on the "Bitcoin Accepted Here" logo... Thoughts?









Anyone interested in receiving a few of these stickers in the mail (U.S. only - sorry), post a reply to this thread or send us a message on twitter @tokesplatform and let us know how you take tokes! We'll be in touch for some mailing instructions and ship them off.

   
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December 06, 2016, 01:04:16 AM
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Stickers coming to a storefront near you...  as we're working on some partnerships with Las Vegas dispensaries.

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Anyone interested in receiving a few of these stickers in the mail (U.S. only - sorry), post a reply to this thread or send us a message on twitter @tokesplatform and let us know how you take tokes! We'll be in touch for some mailing instructions and ship them off.

What do you mean US only? why's this?

   
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December 06, 2016, 01:32:43 AM
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Anyone interested in receiving a few of these stickers in the mail (U.S. only - sorry), post a reply to this thread or send us a message on twitter @tokesplatform and let us know how you take tokes! We'll be in touch for some mailing instructions and ship them off.

What do you mean US only? why's this?


We are planning on covering the mailing cost on the stickers, so we'd like to keep delivery to the U.S. If you're interested and live in another country, and don't mind paying the shipping costs, we're happy to send them to you as well  Smiley

   
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December 06, 2016, 01:33:41 AM
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This sounds like an ICO I can groove with.
What is the money going to be used for and who'll be holding it?
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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

Why are you worrying about escrow? I can bet the people you are dealing with have been vetted  fully , they have incent and the waves platform behind them, that's escrow enough for me

   
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December 06, 2016, 02:01:06 AM
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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

Why are you worrying about escrow? I can bet the people you are dealing with have been vetted  fully , they have incent and the waves platform behind them, that's escrow enough for me

No escrow no go my friend!

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where do i register my participation in the sig bounty campaign?

   
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December 06, 2016, 02:02:34 AM
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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

Why are you worrying about escrow? I can bet the people you are dealing with have been vetted  fully , they have incent and the waves platform behind them, that's escrow enough for me

No escrow no go my friend!



There is escrow though:

Q: Will there be an escrow service on the ICO?

Yes. We're utilizing a 3-party mutli-sig wallet with two independent third-party signatories. The escrow signatories include, Fran Strajnar - Co-Founder and CEO of Brave New Coin, and Collin Crypto - the second highest ranked escrow on BitRated.com. All bitcoin contributions and altcoin contributions processed through our shapeshift plugin will be managed under this escrow. Because Waves does not yet have this functionality built in, Waves contributions will not be managed under this escrow agreement, but held in trust directly by the Tokes Platform team.


edit: plus you should rethink your position check out the estimates for the growth of the cannabis industry. Tokes can be a first mover of its kind in this market. Tokes can fill many needs within this ever expanding industry. Cannabis is going to be huge. Just go and check on some of the things it can do and the place it can take in society from where it is now.

   
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December 06, 2016, 06:49:18 AM
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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

Why are you worrying about escrow? I can bet the people you are dealing with have been vetted  fully , they have incent and the waves platform behind them, that's escrow enough for me

No escrow no go my friend!



There is escrow though:

Q: Will there be an escrow service on the ICO?

Yes. We're utilizing a 3-party mutli-sig wallet with two independent third-party signatories. The escrow signatories include, Fran Strajnar - Co-Founder and CEO of Brave New Coin, and Collin Crypto - the second highest ranked escrow on BitRated.com. All bitcoin contributions and altcoin contributions processed through our shapeshift plugin will be managed under this escrow. Because Waves does not yet have this functionality built in, Waves contributions will not be managed under this escrow agreement, but held in trust directly by the Tokes Platform team.


edit: plus you should rethink your position check out the estimates for the growth of the cannabis industry. Tokes can be a first mover of its kind in this market. Tokes can fill many needs within this ever expanding industry. Cannabis is going to be huge. Just go and check on some of the things it can do and the place it can take in society from where it is now.


Cheers.  Cool

   
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December 06, 2016, 07:47:58 AM
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kov , sent you a PM today morning about the traslation, take a look and let me know Smiley

   
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i like this coin i think its a the best scam of 2016 ...i will invest 25 BTC
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USD and BTC pegging = 100% scam

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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

Why are you worrying about escrow? I can bet the people you are dealing with have been vetted  fully , they have incent and the waves platform behind them, that's escrow enough for me

incent and waves are complete crap. SWAP THEM FOR PUNZ TODAY.

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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

Why are you worrying about escrow? I can bet the people you are dealing with have been vetted  fully , they have incent and the waves platform behind them, that's escrow enough for me

incent and waves are complete crap. SWAP THEM FOR PUNZ TODAY.

Hello Troll !
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Sorry if this has been asked before but are any of the escrow confirmed thier involvement already?
Chronobank had sasha ivanov of waves as escrow, you should have involved him since your token will run on their network.

Why are you worrying about escrow? I can bet the people you are dealing with have been vetted  fully , they have incent and the waves platform behind them, that's escrow enough for me

incent and waves are complete crap. SWAP THEM FOR PUNZ TODAY.

Hello Troll !

Hey scammer. Mad that I expose your scam coins? Pegging = scam (check every pegged coin so far for proof). Inchain was scam, they got exposed and then offered refunds, many didnt get refund or got refund during dip of eth, many btc refund never came back like mine. Scams! So what were u saying? Troll does not hurt me.

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This is the co founder : a model ? Shocked

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