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March 07, 2017, 09:22:42 PM
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Just putting this immediate response out, copy-and-paste from our slack. I'll be providing a more detailed response shortly. The bottom line is that we have all investor transaction information, and we'll be exchanging the initial tokes asset with a new one of the same name, on waves.

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I'll be making some public statements soon. The essence is that we had a phone call yesterday to discuss wrapping up the remaining distributions, along with the balance of the reserve account. In addition to an initial 5btc payment to them, and a 3 btc escrow payment, we had initially discussed a 5btc closing payment. However, given their negligence in execution on our token sale, I sought to negotiate different terms on that final payment

[10:31] 
If you invested with us, you're quite familiar with some of the inadequacies of their ICO portal and the execution of the distribution

[10:32] 
We will be recreating the asset on waves, with the same name, but under a new asset ID. Waves was designed to do this natively, and in fact it is possible to create duplicates of any asset on the chain.

[10:33] 
We have the database of investor transactions, so we'll be re-issuing the new asset to our investors as an immediate priority

[10:33] 
Any and all future exchange listings will be based on the new asset ID



'..recreating the asset on waves, with the same name, but under a new asset ID' , as theres not open the exchanger on WAVES wallets yet i wonder what this means, like a swap? but keeping the same name and changing the ID (dont know the ID on waves chain mean :/)?

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March 07, 2017, 10:19:26 PM
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And a repost from Incent thread for the sake of completeness. I think this is a very reasonable response given the agreement that existed.

Michael,

To be clear, the very first time you expressed any discontent to me whatsoever, with either our product or our support was yesterday, during a call in which you asked that we accept settlement in Tokes 'because you hadn't raised what you had hoped'. The inference being that we should share the impact of an aspect of your ICO for which we had no responsibility.

Settlement in Tokes is not acceptable to me because it is not what we agreed in our MOA - since which we have enabled your ICO with IP, server and technical support, to the best of our ability, over an extended period, in the best of faith.

Since you are not, after the fact, prepared to settle on what we agreed, I am not happy to continue to expend our finite resources in supporting you. This should not surprise you.

Notwithstanding, if I understand your post correctly, you now intend to re-issue the Tokes asset from scratch. This strikes me as nuts and doing so will distract your team and burn your community.

While I have my own view on your behaviour in this matter, I'm entirely happy to forward all remaining Tokes to an address of your nomination.

Sincerely,

Rob W.
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March 07, 2017, 10:44:51 PM
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And a repost from Incent thread for the sake of completeness. I think this is a very reasonable response given the agreement that existed.


Perhaps reasonable, but also inaccurate. However, since Rob has extended a resolution to the issue, I'd prefer to accept that offering and continue dedicating our efforts to the project initiatives.

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March 08, 2017, 12:17:38 AM
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March 08, 2017, 06:41:44 AM
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How very unprofessional of you to bring private business matters and complaints into a public forum.  This is something that could have and should have been handled privately. 
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How very unprofessional of you to bring private business matters and complaints into a public forum.  This is something that could have and should have been handled privately. 

I tend to agree with you - KOV shot himself and TOKES in the foot on this one.  Smart thinking KOV.


                                                   
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March 08, 2017, 01:42:24 PM
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How very unprofessional of you to bring private business matters and complaints into a public forum.  This is something that could have and should have been handled privately. 

Yep, no need for that at all.

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March 08, 2017, 04:11:41 PM
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How very unprofessional of you to bring private business matters and complaints into a public forum.  This is something that could have and should have been handled privately. 

Yep, no need for that at all.

I disagree.  I think he did right to post it in public as it's a significant event.  Folks should know what's happening, like me.
Kov did the right thing. 

Now to move forward, what should he do.
Some suggestions:
1. Do what he said, recreate / reissue TOKES through waves, but why when creating Tokens through Ethereum is so easy.
2. Refund everyone and redo the ICO.
3. Redo the ICO through Ethereum.  With ethereum, you can easily create any token you want.

I think it's best for the community and because partnering with Incent had failed, it's best to do a full refund.  Then move forward and redo a new ICO through Ethereum. 
Acknowledge and take responsiblity that because Incent didn't work out, this is the best path forward.

Same thing with Etheroll.  They refunded everyone with their failed ICO and months later, did a NEW ICO because of the DAO failure.  Because they did that, folks see it as credible and the right thing to do and trustworthy.  The NEW ICO they did was even more successful. 

When folks see you to be trustyworthy and doing the right thing, people will take part. 
 
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March 08, 2017, 04:18:41 PM
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How very unprofessional of you to bring private business matters and complaints into a public forum.  This is something that could have and should have been handled privately.  

Yep, no need for that at all.

I disagree.  I think he did right to post it in public as it's a significant event.  Folks should know what's happening, like me.
Kov did the right thing.  

Now to move forward, what should he do.
Some suggestions:
1. Do what he said, recreate / reissue TOKES through waves, but why when creating Tokens through Ethereum is so easy.
2. Refund everyone and redo the ICO.
3. Redo the ICO through Ethereum.  With ethereum, you can easily create any token you want.

I think it's best for the community and because partnering with Incent had failed, it's best to do a full refund.  Then move forward and redo a new ICO through Ethereum.  
Acknowledge and take responsiblity that because Incent didn't work out, this is the best path forward.

Same thing with Etheroll.  They refunded everyone with their failed ICO and months later, did a NEW ICO because of the DAO failure.  Because they did that, folks see it as credible and the right thing to do and trustworthy.  The NEW ICO they did was even more successful.  

When folks see you to be trustyworthy and doing the right thing, people will take part.  
  

team can't do that anymore, they already sent some tokes out.  i once oppose the team for not distributing after the ico all but seeing what happened i guess its not their fault after all.
if the people agree, i'd send back mine too for the RE-ICO.

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Tokes need a bigger exchange to get more high value for each token. It's backed by trillion dollars industry and dev team have clear vision about the future of this project.

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March 08, 2017, 07:30:29 PM
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How very unprofessional of you to bring private business matters and complaints into a public forum.  This is something that could have and should have been handled privately.  

I think a few people are a bit confused on the order of events. My reply was in response to a public comment from the Incent team.


More importantly though, they did send us the remaining balance of the tokes from asset creation, so re-recreating the asset will not be necessary. We're simply ceasing the relationship with their ICO management portal. This just means that we'll internally manage the remaining distributions. We have the user data required to do so, so it's just a matter of communicating with those individuals.


If you're looking for information about the status of your account formerly on the portal, please reach out to us directly at support@tokesplatform.org or in slack.

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I hope Tokes team and Incent team will be able to solve the problem, i think I think it's just lack of communication.
We always support Tokes project!

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I hope Tokes team and Incent team will be able to solve the problem, i think I think it's just lack of communication.
We always support Tokes project!


Thank you sulec70. The issue has essentially been resolved, and we're both moving forward with our respective paths.

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I hope Tokes team and Incent team will be able to solve the problem, i think I think it's just lack of communication.
We always support Tokes project!


Thank you sulec70. The issue has essentially been resolved, and we're both moving forward with our respective paths.

but when tokes entry bitrex dev?

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March 09, 2017, 08:10:31 PM
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I hope Tokes team and Incent team will be able to solve the problem, i think I think it's just lack of communication.
We always support Tokes project!


Thank you sulec70. The issue has essentially been resolved, and we're both moving forward with our respective paths.

good to know it, because INCENT price is going down the hill.  Sad

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Bounty distributions have now gone out. You'll want to check the 'Portfolio' tab of the Waves Lite wallet, where you'll see 'tokes' listed as an asset. Incent bonuses for ICO contributors will be coming out soon.

How big were the bounties? Someone told he / she managed to receive up to 30 btc in one transaction which made me wondering where that charity thing was coming from. Who was funding fairly huge giveaways and how deep were their pockets?

30btc bounties haha...

30 btc bounties ha... Cheesy

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Bounty distributions have now gone out. You'll want to check the 'Portfolio' tab of the Waves Lite wallet, where you'll see 'tokes' listed as an asset. Incent bonuses for ICO contributors will be coming out soon.

How big were the bounties? Someone told he / she managed to receive up to 30 btc in one transaction which made me wondering where that charity thing was coming from. Who was funding fairly huge giveaways and how deep were their pockets?

30btc bounties haha...

30 btc bounties ha... Cheesy

really? nice! despite the ICO result tokes is more generous than Chronobank which collected more than $5Million. 30 BTC is just too huge though, it sure would affect the market when these users dumped them all at once. A buy walls perhaps is going to be a good in this case.

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March 10, 2017, 02:31:04 AM
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I hope Tokes team and Incent team will be able to solve the problem, i think I think it's just lack of communication.
We always support Tokes project!


Thank you sulec70. The issue has essentially been resolved, and we're both moving forward with our respective paths.

but when tokes entry bitrex dev?

only need 3 BTC to enter exchange bitrex


This is actually not true. We had an in depth discussion with Bill while he was out on a trip to Vegas. We're quite optimistic about a listing, but what would be extremely helpful is if everyone could help promote Bittrex by making tokes listing requests on social media and in their slack. If you have a minute to post on twitter and express your interest in having us listed, we'd appreciate that.

That said, I have to say I was extremely impressed with the high ethics Bill and team bring to the crypto community. It's unfortunate that there is so much fraud and manipulation in these markets, but it really put my mind at ease to understand more about how they professionally operate.

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March 10, 2017, 06:07:48 AM
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Bounty distributions have now gone out. You'll want to check the 'Portfolio' tab of the Waves Lite wallet, where you'll see 'tokes' listed as an asset. Incent bonuses for ICO contributors will be coming out soon.

How big were the bounties? Someone told he / she managed to receive up to 30 btc in one transaction which made me wondering where that charity thing was coming from. Who was funding fairly huge giveaways and how deep were their pockets?

30btc bounties haha...

30 btc bounties ha... Cheesy


I've mentioned this before, but the '30 btc bounty' claim is false. We distributed about 14,000 tokes in bounties.

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March 10, 2017, 08:25:46 AM
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Bounty distributions have now gone out. You'll want to check the 'Portfolio' tab of the Waves Lite wallet, where you'll see 'tokes' listed as an asset. Incent bonuses for ICO contributors will be coming out soon.

How big were the bounties? Someone told he / she managed to receive up to 30 btc in one transaction which made me wondering where that charity thing was coming from. Who was funding fairly huge giveaways and how deep were their pockets?

30btc bounties haha...

30 btc bounties ha... Cheesy


I've mentioned this before, but the '30 btc bounty' claim is false. We distributed about 14,000 tokes in bounties.

this is lol 30 btc bounty to distribution
if you are already taking medication

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