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April 03, 2017, 04:36:21 PM
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I bought boosters via PayPal and got my last payment on Febryuary 27th, since then I'm 2nd in the queue and waiting for bitcoin. It's been more than a month since then. I think Tomos has good intentions and he would pay if he could, but patience has a limit. I haven't opened a PayPal warning or done any thing, but just keep playing the game, but I will claim the money if the situation stays at the same point and there is no expectative to be paid. I would prefer the game keep running, and because of this I haven't done anything yet and for the moment I will keep playing. For the moment, not forever.
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April 03, 2017, 07:59:08 PM
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ok let's try to save the VirtualPub

however my paypal will stay for a long time in red numbers,
however i lost 1400$ for this moment
however ad networks giving me 'enough' funds to cover server hosting..
however some dumb people making it way harder

i invested another 400$ from my pocket and started one project (let's say investment project).. that generates 30-140 satoshis / minute but growing from hour to hour
every revenue i will earn will spend to pay at least few players on a daily basis
if it will revive ad network earnings, everything could be ok
but not tomorrow, not in 1 week

i hope at least 100-200 players will help me with my effort (effort = lots of hours i spent to find a way out from this situation, the time i not spent with my family [btw i dont know what is free time])

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April 03, 2017, 08:08:14 PM
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ok let's try to save the VirtualPub

however my paypal will stay for a long time in red numbers,
however i lost 1400$ for this moment
however ad networks giving me 'enough' funds to cover server hosting..
however some dumb people making it way harder

i invested another 400$ from my pocket and started one project (let's say investment project).. that generates 30-140 satoshis / minute but growing from hour to hour
every revenue i will earn will spend to pay at least few players on a daily basis
if it will revive ad network earnings, everything could be ok
but not tomorrow, not in 1 week

i hope at least 100-200 players will help me with my effort (effort = lots of hours i spent to find a way out from this situation, the time i not spent with my family [btw i dont know what is free time])

However, however.

You must not blame people who saw a high chance to earn with the chance you gave them.

Here's my suggestion.

1) Freeze withdrawals, point every user to this topic.
2) Write a post and explain what happened.
3) Get an average number of how much you're earning from your ads.
4) Each week, put as much money you can into repaying the users.
5) Reduce payouts by 5.
6) Increase payouts every now and then, and follow site's progression and not greedy people who're asking more. Pay as much you can pay.
7) Remove all bs "investment" options. That's a huge flag for any site. If you're allowing people earn x2-3 of what normal users can earn, math is simple, you're going down.
Cool Do not involve paypal with any bitcoin related project. You're lucky they didn't ban your account.

You wont come up with any kind of math which will sustain ANY "investment" sites.
I'm telling you this friendly. You're going from one mistake to a bigger mistake.

Main website has grown to 1.6+ million registered users who are focused on crypto. Working on a advertising network, which aims to attract millions and millions of crypto impressions. If you need more info, PM me.
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April 03, 2017, 08:23:54 PM
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ok let's try to save the VirtualPub

however my paypal will stay for a long time in red numbers,
however i lost 1400$ for this moment
however ad networks giving me 'enough' funds to cover server hosting..
however some dumb people making it way harder

i invested another 400$ from my pocket and started one project (let's say investment project).. that generates 30-140 satoshis / minute but growing from hour to hour
every revenue i will earn will spend to pay at least few players on a daily basis
if it will revive ad network earnings, everything could be ok
but not tomorrow, not in 1 week

i hope at least 100-200 players will help me with my effort (effort = lots of hours i spent to find a way out from this situation, the time i not spent with my family [btw i dont know what is free time])

However, however.

You must not blame people who saw a high chance to earn with the chance you gave them.

Here's my suggestion.

1) Freeze withdrawals, point every user to this topic.
2) Write a post and explain what happened.
3) Get an average number of how much you're earning from your ads.
4) Each week, put as much money you can into repaying the users.
5) Reduce payouts by 5.
6) Increase payouts every now and then, and follow site's progression and not greedy people who're asking more. Pay as much you can pay.
7) Remove all bs "investment" options. That's a huge flag for any site. If you're allowing people earn x2-3 of what normal users can earn, math is simple, you're going down.
Cool Do not involve paypal with any bitcoin related project. You're lucky they didn't ban your account.

You wont come up with any kind of math which will sustain ANY "investment" sites.
I'm telling you this friendly. You're going from one mistake to a bigger mistake.

hi mex,
thanks for your suggestions..
i not believe in ponzi "get 3.5% daily for a lifetime" pages (or double your bitcoins in 72 hours), my investments are based on my private business that i trust 1000%! Smiley
also i had great predictions in bitcoin price changes (that was 100% correct!!) where i planned to make first +40% from paypal deposits - but few days before BTC price drop when i planned to invest players deposits, first few "clever" paypal investors started to fuck with me..

this is a good lesson for me, never mix paypal with crypto.. Smiley

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April 03, 2017, 08:27:19 PM
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ok let's try to save the VirtualPub

however my paypal will stay for a long time in red numbers,
however i lost 1400$ for this moment
however ad networks giving me 'enough' funds to cover server hosting..
however some dumb people making it way harder

i invested another 400$ from my pocket and started one project (let's say investment project).. that generates 30-140 satoshis / minute but growing from hour to hour
every revenue i will earn will spend to pay at least few players on a daily basis
if it will revive ad network earnings, everything could be ok
but not tomorrow, not in 1 week

i hope at least 100-200 players will help me with my effort (effort = lots of hours i spent to find a way out from this situation, the time i not spent with my family [btw i dont know what is free time])

However, however.

You must not blame people who saw a high chance to earn with the chance you gave them.

Here's my suggestion.

1) Freeze withdrawals, point every user to this topic.
2) Write a post and explain what happened.
3) Get an average number of how much you're earning from your ads.
4) Each week, put as much money you can into repaying the users.
5) Reduce payouts by 5.
6) Increase payouts every now and then, and follow site's progression and not greedy people who're asking more. Pay as much you can pay.
7) Remove all bs "investment" options. That's a huge flag for any site. If you're allowing people earn x2-3 of what normal users can earn, math is simple, you're going down.
Cool Do not involve paypal with any bitcoin related project. You're lucky they didn't ban your account.

You wont come up with any kind of math which will sustain ANY "investment" sites.
I'm telling you this friendly. You're going from one mistake to a bigger mistake.

trust to mex, he is one of the best admin and very smart developer and has best faucets ever, i am earning with his faucets only and its quite enough for me, also i had never have any problem

many respect to mex...

good luck both of you
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April 03, 2017, 10:09:31 PM
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ok let's try to save the VirtualPub

however my paypal will stay for a long time in red numbers,
however i lost 1400$ for this moment
however ad networks giving me 'enough' funds to cover server hosting..
however some dumb people making it way harder

i invested another 400$ from my pocket and started one project (let's say investment project).. that generates 30-140 satoshis / minute but growing from hour to hour
every revenue i will earn will spend to pay at least few players on a daily basis
if it will revive ad network earnings, everything could be ok
but not tomorrow, not in 1 week

i hope at least 100-200 players will help me with my effort (effort = lots of hours i spent to find a way out from this situation, the time i not spent with my family [btw i dont know what is free time])

ok, i want to answer you again. i can wait, if you have a solid plan , but i'm not willing to hear always, that the users are the bastards. no, it's not. you offered a booster option and people used it (me included). i think you did many mistakes in your calculation. shit happens.
but than, you decided to do not answer questions, be offline for days, give a fuck about honest communication,... it s not a mistake of the the users to make disputes. they did, cause they lost their trust.
as you can see, i didn't do it as i said. and i will not do, if i can see that something positive gonna happen.
but do not tell me, it s our fail. my mistake was, to trust you too fast. i will not do it again in this way. but i like the site, i like the concept and i would like to use it. and i do not think, you want to scam people, but in fact users feel like this.
you have lost 1400$? maybe, but you lost it because of your miscalculating and your way to handle communication with your users. you feel fucked up by some users? they felt fucked up from you first, and you gave them reasons to feel so. ok. i will stop criticism here.

you said: "let`s try to save the virtualpub" - yes, ok. let us try. as far as i can, i will try to help. please read all the good advices, find a way to communicate when you are offline, when you will pay and how much. be honest with all this things, especially if something not work. than we all can work together, i think. and trust in you and the pub will rise again.

ok than, i hope for a nice working pub in future with an honest, trustworthy admin.

let s start.
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April 04, 2017, 01:30:39 AM
Last edit: April 04, 2017, 01:42:32 AM by Griwious
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My name is Craizy on the game. Grin
I like this game. I will keep clicking, thats my work.
Tomos81 if you need to take time for the payments, you can take it.
For me is the same...satoshis sitting in the game or in my wallet.
I wont open a paypal claim. I belive in this proyect and i will support
it untill it dies.
Remember players: the games dies when we stop playing
Tomos81 please let us know what is your plan on the chat, thanks in advance.
Long live Virtual Pop!!!
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April 04, 2017, 06:46:23 AM
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Well I have been here since the beginning of virtual pub and I like this game its not bother me to wait for the withdraws and yeah lets save this site and our efforts Smiley just we need to be patient and I am sure that Tomos could do it  Wink
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April 04, 2017, 10:25:49 AM
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Hi Tomos!
I am an "old" user of Mex's sites, and i discovered your game at the beginning too.
I can exactly say what Barslab wrote.
At the moment, i play my role of gamer, i don't mind about payment,
If you please, say what we must do in order to let your game alive. I am not the only one who understand that you have a real life, and real things to do. Try just to communicate with us.
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April 04, 2017, 01:00:09 PM
Last edit: April 04, 2017, 02:41:05 PM by Groath
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Agreed

Due the lack of communication current situation is so bad. IMHO more than due the lack of payments. Especially, when players have invest they money and was no info what exactly happens. This made angry most of us. This MUST be changed.

Unfortunatelly payments are important too. Half of active players is gone. If they will see payments from VirtualPub on FaucetHub accounts, MAYBE some of them go back. That is a reason, I wrote two times: Pay everyone his first pending withdraw. It was about 10% of current debt, and maybe twice more persons were click ads and popups last three weeks, generating twice bigger income.

Trust is a basic thing. Trust us then. Players are very random, but in general almost all try to help You. If game will fall, our income will fall either. We have sometimes good ideas.
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April 04, 2017, 03:00:23 PM
Last edit: April 04, 2017, 03:21:02 PM by mexicantarget
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I've got an offer/plan.

If the debt of the site is smaller than I believe it is, I'd like to offer 1 BTC to Tomos (for files/database), so he covers the biggest part of his personal loss. I'd be buying his entire debt.

Now, if this happened, I would pay 50% (100% of debt if it's less than I think it is) of all debt to the users, so they return back to the site (new domain), and would wipe all databases, so I can rework the reward formulas, remove all the deposit options and try fix what's broken.

Main website has grown to 1.6+ million registered users who are focused on crypto. Working on a advertising network, which aims to attract millions and millions of crypto impressions. If you need more info, PM me.
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April 04, 2017, 03:05:53 PM
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I agree with you.
The main problem is lack of communication from Tomos.

He comes here, says that some gamers are responsible for his insufficient funds to pay the rest of us and then, he disappears and the communication with him is just that.

He keeps blaming everyone for his failure, but him.

Unlike some of you, for me it's not the same to have my satos in pending withdraws or have them in my wallet.
I want to have them in my wallet and do with them what I want and when I want.
I worked hard for them... as all of us.

This situation is going from bad to worse and, I'm afraid it will not  get any better.
I don't know if I want to keep clicking in a game that does not give me anything in return... just promises to give.
I can't live like this, it's not my way to do things.

I'm willing to help VP and Tomos but I want some prove from him.
If, as he says, we have to trust him, then he have to gives us something. A prove of goodwill that he will pay.


Right now, what I fell is that I am clicking and clicking and the only person that have results from those clicks is Tomos.
He is the only one that receives something from those clicks.
So, from my point of view, I am working and someone is getting the pay.
I feel that someone is f.... me and I don't like it.

Grow up Tomos.
Take your head from the sand and face the facts and the people that are waiting for answers from you.
Give us a prove that you want to solve this.

PS - I think that I will have no reply... This is a very well thought plan in order that he keeps receiving from all our clicks and we will never see a cent.
       Hope I'm wrong. 

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April 04, 2017, 03:34:41 PM
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I've got an offer/plan.

If the debt of the site is smaller than I believe it is, I'd like to offer 1 BTC to Tomos (for files/database), so he covers the biggest part of his personal loss. I'd be buying his entire debt.

Now, if this happened, I would pay 50% (100% of debt if it's less than I think it is) of all debt to the users, so they return back to the site (new domain), and would wipe all databases, so I can rework the reward formulas, remove all the deposit options and try fix what's broken.



That's a very good business proposal from you Mex. I hope Tomos will do business with you.
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April 04, 2017, 03:47:15 PM
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I've got an offer/plan.

If the debt of the site is smaller than I believe it is, I'd like to offer 1 BTC to Tomos (for files/database), so he covers the biggest part of his personal loss. I'd be buying his entire debt.

Now, if this happened, I would pay 50% (100% of debt if it's less than I think it is) of all debt to the users, so they return back to the site (new domain), and would wipe all databases, so I can rework the reward formulas, remove all the deposit options and try fix what's broken.

A.) 50% of debt is (for player, who has buy booster and play 12h/d) ROI only. Where are income from 30d, 12h of clicks daily? Of course (if it's only way to rescue whole project) 100% ROI is much better than nothing.

B.) Your 1 BTC is (I understand) for Tomos, for his work. Super: his work is big. But where are payments from Ads and Shorteners? Boosters has give uncomparable profits, but our clicks was generate some profits too, I think. Tomos report even bigger loses in next posts. Why? We "working", he don't pay, why his loses are increasing? From 400, 1000 to 1400$.

I guess it's good time to explain a few things.

C.) Who will make next changes? You? Tomos? Some of them are urgent. Probably tommorow I'll reveal last implemented Invention. What after that? Many bigger and smaller bugs require fast intervention.



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April 04, 2017, 03:56:16 PM
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I've got an offer/plan.

If the debt of the site is smaller than I believe it is, I'd like to offer 1 BTC to Tomos (for files/database), so he covers the biggest part of his personal loss. I'd be buying his entire debt.

Now, if this happened, I would pay 50% (100% of debt if it's less than I think it is) of all debt to the users, so they return back to the site (new domain), and would wipe all databases, so I can rework the reward formulas, remove all the deposit options and try fix what's broken.

A.) 50% of debt is (for player, who has buy booster and play 12h/d) ROI only. Where are income from 30d, 12h of clicks daily? Of course (if it's only way to rescue whole project) 100% ROI is much better than nothing.

B.) Your 1 BTC is (I understand) for Tomos, for his work. Where are payments from Ads and Shorteners? Boosters has give uncomparable profits, but our clicks was generate some profits too, I think. Tomos report even bigger loses in next posts. Why? We "working", he don't pay, why his loses are increasing? From 400, 1000 to 1400$.

I guess it's good time to explain a few things.

C.) Who will make next changes? You? Tomos? Some of them are urgent. Probably tommorow I'll reveal last implemented Invention. What after that? Many bigger and smaller bugs require fast intervention.

A) I don't know, nor it's my business to be honest.
B) Yes, I'll be paying Tomos to sell me his project. He'll get 1 BTC and I take the site and his debt on me.
C) I just started learning programming, so I guess I could try and fix some bugs Smiley

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April 04, 2017, 04:15:03 PM
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A. I agree with You, CURRENTLY it's not Your business. But will be, if You will buy project and players will run away, due the lack of profits from 30d work.

B. You buy also profits from PTCs, from last 3-4 weeks? My question still haven't got answer.

C. Have You try to fix code created by someone else? Enjoy!
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every1 is complaining about my lack of communication - the time i spent, was 50% in the hospital with no internet, 10% family and 40% finding the way out from the debt

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April 04, 2017, 05:27:28 PM
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tomos, please resist the temptation to sell VP for 1 BTC.
My suggestion sent to you on PM was to start to pay even 1-2 members/week ,people needs payment proofs to see in order to stay active. The rest of the ad revenue goes to your debts on paypal negative balance. Later increase the number of weekly paid users from the pending list.
Also cut/remove any boosting options and limit inventions to 3 per player.
Stop creating new projects or to give 10 times more than can offer a faucet per claim since the launching. Even if you offer 2-3 times better than normal faucets is still perfect.
Traffic will not stay high permanently if you offer way more in the beginning and delaying payments later,traffic will improve if you pay constantly. Smiley

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April 04, 2017, 05:48:57 PM
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C) I just started learning programming, so I guess I could try and fix some bugs Smiley
Interesting... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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April 04, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
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tomos, please resist the temptation to sell VP for 1 BTC.
My suggestion sent to you on PM was to start to pay even 1-2 members/week ,people needs payment proofs to see in order to stay active. The rest of the ad revenue goes to your debts on paypal negative balance. Later increase the number of weekly paid users from the pending list.
Also cut/remove any boosting options and limit inventions to 3 per player.
Stop creating new projects or to give 10 times more than can offer a faucet per claim since the launching. Even if you offer 2-3 times better than normal faucets is still perfect.
Traffic will not stay high permanently if you offer way more in the beginning and delaying payments later,traffic will improve if you pay constantly. Smiley

i am in good way to change the owner of virtualpub and this fairytale will have happyend..
pending payments will be paid, everybody will be happy and i will be not scammer for some players, hopefully Wink

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