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November 24, 2016, 06:02:01 PM
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It seems to me that Putin's propaganda warned the Russian that winning Trump in the election is the victory of Russia over America. Here Russian and rejoice in the fact that they suddenly become a super power.
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November 24, 2016, 06:45:47 PM
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Putin even brings in the Russians sense a great nation. I think it is very dangerous. I once heard the theory that if Hitler had not attacked the USSR, the Soviets would attack him. This version was very well justified. I think that Putin imagines himself to Hitler.
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November 25, 2016, 01:57:49 PM
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From the news, I think USSR and USA foriegn policy is or will be restored. They believe in Trump Presidency that they are willing to open communication with their American counterpart. IMHO, it is a good sign and gesture.All o us wants peace.

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November 25, 2016, 02:36:48 PM
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This current administration does not currently have good relations with Russia, and neither would a Hillary presidency. I feel they are extremely relieved the new leader of the free world isn't aggressive towards them, and wants to promote peaceful discussion.

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November 25, 2016, 06:43:51 PM
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This current administration does not currently have good relations with Russia, and neither would a Hillary presidency. I feel they are extremely relieved the new leader of the free world isn't aggressive towards them, and wants to promote peaceful discussion.
And who negotiated with Russia knows that they can not be trusted. Very soon it will understand and Trump. We are talking about the fact that Russia always was is and will be the enemy of the United States. Only Trump I hope to be more decisive than Obama. It is not in the interests of Russia, and they rejoice.

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November 26, 2016, 07:42:32 AM
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Putin thinks it would be to his advantage to have Trump over Hillary..
I am guessing he feels the guys an idiot with no political experience.
So he would be easier to manipulate.

Putin vs Trump ? i put all my money on Putin ...he is one crafty bastard LOL

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November 26, 2016, 09:33:28 AM
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Putin thinks it would be to his advantage to have Trump over Hillary..
I am guessing he feels the guys an idiot with no political experience.
So he would be easier to manipulate.

Putin vs Trump ? i put all my money on Putin ...he is one crafty bastard LOL
Putin is not a cunning. He is arrogant and knows how to bribe politicians. Remember how Chancellor Schroeder lobbied for a pipeline from Russia and Europe, and then headed the Department in Gazprom? Now Europe is dependent on Russian gas.
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November 26, 2016, 01:05:17 PM
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Putin is not a cunning. He is arrogant and knows how to bribe politicians. Remember how Chancellor Schroeder lobbied for a pipeline from Russia and Europe, and then headed the Department in Gazprom? Now Europe is dependent on Russian gas.

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Putin is not a cunning. He is arrogant and knows how to bribe politicians. Remember how Chancellor Schroeder lobbied for a pipeline from Russia and Europe, and then headed the Department in Gazprom? Now Europe is dependent on Russian gas.

Europe is dependent on Russian gas because Russia offers the cheapest and most reliable supply of gas to the continent. The other options are either too expensive (LNG from Qatar and the United States), or unreliable (pipeline gas from Syria and Iran).
If Europe is to agree with America and discourage Syria, this situation will change. In General, the world is going to that soon gas would not be necessary, and Russia will lose its influence in Europe.
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Putin is not a cunning. He is arrogant and knows how to bribe politicians. Remember how Chancellor Schroeder lobbied for a pipeline from Russia and Europe, and then headed the Department in Gazprom? Now Europe is dependent on Russian gas.

Europe is dependent on Russian gas because Russia offers the cheapest and most reliable supply of gas to the continent. The other options are either too expensive (LNG from Qatar and the United States), or unreliable (pipeline gas from Syria and Iran).
If Europe is to agree with America and discourage Syria, this situation will change. In General, the world is going to that soon gas would not be necessary, and Russia will lose its influence in Europe.

It still doesn't answer the question. If the European Union "agrees" with the United States and "discourages" Syria, how is that going to bring cheap and reliable natural gas to the continent? The EU is one of the biggest consumers of natural gas, and it produces only a small part of that volume. The remaining is imported from abroad (including Russia, Maghreb, and Qatar).

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Putin is not a cunning. He is arrogant and knows how to bribe politicians. Remember how Chancellor Schroeder lobbied for a pipeline from Russia and Europe, and then headed the Department in Gazprom? Now Europe is dependent on Russian gas.

Europe is dependent on Russian gas because Russia offers the cheapest and most reliable supply of gas to the continent. The other options are either too expensive (LNG from Qatar and the United States), or unreliable (pipeline gas from Syria and Iran).
If Europe is to agree with America and discourage Syria, this situation will change. In General, the world is going to that soon gas would not be necessary, and Russia will lose its influence in Europe.

It still doesn't answer the question. If the European Union "agrees" with the United States and "discourages" Syria, how is that going to bring cheap and reliable natural gas to the continent? The EU is one of the biggest consumers of natural gas, and it produces only a small part of that volume. The remaining is imported from abroad (including Russia, Maghreb, and Qatar).
The gas pipeline from Syria through Italy can quite cope with this problem. Besides, there is a constant decline in gas consumption. Norway also produce a lot of gas.
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Answer is very simple.
Trump already said that he likes Putin, that he is ''great'' leader, that USA and Russia should become ''friends'' etc.
Such words are surely ''music'' for Russians.
Also, it seems that American military troops will leave Korea, Japan, Europe and left this countries helpless and without defense.
He will also cancel trade agreements with EU and Korea, Australia...
If I will be Putin, I will celebrate day and night because of such outcome in American presidential election.


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It seems to me that Putin's propaganda warned the Russian that winning Trump in the election is the victory of Russia over America. Here Russian and rejoice in the fact that they suddenly become a super power.
It because trump says that he like putin and they are going to be a great friend they are both psycopath kidding , they don't need to become enemy what is the reason if they going to be enemy is better to be friend and putin knows that trump help in any problem or matter on his country.

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Answer is very simple.
Trump already said that he likes Putin, that he is ''great'' leader, that USA and Russia should become ''friends'' etc.
Such words are surely ''music'' for Russians.
Also, it seems that American military troops will leave Korea, Japan, Europe and left this countries helpless and without defense.
He will also cancel trade agreements with EU and Korea, Australia...
If I will be Putin, I will celebrate day and night because of such outcome in American presidential election.


If you were Putin, you'd know that the Republicans are always worse toward Russia. I think Putin's advisers have calculated the victory Trump. Putin is trying to use this situation to improve their rankings. It will not be long. Prior to the inauguration Trump.
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Because now they have another puppet to play with.
TRUMP thinks he has the upper hand with Russia and Putin but he should think again.
Putin has been doing this for years if not a decade now. So he knows all the tricks of the leadership trade and he should be mindfull of that.
Did you see Obama in the last and final meeting of him with the leaders. He was trying to Putin what he thought of what he was doing to his country. And Putin was like " Yeah, you are out of here soon, so just keep talking fool! I will do whatever the hell I want!""
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Because now they have another puppet to play with.
TRUMP thinks he has the upper hand with Russia and Putin but he should think again.
Putin has been doing this for years if not a decade now. So he knows all the tricks of the leadership trade and he should be mindfull of that.
Did you see Obama in the last and final meeting of him with the leaders. He was trying to Putin what he thought of what he was doing to his country. And Putin was like " Yeah, you are out of here soon, so just keep talking fool! I will do whatever the hell I want!""
And I'm sure nothing in relation to Russia will not change. Did you really think that Trump is versed in everything. It will be a lot of advisors who know what is Russia.
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The gas pipeline from Syria through Italy can quite cope with this problem. Besides, there is a constant decline in gas consumption. Norway also produce a lot of gas.

Syria does not produce enough gas, to export it to Europe. Also, Constructing such a gas pipeline will take a lot of time and it will be insanely expensive due to the difficulties in the terrain.

And regarding the gas consumption, it is increasing steeply rather than decreasing. The closure of nuclear power plants in Germany has helped this a lot. And the Norwegian gas production is steadily decreasing.

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The gas pipeline from Syria through Italy can quite cope with this problem. Besides, there is a constant decline in gas consumption. Norway also produce a lot of gas.

Syria does not produce enough gas, to export it to Europe. Also, Constructing such a gas pipeline will take a lot of time and it will be insanely expensive due to the difficulties in the terrain.

And regarding the gas consumption, it is increasing steeply rather than decreasing. The closure of nuclear power plants in Germany has helped this a lot. And the Norwegian gas production is steadily decreasing.
In Syria there is no problems with the terrain. Besides, next to Iran and Iraq. I do not think the problem will be to fill the pipeline. Moreover, demand for gas is falling in Europe. By 2030, the Nordic countries generally want to switch completely to alternative energy sources.
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The gas pipeline from Syria through Italy can quite cope with this problem. Besides, there is a constant decline in gas consumption. Norway also produce a lot of gas.

Syria does not produce enough gas, to export it to Europe. Also, Constructing such a gas pipeline will take a lot of time and it will be insanely expensive due to the difficulties in the terrain.

And regarding the gas consumption, it is increasing steeply rather than decreasing. The closure of nuclear power plants in Germany has helped this a lot. And the Norwegian gas production is steadily decreasing.
Now the Tesla cars are becoming more affordable. There is not a single big car company that does not produce its electric vehicles. I think that carbs will lose its relevance next 10 years.
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Now the Tesla cars are becoming more affordable. There is not a single big car company that does not produce its electric vehicles. I think that carbs will lose its relevance next 10 years.

May be in the next 30 years.... but definitely not in the next 10 years. Even now, the Tesla still costs at least 15 times more than a gasoline-run car with the same configuration. Very few people can afford a Tesla now.

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probably because unlike hillary clinton and half his republican opponents, trump isn't threatening them with ww3 for no reason

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Because Trump is in bed with Putin. Didn't you know? Roll Eyes
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probably because unlike hillary clinton and half his republican opponents, trump isn't threatening them with ww3 for no reason
If the Germans supported Trump, then I understand why he did not like. I would hope that if a recount it turned out that there were falsifications, and Hillary still have a chance.
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Russian rejoice because Putin's propaganda inspired them, against the wishes of the Americans, he imposes them Trump. They really believe that in this way they defeated America.
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I did not notice much joy from Russia that defeated Trump. Yes, Putin congratulated him on his victory. But this is just a friendly gesture. This does not mean that Russia will now work with the US
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Russian rejoice because Putin's propaganda inspired them, against the wishes of the Americans, he imposes them Trump. They really believe that in this way they defeated America.

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Putin endorses Trump because Trump want's to fix the relationship with Russia. Why would you want to have an enemy like Russia if you can befriend them? And also Trump doesn't want to start a war with Russia like Clinton.

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Russian rejoice because Putin's propaganda inspired them, against the wishes of the Americans, he imposes them Trump. They really believe that in this way they defeated America.

I've made a tin foil cap for you, where shoudl I mail it to?

Putin endorses Trump because Trump want's to fix the relationship with Russia. Why would you want to have an enemy like Russia if you can befriend them? And also Trump doesn't want to start a war with Russia like Clinton.

Fully supported. I also very much hope that these two powerful countries finally become friends. This will be beneficial to many.
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Putin thinks it would be to his advantage to have Trump over Hillary..
I am guessing he feels the guys an idiot with no political experience.
So he would be easier to manipulate.

Putin vs Trump ? i put all my money on Putin ...he is one crafty bastard LOL

Exactly, I feel the same. The Russians must be feeling that Trump lacks political experience and background and
he can be easily manipulated.
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From the news, I think USSR and USA foriegn policy is or will be restored. They believe in Trump Presidency that they are willing to open communication with their American counterpart. IMHO, it is a good sign and gesture.All o us wants peace.
Yeah according to the news that I watch Putin want to renew their cooperation to the US .And Putin wants to know how the billionaire run his country.

                       
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It seems to me that Putin's propaganda warned the Russian that winning Trump in the election is the victory of Russia over America. Here Russian and rejoice in the fact that they suddenly become a super power.
They're thinking that Trump are going to help puttin in all the problems in Russian country after trump wins the election of course they know Trump is not againts with Russian people and people of russian know's that puttin and trump are going to be bestfriend.
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Trump has been changing most of the things he said before elections and I can't wait to see how things unfold, especially what steps he will take to set the relationship of USA with Russia as well as China.









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Trump has been changing most of the things he said before elections and I can't wait to see how things unfold, especially what steps he will take to set the relationship of USA with Russia as well as China.

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Trump has been changing most of the things he said before elections and I can't wait to see how things unfold, especially what steps he will take to set the relationship of USA with Russia as well as China.

He has moderated his stance on some controversial issues, such as illegal immigration. But there has been no abrupt U-turns. As of now, I expect him to keep most of his campaign promises, no matter how much the liberal losers riot against him.

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Trump has been changing most of the things he said before elections and I can't wait to see how things unfold, especially what steps he will take to set the relationship of USA with Russia as well as China.

He has moderated his stance on some controversial issues, such as illegal immigration. But there has been no abrupt U-turns. As of now, I expect him to keep most of his campaign promises, no matter how much the liberal losers riot against him.
I think that after the scandal with the telephone conversation with the President of Taiwan, he will be careful. He's acting like a showman, and such a policy is not permissible. In addition, American policy towards Russia is even tougher.

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Trump has been changing most of the things he said before elections and I can't wait to see how things unfold, especially what steps he will take to set the relationship of USA with Russia as well as China.

He has moderated his stance on some controversial issues, such as illegal immigration. But there has been no abrupt U-turns. As of now, I expect him to keep most of his campaign promises, no matter how much the liberal losers riot against him.

 Grin Also, Trump is quite radical and as I observed he is also a no non-sense kind of leader. He speaks whats on his mind and sometimes patriotic which made him love by many. I think they are also in talks with his Russian counterpart to resolved previous issues that strained the relationship of both countries.

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Russians are happy because WW3 is moved at least 4 years into the future and more stable security system in Europe is now possible.
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Russians are happy because WW3 is moved at least 4 years into the future and more stable security system in Europe is now possible.

Well... that is true. And a lot can happen during these 4 years. Russia can strengthen its military, and form alliances with countries such as China and Iran, thereby avoiding the possibility of a WW3 in the near future.

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December 05, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
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Russians are happy because WW3 is moved at least 4 years into the future and more stable security system in Europe is now possible.

Well... that is true. And a lot can happen during these 4 years. Russia can strengthen its military, and form alliances with countries such as China and Iran, thereby avoiding the possibility of a WW3 in the near future.
Well, Iran is the thing, why should such an Alliance to China? Don't forget that China has long territorial disputes with Russia. Why do they need to strengthen the position of Russia? It is more profitable to wait for its decay, to take their territory and then make peace with the pieces.
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Trump has been changing most of the things he said before elections and I can't wait to see how things unfold, especially what steps he will take to set the relationship of USA with Russia as well as China.

He has moderated his stance on some controversial issues, such as illegal immigration. But there has been no abrupt U-turns. As of now, I expect him to keep most of his campaign promises, no matter how much the liberal losers riot against him.

 Grin Also, Trump is quite radical and as I observed he is also a no non-sense kind of leader. He speaks whats on his mind and sometimes patriotic which made him love by many. I think they are also in talks with his Russian counterpart to resolved previous issues that strained the relationship of both countries.
Never Russia and America were never friends. Occasionally they are allies in the struggle against common enemies, but no more. Do not forget that the Soviet Union had long been an ally with Hitler's Germany. but this did not prevent them to start a war with each other.
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Russian are just being delusional to think they will now get more than what they were getting in world politics because of the Presidency of Trump, they will soon realize that everything he has been saying are just empty promises and when the reality sets in the probability of Trump doing something else as those occupying the seat is zero to none. Russia are free to support whoever they wanted and they should not forget its no longer Trump's personal business but America's business.
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There are many hidden facts here, which we, public, don't know.
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It seems also, that Russia helped Trump to win by reveling secret Clinton's emails.
If so, Putin really put a lot effort to help Trump.
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It is no secret that Putin had a deep-seated hatred towards the Clinton family. He holds them personally responsible for the bombing of Serbia in 1999. For him, anyone else is more preferable to Hillary. If it was Sanders vs Trump, then Putin might have put his weight behind the socialist Sanders.

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December 06, 2016, 08:46:26 AM
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Answer is very simple.
Trump already said that he likes Putin, that he is ''great'' leader, that USA and Russia should become ''friends'' etc.
Such words are surely ''music'' for Russians.
Also, it seems that American military troops will leave Korea, Japan, Europe and left this countries helpless and without defense.
He will also cancel trade agreements with EU and Korea, Australia...
If I will be Putin, I will celebrate day and night because of such outcome in American presidential election.
Putin is a great leader and that is a fact and Americans has to accept that fact. The news you see in television is not true most of the time ,for example look at the pre election polls conducted by the American televisions, everyone predicted Mrs clinton to win the election but then the reality was just the opposite.
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December 06, 2016, 09:55:37 PM
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You make too much out of it. Russians have vodka. Russians keep themselves happy with anything.

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December 07, 2016, 11:57:52 AM
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There are many hidden facts here, which we, public, don't know.
For example, it seems that Trump have business tiers with Russia.
It seems also, that Russia helped Trump to win by reveling secret Clinton's emails.
If so, Putin really put a lot effort to help Trump.
It's hard to say if Trump and Putin had some deal here but soon we will find out.

 

While im not pro-trump, neither pro-hillary/putin, Hillary was the one who wanted a no-fly zone above syria, which would mean that they have to go in war with russia to enforce that zone.
I could see why putin is happy with trumps victory, they also both want to defeat IS, although i think that is not going to help.
Also Trump really emphasized restoring the trading relations with russia, while hillary wasn't really distinct about these issues.
How to trade with the enemy? Any trade the development of the country. Why develop the economy of the enemy. Now you will earn hundreds of millions, and then spend hundreds of billions on the war. Such decisions should be made by smart people and not clowns.
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December 07, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
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There are many hidden facts here, which we, public, don't know.
For example, it seems that Trump have business tiers with Russia.
It seems also, that Russia helped Trump to win by reveling secret Clinton's emails.
If so, Putin really put a lot effort to help Trump.
It's hard to say if Trump and Putin had some deal here but soon we will find out.

 

While im not pro-trump, neither pro-hillary/putin, Hillary was the one who wanted a no-fly zone above syria, which would mean that they have to go in war with russia to enforce that zone.
I could see why putin is happy with trumps victory, they also both want to defeat IS, although i think that is not going to help.
Also Trump really emphasized restoring the trading relations with russia, while hillary wasn't really distinct about these issues.
How to trade with the enemy? Any trade the development of the country. Why develop the economy of the enemy. Now you will earn hundreds of millions, and then spend hundreds of billions on the war. Such decisions should be made by smart people and not clowns.

My catch on this one is that Trump doesnt want development gained through invading other countries by saying they have weapons of massive destruction but the reason is their gold. Trump is a businessman, he doesnt want to waste bombs and weapons to earn and attain resources. Trump sees development by looking the unemployment and income situation within America. Trump is no focused on false war and Russia is happy about it since they dont want to wage war against US by protecting their allies.
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December 07, 2016, 01:34:38 PM
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There are many hidden facts here, which we, public, don't know.
For example, it seems that Trump have business tiers with Russia.
It seems also, that Russia helped Trump to win by reveling secret Clinton's emails.
If so, Putin really put a lot effort to help Trump.
It's hard to say if Trump and Putin had some deal here but soon we will find out.

 

While im not pro-trump, neither pro-hillary/putin, Hillary was the one who wanted a no-fly zone above syria, which would mean that they have to go in war with russia to enforce that zone.
I could see why putin is happy with trumps victory, they also both want to defeat IS, although i think that is not going to help.
Also Trump really emphasized restoring the trading relations with russia, while hillary wasn't really distinct about these issues.
How to trade with the enemy? Any trade the development of the country. Why develop the economy of the enemy. Now you will earn hundreds of millions, and then spend hundreds of billions on the war. Such decisions should be made by smart people and not clowns.

My catch on this one is that Trump doesnt want development gained through invading other countries by saying they have weapons of massive destruction but the reason is their gold. Trump is a businessman, he doesnt want to waste bombs and weapons to earn and attain resources. Trump sees development by looking the unemployment and income situation within America. Trump is no focused on false war and Russia is happy about it since they dont want to wage war against US by protecting their allies.
War is never false. All just war or there or not. In addition, Americans spend a lot of money and effort to have supporters and have their influence on them. Trump will not destroy what took decades. Politics is not business.
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December 09, 2016, 02:10:10 AM
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I thought they are mostly neutral abot the whole thng but idk

Where have you heard that they were happy tho?
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December 09, 2016, 11:59:39 AM
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I thought they are mostly neutral abot the whole thng but idk

Where have you heard that they were happy tho?
In the Russian Parliament even drank champagne for the winning Trump. All the channels happily reported the news and gave the victory as a victory for Russia. Not sure Trump sponsored by Russia, but it is suspicious.
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