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November 26, 2016, 12:25:33 PM
Last edit: November 29, 2016, 10:12:24 AM by cryptohunter
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Here ch you may find this interesting


https://github.com/vertoe/darkcoin_subsidy/blob/master/darkcoin_subsidy.cpp

Code:
double ConvertBitsToDouble(unsigned int nBits)
{
int nShift = (nBits >> 24) & 0xff;
double dDiff =
(double)0x0000ffff / (double)(nBits & 0x00ffffff);
while (nShift < 29)
{
dDiff *= 256.0;
nShift++;
}
while (nShift > 29)
{
dDiff /= 256.0;
nShift--;
}
return dDiff;
}
Code:
long long static GetBlockBaseValue(int nBits, int nHeight, bool fTestNet = false)
{
double dDiff = (double)0x0000ffff / (double)(nBits & 0x00ffffff);
/**
  * Stop instamine (easy difficulty) at block # 4500. - JC
  */
if(nHeight > 4500) dDiff = ConvertBitsToDouble(nBits);
else
/**
  * Return the (instamine) easy difficulty. - JC
  */
This should be quite clear on what Evan did, he corrupted the value of the bits to return an "easy difficulty" then once he got enough coins he stopped it @ block # 4500. ANY testing would have shown this bug prior to launch as it would have very fast block timing. It was 100% "by design".

https://explorer.dash.org/block/000000000c260a60825cafb0ca292fa5cbd6d2b655ca59ebc7ca895aec54c183

You'll notice all blocks before 4500 are extremely close in timing, not 2.5 mins as advertised.
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What is this? clear real coded in evidence for the premeditated captive instamine or just someones interpretation of deliberate instamine measures in the code?

If this is as clear as this person sees it then how has it taken this long to come to light?

coders opinions only please else we are just guessing....

Was this code released on the main net of xcoin and removed or edited later or was it never released and was only a test net bug?

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November 26, 2016, 12:57:09 PM
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Can't speak about this specific bit of code but the general premine issue is known and was well known from the time Dash was called Darkcoin. it has been been a topic thoroughly discussed, especially by the bitcoin community.

This is what the Dev had to say after being criticized years ago: https://archive.fo/QdhCh


Relevant bitcointalk thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

 
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Great, now that everything is stable, I'll be posting later about the vision of this project and milestones! Time to move on to actually implementing what I set out to do.

so Evan had planned already for his coin..when did "the plan" become a plan? 2 days after the launch? i believe the plan was a plan waaaay back.

he showed the plans a month after he said he had plans..delayed it on purpose for the accumulation with his friends.

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To defeat propagation problems, master nodes are elected each new block. They are responsible for being the authority of what goes into the joined transaction each session. This is done in a tamperproof way, but I think it’s not important to the discussion.



Even after the instamine, accumulation, fork from 84 million to 21 million supply

Evan still putting the masternode specifics under the rug so he and his friends can further accumulate dash.

The thread was created 18 January 2014 and the first mention to Masternodes is from the 21 February 2014. A month and 189 pages of thread later!

I provided the link between Evan's January 20, 2014 post to February 21, 2014 post, showing what he had in mind all along..

you see it is not about the instamine all alone, it is about the whole story, what was in Evan's mind the whole time  Wink
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The only thing damning about this whole post is that people just fall so easily for troll posts like these. It is like those bait articles you find on the internet
that just serve to trick people into reading them and they pretty much always are a big waste of time.

* point 1 : official Dash github is found here --> https://github.com/dashpay/dash

I will let that sink in for awhile, for the more slower trolls on this thread

* point 2 : the code that is referred to in this thread is for Testnet



Which means OP is making us read a post about code from 2014, ment for Testnet (which obviously need to have other conditions then Mainnet).
In other words this is all a big waste of time.

Come on guys, i know you are all worried sick about Dash catching up and all, but when you want to troll at least try to troll with some class.



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Dash catching up?

I had no idea Dash was having some issues... Undecided
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Dash catching up?

I had no idea Dash was having some issues... Undecided

Catching up with regards to price / marketcap i mean. Whenever that happens these kind of threads magically appear.
Just remember guys, all magic comes at a price !! Something i learned from watching Once Upon a Time  Roll Eyes

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November 27, 2016, 01:43:21 AM
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This should be quite clear on what Evan did, he corrupted the value of the bits to return an "easy difficulty" then once he got enough coins he stopped it @ block # 4500. ANY testing would have shown this bug prior to launch as it would have very fast block timing. It was 100% "by design".

https://explorer.dash.org/block/000000000c260a60825cafb0ca292fa5cbd6d2b655ca59ebc7ca895aec54c183

You'll notice all blocks before 4500 are extremely close in timing, not 2.5 mins as advertised.


What is this? clear real coded in evidence for the premeditated captive instamine or just someones interpretation of deliberate instamine measures in the code?

If this is as clear as this person sees it then how has it taken this long to come to light?

coders opinions only please else we are just guessing....

Very damning evidence.  The difficulty adjustment was intentionally disabled, IE sabotaged.

Obviously the code must haven been tested prior to ninja-launch, so we must conclude Evan knew in advance the instamine would happen and was 100% positioned to be its beneficiary.

More damning than the "oops no difficulty adjustments" bug and ninja-launch timing is the fact Evan refused to redo the botched debut.

And it gets worse, as Evan later adjusted the total coin supply downward by a factor of 10, so his instamine hoard represents a much larger percentage of total emission than originally advertised to the public.

The very worst thing is that these facts are all well known, and yet his cargo cult still rationalize them with assorted mental contortions.

The only good thing is that Evan's Darkcoin/Dash/Evolution project is dying, as attrition from the cargo cult is higher than recruitment and the (thinly-traded) price depends on two or three whales propping it up.

Evan's instamined scamcoin is also falling behind Bitcoin's technology, as it won't support advanced new features like segwit, Lightning, Rootstock, MAST, or MimbleWimble.

We should be seeing some law enforcement and/or regulatory action effecting Dash, as it is centrally controlled (albeit by a "non-profit" entity) and thus fails the Howey Test, making Dash an unregistered security  (as well as unregistered money services business) and Masternodes an illegal investment scheme.


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Above is example of one of the more slower trolls. One who fails to notice that this code was just created to help with the conditions of Testnet.
This code was never included on Mainnet, was developed on Vertoe's personal Github and was purely created to help with testing on Testnet.

This thread effectively destroys the credibility of OP and those supporting him by manipulating and falsifying information.
Guys, if this is your new strategy i'm not really impressed. Sad

    

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Above is example of one of the more slower trolls. One who fails to notice that this code was just created to help with the conditions of Testnet.
This code was never included on Mainnet, was developed on Vertoe's personal Github and was purely created to help with testing on Testnet.

This thread effectively destroys the credibility of OP and those supporting him by manipulating and falsifying information.
Guys, if this is your new strategy i'm not really impressed. Sad 

^^^ Found the DashHole.

And right on cue, the cargo cult member shows up to rationalize the instamine and characterize valid criticism as "trolls."   Roll Eyes


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Above is example of one of the more slower trolls. One who fails to notice that this code was just created to help with the conditions of Testnet.
This code was never included on Mainnet, was developed on Vertoe's personal Github and was purely created to help with testing on Testnet.

This thread effectively destroys the credibility of OP and those supporting him by manipulating and falsifying information.
Guys, if this is your new strategy i'm not really impressed. Sad

    

Please take time to read the OP again.

It is a question asked? do you not comprehend this? It is not a statement.

If this code was 100% not used on the main net at launch of xcoin then you need only to have another serious coder answer clearly it was not and the thread will be locked and deleted.

If you are trying to further claim that this question invalidates prior verified black and white proof of the instamine then you are crazy and I will now list once again 3 or 4 threads dedicated to providing this evidence in black and white for you on this thread and leave it here for you to browse through yourself if you wish. However that has been covered many times and as all polls have shown on this boad the vast consensus is that there was a huge captive instamine and the slashing of the minting is widely known and fully accepted as having taken place. If you want more polls created here to help you accept this fact then just ask and I can set these up for you in no time.

Again take time to read the OP again and digest it. I was sent this code, I am not a coder and as per the title it is asking if this code means something or nothing. You are over stretching by a great margin to not only answer NO it means nothing on its own but to then further go on and say this means you can write off all other damning and fully verifiable evidence that there was a huge captive instamine and further slashing of the minting to magnify this. Then a masternode scheme to further benefit from large holdings.


I will now edit the OP to try and make it easier for you to see which part I have added to the message I was sent by adding some ---------------

You are obviously very enthusiastic regarding dash I am sorry you are wasting your time on this project. I hope you personally can see the light and dump this project and put your well meaning efforts into something with a less dirty origin. I think you would be a valuable member of any community it is sad to see you promoting this proven scam coin.

However if i hear from any known coder outside of dash this code never had any effect upon the initial mining of xcoin/dark/dash we can delete and close the thread.

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Above is example of one of the more slower trolls. One who fails to notice that this code was just created to help with the conditions of Testnet.
This code was never included on Mainnet, was developed on Vertoe's personal Github and was purely created to help with testing on Testnet.

This thread effectively destroys the credibility of OP and those supporting him by manipulating and falsifying information.
Guys, if this is your new strategy i'm not really impressed. Sad

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If this code was 100% not used on the main net at launch of xcoin then you need only to have another serious coder answer clearly it was not and the thread will be locked and deleted.
That is the beauty of Github, it is open-source so everyone can verify these things for themself, no need to have a serious coder to answer that .. just check if that Testnet pull of Vertoe dd 30-dec-2014
exists on official Mainnet Dash Github : https://github.com/dashpay/dash

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If you are trying to further claim that this question invalidates prior verified black and white proof of the instamine then you are crazy
Please try to stay on topic and do not put words in my mouth, i never said the instamine never happened and standby this clarification --> https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification


Seriously though, what is next ? Some code for Dash Testnet from 2014 popping up, where we have set the pairing of Dash PrivateSend mixing from 3 partners to 2 partners for Testnet (changing the conditions for Testnet) and then you guys claiming that code shows how weak Dash PrivateSend mixing is on Mainnet ?

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Dash team have a solid marketing team which has helped the Dash brand, but there is nothing special about the privacy and Anonymous claim after the AML/KYC integration. 
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Dash team have a solid marketing team which has helped the Dash brand, but there is nothing special about the privacy and Anonymous claim after the AML/KYC integration.  

Great, another off topic post .. but i will bite :

Why is it when a lead developer publicly expresses a desire to make his cryptocurrency useable mainstream, people are still shocked when he takes steps to ensure
that mainstream usebility while at the same time preserving the option for users to use anonymity if they choose to ? Free to use anonymity coded at core-level and
which has never been broken.

People should be aware there will always be AML/KYC compliance necessary and needed on the FIAT gateways, this goes for all cryptocurrencies.
The Dash AML/KYC integration just makes it easier for those companies that need to comply with certain AML/KYC rules to form future partnerships with Dash.  
  

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Above is example of one of the more slower trolls. One who fails to notice that this code was just created to help with the conditions of Testnet.
This code was never included on Mainnet, was developed on Vertoe's personal Github and was purely created to help with testing on Testnet.

This thread effectively destroys the credibility of OP and those supporting him by manipulating and falsifying information.
Guys, if this is your new strategy i'm not really impressed. Sad

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If this code was 100% not used on the main net at launch of xcoin then you need only to have another serious coder answer clearly it was not and the thread will be locked and deleted.
That is the beauty of Github, it is open-source so everyone can verify these things for themself, no need to have a serious coder to answer that .. just check if that Testnet pull of Vertoe dd 30-dec-2014
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Please try to stay on topic and do not put words in my mouth, i never said the instamine never happened and standby this clarification --> https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification


Seriously though, what is next ? Some code for Dash Testnet from 2014 popping up, where we have set the pairing of Dash PrivateSend mixing from 3 partners to 2 partners for Testnet (changing the conditions for Testnet) and then you guys claiming that code shows how weak Dash PrivateSend mixing is on Mainnet ?

What I'm asking is was that code part of the xcoin code at launch. I have no idea if this code can be removed at a later date or not. I expect code can be added or removed with hard or soft forks? Just because it is no longer on dash main net does that mean it was never there at launch of xcoin?

You are the person who took the thread off topic first by suggesting because this code is irrelevant that all other facts uncovered by myself and witnessed first hand at launch are therefore invalid.

Let's stick to the facts. This code (that I was enquiring about since i am not a coder) was never on the main net launch of xcoin? If I can have you say 100% it was never on the xcoin main net launch then we can forget about this code.

However, since I have you here I would like to enquire what makes a person like yourself so inclined to favour dash after the start was so tainted. Regardless of the excuses and nonsense for such a mistake and the next whoops mistake apparently of reducing the minting by 75%. Regardless of dash creating some interesting features why would you knowing what you do choose to support it over all the ones that had a fair(er) launch?

Why not support a currency that is not going to forever be held as pariah by the majority of those that ever decide to look into the origins of xcoin/dash?

I do however always respect your cool you keep on these threads. I have not often seen you lose your calm. Your determination is also impressive. I would urge you to dump at least 50% of your dash and put effort into assisting fairer projects that could benefit from your skill set.

Many dash holders at this time have done nothing but invest I don't look forward to them being burned by the inexorable implosion of the scheme. As with all great scams there is always a day of reckoning. Dash has held on way better than I ever expected. It could run another few years but eventually the evidence of the scam is there in black and white waiting to destroy it.

Amanda BJ is another one. Why is she such a dash enthusiast. I would like to talk to her on here. Does she really not have a btc account? seems very strange considering her interest in crypto.

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Dash has held on way better than I ever expected.

Probably the most honest remark you've ever made.
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Dash has held on way better than I ever expected.

Probably the most honest remark you've ever made.


Really? show me some dishonest remarks and validate your claim.

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Dash team have a solid marketing team


LOL, no.

The Dash marketing team could barely get a Dash-powered soda machine set up in time to show McAffee, and was so put off by the experience one of them rage quit, having learned to hate that soda machine and Dash in the process.


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November 28, 2016, 03:35:01 AM
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Dash team have a solid marketing team


LOL, no.

The Dash marketing team could barely get a Dash-powered soda machine set up in time to show McAffee, and was so put off by the experience one of them rage quit, having learned to hate that soda machine and Dash in the process.

And somehow this makes Monero legit or more appealing ?

Maybe don't revel in others misery.. it may come back to haunt you.
Especially if you are a shameless shill for a pointless gimmick shit coin with it's own set of problems.

Glass Houses are popular with cocky pricks.  Cheesy

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November 28, 2016, 07:03:42 AM
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And somehow this makes Monero legit or more appealing ?

Maybe don't revel in others misery.. it may come back to haunt you.
Especially if you are a shameless shill for a pointless gimmick shit coin with it's own set of problems.

Glass Houses are popular with cocky pricks.  Cheesy

^Found the low quality post.^

Monero has nothing to do with the fact Dash, rather than having a " solid marketing team" as claimed, actually has a dysfunctional marketing team (which is a reflection of the dysfunction in the larger Dash community cargo cult.

Excuse the hell out of me for correcting the untrue assertion with evidence contrary to the preferred DashHole narrative.

Do you have any comment on the OP, or did you just come here to waggle your finger and tsk-tsk?   Kiss


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November 28, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
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I stopped reading at "Marketing Team"

Why ?

Because i fought with you guys for a ages over the fact you had one with Monero.
And all the usual suspects would caw like crows "we don't have one"
Bullshit.. you do and i have previously proven it.

An your comment here just shows how bad of a lying sack of shit you all are.

You spew so much fucking bullshit here year after year you can't keep your stories straight.

I don't care what the fuck Dash guys have been up to..
They don't compare to the fraudulent little cock suckers loitering around crypto all this time.

Morono = Tornado of Fraud.

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