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October 26, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
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Everyone that was here from the start knows what great potential bitcoin had, what a great idea it was.
We also know the current price says nothing and is pure manipulation by a few big players.

My idea is to hard fork bitcoin for normal users and put the big manipulators out of play.
We can remake bitcoin to invalidate the first year of all bitcoin. This would take away hundreds of millions of get-rich-quick money from these manipulators that are trying to scam us out of our money.
It sounds like an extreme idea but cryptocurrencies can easily survive hard forks as we've seen over and over.
We NEED to get rid of these overly rich GREEDY manipulators in order to SAVE Bitcoin.
We also need a new team of motivated and intelligent developers that can address the flaws Bitcoin still suffers, as current development has pretty much halted.

Bitcoin still has so much potential.

What do you guys think, how would this work out?


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October 26, 2016, 01:10:31 PM
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the first year of bitcoin is what makes it unique. it was a totally open book. anyone could've got in on the ground floor. it was worthless. there'll never be another coin like that. all future ones are gonna be tainted by developer or investor greed. I agree that the current status quo is not ideal but one look at the alt market tells you all you need to know.
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October 26, 2016, 03:08:42 PM
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Sounds like a terrible idea. Let's leave hardforks to Ethereum  Grin

Yep, look at ethereum to get the idea of the future would await bitcoin after a fork.
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October 26, 2016, 03:40:34 PM
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This is the problem of the society, people always tend to reinvent the wheel even it is functioning fine. I am open to a hardfork but will never agree of it because of the reason OP had given.  Somehow I feel that OP is jealous of the early adopters of bitcoin, and trying to strip them of their wealth because for you it is unfair to take risk when all others does not care about bitcoin during its first year is simply terrible.

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October 26, 2016, 03:49:44 PM
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Sounds like a terrible idea. Let's leave hardforks to Ethereum  Grin

Yep, look at ethereum to get the idea of the future would await bitcoin after a fork.

forks and whether it is hard fork or a soft fork, are not an scary thing. every program (code) goes through them, they change and evolve for the future.

but this doesn't mean you should jump the gun and fork it without doing proper tests. especially in something like bitcoin where millions of millions of dollar is involved.

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October 27, 2016, 03:30:27 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I love bitcoin dearly. In saying this I don't see bitcoin as the most used cryptocurrency going forward, I think it is more likely a big organization that is Pro-decentralization creates and heavily advertises a worldwide cryptocurrency based on bitcoin with that becoming instantly extremely popular and eventually overtaking it in popularity based on its "Fairer" start etc.


there will never be a "fair" commodity that is scarce as wsell
nothing can stop wealthy millionaires or billionaires buying more than the average joe
and so it would be a waste of time to strip the early whales because there would just be new whales

most of the people who had btc back in 2009 are probably already cashed out all or most of it ,with the exception of
the satoshi coins from that era  that have never moved and might never move at all .........

I agree to an extent. Fair is not the right word for the situation but I will use it anyway as I can't think of a better word. If a new currency came and the wealthy became whales wouldnt this be "Fairer" than the lucky couple of people who stumbled across bitcoin early?

I'd agree with what you are saying if bitcoin popularity encompassed a financial revolution redefining who is rich in the world. I don't see this as happening atleast in the next 5 years meaning to me it IS fair that the rich will have more BTC as that is how our current system works.

If the rich and the powerful in this world really wanted btc already they would just buy it all up....
Some Russian Billionaires could snap it all up and the needs from the start of bitcoin would cum in their shorts and dump whatever they're holding.... (if that hasn't already happened)

Try not to forget that some people cashed out their entire stack when btc hit $1, $10 etc and still ended up millionaires..

There is probably not many people left from 2009 when btc were 3 for a penny who haven't cashed already
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October 27, 2016, 06:14:49 AM
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i just find the idea of OP ridiculous.  Jealous and self centered opinion.  It would be reasonable if the fork will somehow improve bitcoin performance like instant confirmation and other stuff that make it mass friendly.  Forking it because you think it is unfair for the early adopter to get wealthy just by adopting it and not spending that large amount of money seems irrational.  I bet OP would have a different point of view if he is the one of those early adopter that holds hundred of thousand of bitcoin in his stash.
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October 27, 2016, 07:16:03 AM
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i just find the idea of OP ridiculous.  Jealous and self centered opinion.  It would be reasonable if the fork will somehow improve bitcoin performance like instant confirmation and other stuff that make it mass friendly.  Forking it because you think it is unfair for the early adopter to get wealthy just by adopting it and not spending that large amount of money seems irrational.  I bet OP would have a different point of view if he is the one of those early adopter that holds hundred of thousand of bitcoin in his stash.
Probably  he would say  different thing if hes included to those  early adoptors   who  hold  huge amounts of  bitcoin. Hes saying    these  things right now because  he  missed the  boat  on which  the bitcoin is  just  been  starting that's  why  its a little bit selfish words here  from OP.
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October 27, 2016, 08:11:10 AM
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Fake OP.

Kwuckduck writes in this post as if he cares about bitcoin and wants to 'help' it, when in fact his real agenda is to fight or undermine it.

Kwucky just do it,  you won't need to fork, just rebrand and relaunch. You won't find anyone wanting to buy your kwuckcoin though.
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October 27, 2016, 08:52:24 AM
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I am not sure how you could even scratch the first year without damaging the subsequent years as well? History builds upon itself, just like the blockchain builds upon the genesis block. Some coins generated in the first year could have been spent thousands of times over and some newbie may even be holding them today. To scratch these particular coins you have to rewrite not just the first year but everything till today.
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October 27, 2016, 09:35:59 AM
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This is the problem of the society, people always tend to reinvent the wheel even it is functioning fine. I am open to a hardfork but will never agree of it because of the reason OP had given.  Somehow I feel that OP is jealous of the early adopters of bitcoin, and trying to strip them of their wealth because for you it is unfair to take risk when all others does not care about bitcoin during its first year is simply terrible.

You can't fix what is not broken, but you can still break it while trying to fix what you think is broken. I certainly agree that the OP may be feeling jealous of the profits the early adopters are reaping now, though I don't think that they were actually taking serious risks. In fact, I think that most of them were just lucky to turn up in the right place at the right time and make the right choice. And I have a suspicion as well that this alone would make the OP even more jealous.
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November 23, 2016, 02:03:38 PM
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    Why hard fork?  I propose that would be better on Monday when markets open all of us to give orders to sell our coins so bitcoin price will crash. In this way greedy sharks lose much money but we only lose a few like as gambling in online casino. Apparently, I am joking.
 
    I strongly disagree with OP idea. There are not only big players but everyday people around the world. Doing something like that, nobody in the world except some hobbyists, will ever trust any cryptocurrency again. Fiat money will win without to do anything. Bankers all over the world, those are bigger and greedier than big players of bitcoin aren’t they, will laugh with huge bitcoin foolishness.
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November 27, 2016, 03:12:27 AM
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If we mess with bitcoin, then nobody will trust it anymore. It's hard enough now to get people to invest in it now. Why do we want to scare new people away from it?

 
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