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December 05, 2016, 12:14:04 AM
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Correct me if i am wrong as I have no idea of diskless system.

Dont we have to have at least 64gb of RAM of we need to do this? Does the entire system store in the RAM? If so then 20gb for OS and another 16gb for Miner Ram and at least 8gb for System.

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December 05, 2016, 12:17:33 AM
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Can anyone share any solution to reboot a hang system remotely?? This is currently my biggest challange. Since Claymore8, it reduce drastically but still out of the 10 rig, it still happens once a week. My order of 80 rigs are coming in next week and I do not want this to be my full time job.

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December 05, 2016, 12:23:09 AM
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Can anyone share any solution to reboot a hang system remotely?? This is currently my biggest challange. Since Claymore8, it reduce drastically but still out of the 10 rig, it still happens once a week. My order of 80 rigs are coming in next week and I do not want this to be my full time job.

couple things I came up this far:
1. smart PDU
2. mobile phone with reley switch on its vibration motor contacts connected to power pins (not as cost effective for multi rig systems)
3. Radmin adn telneting to machine with command shutdown -r -f -t 1 (it helps only in 50% of cases)
4. the last one is SimpleRigResseter developed by simplemining.net (so far the best one)



Correct me if i am wrong as I have no idea of diskless system.

Dont we have to have at least 64gb of RAM of we need to do this? Does the entire system store in the RAM? If so then 20gb for OS and another 16gb for Miner Ram and at least 8gb for System.
I have same questions, what about the AMD drivers or already configured Claymore's miner ?
I'm using separated worker for every rig, what is the solution in that case ?
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December 05, 2016, 12:55:16 AM
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@ mettalmag

i think you should start looking at diskless solutions....mining rigs booting from LAN.

there is a lot of advantages, specially for people with many mining rigs..
Can you tell me more about that?

you manage all mining rigs' hard drives in a diskless server..

- you can snapshot a clean, freshly installed, freshly tweaked windows OS...and can return to that state in an instant (more like a backup)

- switching from windows to linux vice versa is just a reboot away

- you install a miner software and driver in a mining rig, every mining rig will have that mining software and driver.

- you can set the images (mining rig OS inside diskless server) to read only mode....virus proof, no need for antivirus software. if infected or messed up, you just have to reboot the rig.

- if your farm have so many hard drives, maybe the hard drive power consumption is equal or greater than the diskless server.

- you can turn on and turn off remotely

you just have to be sure that your diskless server is VERY stable...btw there are realtime failover diskless server too.

maybe i missed some things but..that's just what i remembered right now.
at the moment I'm researching the PXE and thinking about it, but first thought is the cost of server and re building network hardware, technically building and implementing this technology would't be a big issue (it's a matter of time, testing and etc), but so far the only problem we have in farm is power blackouts and random PC hangs. To solve this problem I was thinking buy a smart PDUs but the cost in this way is huge too, so the last thing I came up was SimpleRigResseter.

you can simulate testing, troubleshooting the diskless server setup, with a couple or more client PC's using and using VMware or virtual box(they have networking features).. more like a simulated laboratory using real Operating systems.

i'm just mining at home in a room i don't see why would power distribution would be expensive..i know this is small scale, but even if i multiply my electrical setup expenses (projected for a modest farm), it would not be that very expensive. i forgot the exact amount but i think a single rx 480 is more expensive than my electrical setup (considering that my wires are not very long), i haven't used the 20A breakers in that pic, why? i know the THHN AWG # 12 limits, only plugged 2 pcs 2500 watts rating surge protected extension wires per outlet.....and i'm the only person going inside the mining room...nobody is going inside the room and plug some stuff that will overload the THHN #12 (the surge protected 2500w rating extension wire trips if overloaded btw) Grin



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December 05, 2016, 12:59:02 AM
Last edit: December 05, 2016, 01:09:37 AM by arielbit
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Correct me if i am wrong as I have no idea of diskless system.

Dont we have to have at least 64gb of RAM of we need to do this? Does the entire system store in the RAM? If so then 20gb for OS and another 16gb for Miner Ram and at least 8gb for System.

16gb ram is enough, some people can pull it off with lower than 16gb ram..

the OS (image) of the clients runs at the diskless server HDDs...that's why i recommended using SSD's they are faster and more than enough.

I have same questions, what about the AMD drivers or already configured Claymore's miner ?
I'm using separated worker for every rig, what is the solution in that case ?

as far as i know images have can have like.. child images, only the changes are saved..like..
(i forgot the term .. i'm using "child")
-original image   ..10gb
---(child image)installed driver, different worker, installed other stuff ..1gb

total space occupied 11gb

....allocating separate image for each client can be done but it is not recommended due to waste of storage space, but it might be useful in cases where different motherboards are used or other issues that are hardware-driver related.
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December 23, 2016, 01:49:02 AM
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Can anyone share any solution to reboot a hang system remotely?? This is currently my biggest challange. Since Claymore8, it reduce drastically but still out of the 10 rig, it still happens once a week. My order of 80 rigs are coming in next week and I do not want this to be my full time job.

You can setup a Rasberry Pi to take care of that for you. You link the two pins that turn the system on to the RPis GPIO pins with breadboard connectors and you can set each bank of pins to turn individual machines off and on. You can manage 13 systems per RPi with the onboard header.  You can also buy GPIO expansion boards and have one RPi controlling a much larger number of systems.

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December 23, 2016, 01:54:25 AM
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Can anyone share any solution to reboot a hang system remotely?? This is currently my biggest challange. Since Claymore8, it reduce drastically but still out of the 10 rig, it still happens once a week. My order of 80 rigs are coming in next week and I do not want this to be my full time job.

You can setup a Rasberry Pi to take care of that for you. You link the two pins that turn the system on to the RPis GPIO pins with breadboard connectors and you can set each bank of pins to turn individual machines off and on. You can manage 13 systems per RPi with the onboard header.  You can also buy GPIO expansion boards and have one RPi controlling a much larger number of systems.
that sounds quite interesting, Im thinking to order Pi for further testing, before that I did it with poe switch https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1725792.0
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December 23, 2016, 02:40:55 AM
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Ok I'm not proficient at embedding images and don't feel like spending the time to figure it out. Anyways here's my setup... 6 rigs have been added since the video was shot.

https://youtu.be/MJEZqVm0_9Q


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December 23, 2016, 08:46:26 AM
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Correct me if i am wrong as I have no idea of diskless system.

Dont we have to have at least 64gb of RAM of we need to do this? Does the entire system store in the RAM? If so then 20gb for OS and another 16gb for Miner Ram and at least 8gb for System.
If you mean on the server side:

You could put all of ths os into a ramdisk, but all that would do is make it read faster and be able to be sent over the network faster, but would still be limited to the networked speeds

if on the client side: yeah you'd probably need a fair bit of ram to be able to hold everything, or some sort of scratch disk. Good point there, though I am not sure you would need 64gb of ram that seems a bit much
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December 23, 2016, 08:51:21 AM
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Amazing Cheesy

So whats your location / electricity price?!
Location is Tbilisi and the electricity price is classified Cheesy 0.05$

That's just awesome ! I'm considering more and more each day to turn on back my rigs in another country, for let's say something like a year. But moving all my stuff would be painly so better would be to buy directly in the place. Is price the same than us for the components ?
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December 23, 2016, 10:13:29 AM
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Amazing Cheesy

So whats your location / electricity price?!
Location is Tbilisi and the electricity price is classified Cheesy 0.05$

That's just awesome ! I'm considering more and more each day to turn on back my rigs in another country, for let's say something like a year. But moving all my stuff would be painly so better would be to buy directly in the place. Is price the same than us for the components ?
It would be hard to find big amounts of AMD cards on place, even I imported almost anything.
I'm working on a project to build environment with air cooling and conditioning and all other necessary stuff, will you be really interested in moving to another country and paying like 5cents per kwh with no limit on it and plus the rent of the place ?
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December 23, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
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Amazing Cheesy

So whats your location / electricity price?!
Location is Tbilisi and the electricity price is classified Cheesy 0.05$

That's just awesome ! I'm considering more and more each day to turn on back my rigs in another country, for let's say something like a year. But moving all my stuff would be painly so better would be to buy directly in the place. Is price the same than us for the components ?
It would be hard to find big amounts of AMD cards on place, even I imported almost anything.
I'm working on a project to build environment with air cooling and conditioning and all other necessary stuff, will you be really interested in moving to another country and paying like 5cents per kwh with no limit on it and plus the rent of the place ?

Well then I guess best is to buy there and go in a truck until the place with all cards in. Yeah, that would be funny and if I do that I'll assure to get ton of cards (at least one hundred), so I would be damn profitable and might live off that for a few months until I come back to the motherland ! However, I do not plan that for too soon, maybe second half of 2018, not before. My biggest problem would be to find a warehouse that supports so high wattages though.
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Amazing Cheesy

So whats your location / electricity price?!
Location is Tbilisi and the electricity price is classified Cheesy 0.05$

That's just awesome ! I'm considering more and more each day to turn on back my rigs in another country, for let's say something like a year. But moving all my stuff would be painly so better would be to buy directly in the place. Is price the same than us for the components ?
It would be hard to find big amounts of AMD cards on place, even I imported almost anything.
I'm working on a project to build environment with air cooling and conditioning and all other necessary stuff, will you be really interested in moving to another country and paying like 5cents per kwh with no limit on it and plus the rent of the place ?

are you considering hosting possibility? i could be interested if possible, to consider buying some rigs(not many, 3-5) that will work there, but the big problem would be always the trust
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December 23, 2016, 02:31:15 PM
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I see lots of rigs built with wooden parts, are you not worried about fire hazard? Wink
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December 23, 2016, 03:19:15 PM
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i haven't used the 20A breakers in that pic, why? i know the THHN AWG # 12 limits, only plugged 2 pcs 2500 watts rating surge protected extension wires per outlet.....and i'm the only person going inside the mining room...nobody is going inside the room and plug some stuff that will overload the THHN #12 (the surge protected 2500w rating extension wire trips if overloaded btw) Grin


be careful - just because you are not loading >20A on the circuit doesnt mean you dont need a breaker. if the equipment fails/shorts it could draw a lot of amperage (presumably up to the 70A to trip your main breaker) for a few seconds until the wires fail, and a fire could start.

but in a more general sense, i agree with your logic that you are engineering the load distibution based on your custom electrical layout, and its extremely unlikely you would accidentally overload anything (unless theres a component failure)

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December 23, 2016, 07:26:53 PM
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Just a quick question for all you guys running big rigs at home, do you have any trouble/concern about the power to the outlets in your home? I have 2 rigs one with 5x1070 and one with 3x 480 and 2x 470 and all together they pull 1200 to 1500w at the wall depending on whats being mined. A standard residential circuit is 15A so maximum 1800w, I'm just wondering if pulling 1200+ through a single circuit 24/7 is a recipe for disaster

So long as your power cables are not running hot you'll be fine. The wiring inside the wall is rated for 15 amps if you go over your breaker will pop and protect you. The cable that you use from the power supply or power bar is another story.
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December 23, 2016, 08:00:53 PM
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Amazing Cheesy

So whats your location / electricity price?!
Location is Tbilisi and the electricity price is classified Cheesy 0.05$

That's just awesome ! I'm considering more and more each day to turn on back my rigs in another country, for let's say something like a year. But moving all my stuff would be painly so better would be to buy directly in the place. Is price the same than us for the components ?
It would be hard to find big amounts of AMD cards on place, even I imported almost anything.
I'm working on a project to build environment with air cooling and conditioning and all other necessary stuff, will you be really interested in moving to another country and paying like 5cents per kwh with no limit on it and plus the rent of the place ?

are you considering hosting possibility? i could be interested if possible, to consider buying some rigs(not many, 3-5) that will work there, but the big problem would be always the trust
I'm actually working on that project. El. limit will be 480kwh and total maybe 300sqm place with security and stuff. Ready environment with air flow and conditioning and of course price of electricity 5cents per kwh, I'm thinking of possibility to make rentable room and places for rigs

I see lots of rigs built with wooden parts, are you not worried about fire hazard? Wink
In my case they are covered with anti flame material (I didn't build them so I don't exactly know how it works and if it is really safe)



Amazing Cheesy

So whats your location / electricity price?!
Location is Tbilisi and the electricity price is classified Cheesy 0.05$

That's just awesome ! I'm considering more and more each day to turn on back my rigs in another country, for let's say something like a year. But moving all my stuff would be painly so better would be to buy directly in the place. Is price the same than us for the components ?
It would be hard to find big amounts of AMD cards on place, even I imported almost anything.
I'm working on a project to build environment with air cooling and conditioning and all other necessary stuff, will you be really interested in moving to another country and paying like 5cents per kwh with no limit on it and plus the rent of the place ?

Well then I guess best is to buy there and go in a truck until the place with all cards in. Yeah, that would be funny and if I do that I'll assure to get ton of cards (at least one hundred), so I would be damn profitable and might live off that for a few months until I come back to the motherland ! However, I do not plan that for too soon, maybe second half of 2018, not before. My biggest problem would be to find a warehouse that supports so high wattages though.
as I said there will be lot of electricity for use, I'm just wondering how to manage rental fees and etc.
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December 24, 2016, 02:01:46 AM
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Ok I'm not proficient at embedding images and don't feel like spending the time to figure it out. Anyways here's my setup... 6 rigs have been added since the video was shot.


you need a certain activity level (like a post count) to imbed images, so i quoted it so it will show up.

like the ceiling vent and that circular fan. pretty sweet setup.

how many CFM are they?
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December 24, 2016, 02:42:27 AM
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For 4 GPU rx 470 sapphire nitro oc 4 GB and motherboard Asus b85 and CPU g3240 3.1ghz and memory 4gb ... power 850watts enough or no please help me
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December 24, 2016, 11:15:59 AM
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Hi guys

For 4 GPU rx 470 sapphire nitro oc 4 GB and motherboard Asus b85 and CPU g3240 3.1ghz and memory 4gb ... power 850watts enough or no please help me

Of course it is enough ! A well-configured RX 470 consumes 100W. That makes 400W for the cards. A modern computer excluding the graphic cards will never, under any circumstance, consumes more than 450W, what's left. So of course that will be enough. Just make sure to take an higher grade PSU, at least a silver one. The price won't be much higher and you'll save a lot on the power bill !
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