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April 09, 2013, 08:53:47 AM
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Please show us your company registration papers for "JD Enterprise Inc". Please grasp the concept of Incorporation along with the difference between a trademark and copyright.

I already answered your question just a few posts above.

Stop throwing rocks, I guess market have enough space for anyone doing a good work as we are doing. You have your BTC Investment Fund, and I hope it goes as good as we are going.

BTW, Incorporation (Inc.) is the forming of a new corporation (a corporation being a legal entity that is effectively recognized as a person under the law).
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Protection of personal assets. One of the most important legal benefits is the safeguarding of personal assets against the claims of creditors and lawsuits. Sole proprietors and general partners in a partnership are personally and jointly responsible for all the liabilities of a business such as loans, accounts payable, and legal judgments. In a corporation, however, stockholders, directors and officers typically are not liable for the company's debts and obligations. They are limited in liability to the amount they have invested in the corporation. For example, if a shareholder purchased $100 in stock, no more than $100 can be lost.
If a shareholder of a corporation is personally involved in a lawsuit or bankruptcy, these assets may be protected. A creditor of a shareholder of a corporation or LLC cannot seize the assets of the company. However, the creditor can seize ownership shares in the corporation, as they are considered a personal asset.
Raising funds through sale of stock. A corporation can easily raise capital from investors through the sale of stock.
A corporation is capable of continuing indefinitely. Its existence is not affected by the death of shareholders, directors, or officers of the corporation.
Since we finish our registration process, I'll be glad to show you the papers, and I hope you are the first one to see it, after us, of course.

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As someone who likes © a lot, did you know that you just violated CC-BY-SA 3.0 by not giving attribution for something you copied from Wikipedia?

Seriously, you are retarded if you "invest" your bitcoins with this joker. Same person who "traded" 60 second binary options from a Mt Gox account and wondered why he didn't get his winnings. Derp.
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April 09, 2013, 09:02:21 AM
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Ok enough. Ignored too.  Cool
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Ignoring long time/trusted members is not a good way to attract investors.
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April 09, 2013, 10:33:46 AM
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long time/trusted members seem to be the ones running the biggest scams  Grin

P.S I'm not talking about you TF, was just a general comment.

Ignoring long time/trusted members is not a good way to attract investors.

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April 09, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
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long time/trusted members seem to be the ones running the biggest scams  Grin

P.S I'm not talking about you TF, was just a general comment.

Ignoring long time/trusted members is not a good way to attract investors.

Also Bitcoinica and TradeHill was long time and trusted members before they got stealed (do you believe this?).  Huh
Also Butterfly Labs still didn't deliveried a single ASICS machine after many fake videos, missed deadlines, and photos with boxs closed without nothing inside running air inside of it (do you believe this?).  Huh
You should read all posts , and all text at jdbif7.blogspot.com before judging JDBIF. You should also see the process happening.  Grin
Before ignoring, I tryed to keep up a decent conversation. By the way, your avatar remembers me a troll face.  Cool

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April 09, 2013, 06:03:47 PM
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So you stopped paying the dividends you'd promised in October last year.  Then about 4-5 months later make a few lines post on your blog - and somehow that's supposed to be fine?
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April 09, 2013, 07:08:30 PM
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So you stopped paying the dividends you'd promised in October last year.  Then about 4-5 months later make a few lines post on your blog - and somehow that's supposed to be fine?

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So you stopped paying the dividends you'd promised in October last year.  Then about 4-5 months later make a few lines post on your blog - and somehow that's supposed to be fine?

Because Bitcoin! He doesn't feel like anything's wrong! He believes you are rude! INVESTORS! SUCCESS!!! RARWR!

Maybe you didn't noticed, we are RAISING SHARES VALUE, what will pay more than what we promised to all our old and new investors.

You don't need much lines with truth by your side.
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April 10, 2013, 06:08:37 PM
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Maybe you didn't noticed, we are RAISING SHARES VALUE, what will pay more than what we promised to all our old and new investors.

You don't need much lines with truth by your side.

The problems here are two fold. One, that you seem to be confused as to what share value is and how it rises. Hint: it does not move administratively, by someone's declaration. The marketplace rises or lowers it (which marketplace is absent in this case, and for good reason, but anyway).

The other, that I am wary of such declarations coming from the interested party. There is plenty of history on these forums to back up what I'm saying here, asset issuer claiming "he's raised value", and maybe even putting a few bids in only to evaporate at the first sign of sustained sell-off.

So...rather than trying to pick a fight with the dragon, try addressing Deprived's points. You were gone for a season. What gives?

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Maybe you didn't noticed, we are RAISING SHARES VALUE, what will pay more than what we promised to all our old and new investors.

You don't need much lines with truth by your side.

The problems here are two fold. One, that you seem to be confused as to what share value is and how it rises. Hint: it does not move administratively, by someone's declaration. The marketplace rises or lowers it (which marketplace is absent in this case, and for good reason, but anyway).

The other, that I am wary of such declarations coming from the interested party. There is plenty of history on these forums to back up what I'm saying here, asset issuer claiming "he's raised value", and maybe even putting a few bids in only to evaporate at the first sign of sustained sell-off.

So...rather than trying to pick a fight with the dragon, try addressing Deprived's points. You were gone for a season. What gives?

When you do an administrative action powered by enough investor angels, yes, shares value change by declaration. You should read all text too before thinking this way. We know how many shares we have in market so easy math gives us how much we can spend to buy them all back. Another thing you should read is the part "slowly re buying" because we are not dumb, of course. That's why we have investors, news and old ones too, because they are not dumb too. By the way, you are helping me, please, throw more rocks, so people will sell more cheap their shares. Lol. We don't need this, that's the joke. Get my peace over your ironic bad smell.  Wink
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April 11, 2013, 04:42:31 AM
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Another usefull info, I shared a prediction about BTC price. Look, it can fail! Nice opportunity to throw more rocks. Kisses  Cool


http://jdbif7.blogspot.com.br/2013/04/early-prediction-prices-today-btc-just.html
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April 11, 2013, 10:42:10 AM
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2.2.2) 1broker©: We found on 1broker© a strong partner and a new world of opportunities. With 200x leverage on currency pairs, 1broker© allows JDBIF© to get strong profits without big risks.

NOTHING that has 200x leverage can be done without big risks.  Leverage increases profit at the expense of also increasing risk - that's the nature of the beast.

What we have here is a supposed fund that:

1.  Failed to pay the dividends it had promised.
2.  Gave no explanation of that for many months - then finally ocmes up with the excuse that they stopepd paying dividends to raise the share price.
3.  The share price has fallen in the meantime.
4.  No monthly results or statements of holdings of ANY kind are provided.  ALl you get are (sometimes) random amounts paid as dividends which in no way match the promised returns.
5.  Apparently profit is being made by trading fiat currency pairs.  It would be hard to make a BTC-denominated profit doing that.

This time round there's a bit more explanation than the first time the scam sold shares.  But there's still absolutely basic howlers in it, such as:

1.  Not understanding the different between Copyright and Patent.
2.  Claiming you can do massively leveraged trading without high risk (only possible if the outcome is KNOWN).
3.  Still no explanation of how the fund is valued - let alone historical valuations.  This one's problematic for JDBIF - as if he produces historical results that DON'T show a massive profit then it gives the lie to some of his claims.  If, on the other hand, he invents historical results that DO show a massive profit then some of his investors (I assume there ARE some - not all of the sales can be to himself/his alts) may want to cash out at that price.
4.  Claiming to be run by an incorporated company that hasn't even been incorporated.  That's a criminal offence in most countries - attempting to obtain money by deception.
5.  Believing he can incorporate a company to run a collective investment scheme - not many places you can do that without also needing to register with relevant regulatory authorities.

In short it's a pretty obvious scam.  That he's come back to try to steal more funds after not getting enough first time round says a lot about his low opinion of the level of business sense of Bitcoin users.  On that one point he's probably correct.
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Another usefull info, I shared a prediction about BTC price. Look, it can fail! Nice opportunity to throw more rocks. Kisses  Cool


http://jdbif7.blogspot.com.br/2013/04/early-prediction-prices-today-btc-just.html

Here, for posterity, is the prediction:

"Remember, nothing is unfailable, but right now, BTC is 175, and JDIBF predicts a full regeneration to 250 US$ level, very very soon. You can check the date and time of this post, and tell me if JDBIF can help you to invest better. Don't fight with Mt.Gox. Invest with us and relax. JDBIF, the best algorithm on BTC market."

Any clarification on what "very very soon" means?  Today?  Tomorrow?  Within a week?

I don't doubt BTC will reach $250 again - assume everyone here believes that or they're wasting their time being involved in it (if BTC doesn't reach $250 again then it's failed).
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April 12, 2013, 04:29:33 AM
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2.2.2) 1broker©: We found on 1broker© a strong partner and a new world of opportunities. With 200x leverage on currency pairs, 1broker© allows JDBIF© to get strong profits without big risks.

NOTHING that has 200x leverage can be done without big risks.  Leverage increases profit at the expense of also increasing risk - that's the nature of the beast.

Not true. We use 0.01 or at max 0.1 per trade, where 200x leverage allow this small trades to give out big profits, as you can see here.

What we have here is a supposed fund that:

1.  Failed to pay the dividends it had promised.
We payed what we could. As pointed out on initial text, the JDBIF algorithm was on test phase, and we now have a better product.
2.  Gave no explanation of that for many months - then finally ocmes up with the excuse that they stopepd paying dividends to raise the share price.
Explanation about why this happened also is on jdbif7.blogspot.com
3.  The share price has fallen in the meantime.
True. No excuses here. We can't control the market, at that point.
4.  No monthly results or statements of holdings of ANY kind are provided.  ALl you get are (sometimes) random amounts paid as dividends which in no way match the promised returns.
JDBIF gave more than 60% back in dividends to our shareholders, and I know many pretty happy with it.
5.  Apparently profit is being made by trading fiat currency pairs.  It would be hard to make a BTC-denominated profit doing that.
Again, not true. Check 1broker.com and if you are a good trader, you can profit in BTCs there, trading currency pairs.


This time round there's a bit more explanation than the first time the scam sold shares.  But there's still absolutely basic howlers in it, such as:

1.  Not understanding the different between Copyright and Patent.
In your opinion.
2.  Claiming you can do massively leveraged trading without high risk (only possible if the outcome is KNOWN).
Also already explained.
3.  Still no explanation of how the fund is valued - let alone historical valuations.  This one's problematic for JDBIF - as if he produces historical results that DON'T show a massive profit then it gives the lie to some of his claims.  If, on the other hand, he invents historical results that DO show a massive profit then some of his investors (I assume there ARE some - not all of the sales can be to himself/his alts) may want to cash out at that price.
Here you give us your opinion. This is not a fact, for sure.
4.  Claiming to be run by an incorporated company that hasn't even been incorporated.  That's a criminal offence in most countries - attempting to obtain money by deception.
Incorporated because we propescted Investor Angels, and they are our partners on the business now. Our lawyer is running against the clock to register ASAP. No crime here, for sure.
5.  Believing he can incorporate a company to run a collective investment scheme - not many places you can do that without also needing to register with relevant regulatory authorities.
As pointed out too in our site (jdbif7.blogspot.com) BTC business still facing dificulties to register since BTC is out of any goverment control yet.


In short it's a pretty obvious scam.  That he's come back to try to steal more funds after not getting enough first time round says a lot about his low opinion of the level of business sense of Bitcoin users.  On that one point he's probably correct.
Also, another opinion. I don't ask you to truth our business, but think twice before throwing rocks you don't know where. Peace, Best Regards.
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April 12, 2013, 05:04:24 AM
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Another usefull info, I shared a prediction about BTC price. Look, it can fail! Nice opportunity to throw more rocks. Kisses  Cool


http://jdbif7.blogspot.com.br/2013/04/early-prediction-prices-today-btc-just.html

Here, for posterity, is the prediction:

"Remember, nothing is unfailable, but right now, BTC is 175, and JDIBF predicts a full regeneration to 250 US$ level, very very soon. You can check the date and time of this post, and tell me if JDBIF can help you to invest better. Don't fight with Mt.Gox. Invest with us and relax. JDBIF, the best algorithm on BTC market."

Any clarification on what "very very soon" means?  Today?  Tomorrow?  Within a week?

I don't doubt BTC will reach $250 again - assume everyone here believes that or they're wasting their time being involved in it (if BTC doesn't reach $250 again then it's failed).

Yep, this prediction failed for now, but as we said (" nothing is unfailable") in our site jdbif7.blogspot.com we are buying and raising shares value:
Recent Orderexecutions
Date   Type   Price   Quantity   Amount   
April 11, 2013 21:11    Buy   0.0070   2   0.0140   BTC
April 11, 2013 21:11    Buy   0.0070   8   0.0560   BTC
April 11, 2013 17:31    Buy   0.0070   2   0.0140   BTC
April 11, 2013 11:27    Buy   0.0085   10   0.0850   BTC
April 10, 2013 17:01    Buy   0.0084   1   0.0084   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:40    Buy   0.0085   360   3.0600   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:39    Buy   0.0075   140   1.0500   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:38    Buy   0.0060   50   0.3000   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:37    Buy   0.0060   50   0.3000   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:34    Buy   0.0060   50   0.3000   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:31    Buy   0.0060   830   4.9800   BTC
April 10, 2013 12:41    Buy   0.0089   2   0.0178   BTC
April 10, 2013 12:41    Buy   0.0089   8   0.0712   BTC
April 10, 2013 07:21    Buy   0.0089   2   0.0178   BTC
April 10, 2013 03:21    Buy   0.0089   10   0.0890   BTC
April 10, 2013 03:21    Buy   0.0089   20   0.1780   BTC
April 10, 2013 02:32    Buy   0.0080   100   0.8000   BTC
April 10, 2013 02:28    Buy   0.0070   60   0.4200   BTC
April 09, 2013 23:33    Buy   0.0070   40   0.2800   BTC
April 09, 2013 20:36    Buy   0.0060   100   0.6000   BTC
April 09, 2013 10:17    Buy   0.0090   10   0.0900   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:18    Buy   0.0090   10   0.0900   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:14    Buy   0.0059   24   0.1416   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:00    Buy   0.0050   30   0.1500   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:00    Buy   0.0050   664   3.3200   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:00    Buy   0.0049   199   0.9751   BTC
April 08, 2013 16:41    Buy   0.0049   10   0.0490   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:52    Buy   0.0049   54   0.2646   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:52    Buy   0.0049   9   0.0441   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:52    Buy   0.0047   15   0.0705   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:51    Buy   0.0046   60   0.2760   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0046   10   0.0460   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0046   10   0.0460   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0045   5   0.0225   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0044   40   0.1760   BTC
April 08, 2013 12:36    Buy   0.0044   5   0.0220   BTC
April 08, 2013 09:02    Buy   0.0045   65   0.2925   BTC
April 08, 2013 08:58    Buy   0.0045   9   0.0405   BTC
April 08, 2013 06:51    Buy   0.0045   10   0.0450   BTC
April 08, 2013 06:50    Buy   0.0045   10   0.0450   BTC
April 08, 2013 06:50    Buy   0.0042   5   0.0210   BTC
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hi JD,

i just "invested" almost 1 btc in your bussiness, since i don't think btc will double the price at witch i bought it (almost 220$) until the next difficulty (2015?).

Now, i looked your posts, and i will not be a smart person if i didn't warn you.

1-Security: 2FA everywhere, yubikey/google authenticator, included lastpass for random 14 characters different password everywhere, no java or flash! or use different browsers/pcs.  Even i had problems with some virus after installing office from dubious sources.

2- Trading, do you use a trading bot... i will sugest don't have all the coins at mtgox. Use armory to do offline wallet, put half there, use truecrypt to store the keys and backup the file to usb/dropbox.

3-The price of your stock, if btc goes up more than what you pay in dividends, your stock will go down, it's a paradox...

I will suggest paying your dividends in [insert alt currency] or in buy-backs like you are doing now, but very slowly, just put a giant buy at .005 this month, at .0055 next month, and it has to continue forever, at even smaller increments of 5 to 10% . i see a problem here since there is not enought decimals at cryptostocks...

4-The alt-coins, don't be fooled by the troll-box of btc-e, they are there just for trading purposes of the russian-alt-mining-schemes , this people, know for their pump & dump, will deceive you into putting your btc in them, do not do it: many alt-coins are flawed, proned to 51% atack, controlled by small group of people, and are NOT in development, meaning if a flaw is found in bitcoin it can be fixed but this are just copy-paste coins that don't even bothered to change the readme's txt. Read the real specs of everycoin, PPC unlimited, DVC as a reward for "developers" means they will be exchanged to btc asap! , while other hugely controled NVC per example is too dificult to setup the miner so even a computer technician will have problem doing it , Use only to short/arbitrage between them & btc.

5-Remember all coins are produced at a steady rate, (example 25*6*24=3600btc per day!) if there's no more money in their price should decline, in this regard mtgox and the miners/large coin holders have the key.

TL,DR,
In this forum nobody will blink an eye if you lose all your coins in mtgox, your computer was hack, you send your coins to a scam website etc etc.
So take care.

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hi JD,

i just "invested" almost 1 btc in your bussiness, since i don't think btc will double the price at witch i bought it (almost 220$) until the next difficulty (2015?).

Now, i looked your posts, and i will not be a smart person if i didn't warn you.

1-Security: 2FA everywhere, yubikey/google authenticator, included lastpass for random 14 characters different password everywhere, no java or flash! or use different browsers/pcs.  Even i had problems with some virus after installing office from dubious sources.

2- Trading, do you use a trading bot... i will sugest don't have all the coins at mtgox. Use armory to do offline wallet, put half there, use truecrypt to store the keys and backup the file to usb/dropbox.

3-The price of your stock, if btc goes up more than what you pay in dividends, your stock will go down, it's a paradox...

I will suggest paying your dividends in [insert alt currency] or in buy-backs like you are doing now, but very slowly, just put a giant buy at .005 this month, at .0055 next month, and it has to continue forever, at even smaller increments of 5 to 10% . i see a problem here since there is not enought decimals at cryptostocks...

4-The alt-coins, don't be fooled by the troll-box of btc-e, they are there just for trading purposes of the russian-alt-mining-schemes , this people, know for their pump & dump, will deceive you into putting your btc in them, do not do it: many alt-coins are flawed, proned to 51% atack, controlled by small group of people, and are NOT in development, meaning if a flaw is found in bitcoin it can be fixed but this are just copy-paste coins that don't even bothered to change the readme's txt. Read the real specs of everycoin, PPC unlimited, DVC as a reward for "developers" means they will be exchanged to btc asap! , while other hugely controled NVC per example is too dificult to setup the miner so even a computer technician will have problem doing it , Use only to short/arbitrage between them & btc.

5-Remember all coins are produced at a steady rate, (example 25*6*24=3600btc per day!) if there's no more money in their price should decline, in this regard mtgox and the miners/large coin holders have the key.

TL,DR,
In this forum nobody will blink an eye if you lose all your coins in mtgox, your computer was hack, you send your coins to a scam website etc etc.
So take care.

Thanks for your words.
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December 07, 2013, 12:47:10 PM
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scam or not i find it appealing
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scam or not i find it appealing

I don't think you're paying nearly enough for internet access.

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February 20, 2014, 08:15:02 AM
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Imagine that!! JDBIF, yet another in long line of crypto::stocks scams.  Price just tanked to 0.000002/share, and guess whose responsible?!  You guessed, good ole JDBIF himself!!  Wow...just wow!!

Well, on a positive note...at least he sold nearly all his shares!!  <---sarcasm

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