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September 30, 2013, 10:02:08 PM
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Congratulations to orsoc! They really know their numbers, Markus is the guru.  Cool

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September 30, 2013, 10:02:35 PM
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Let's cool down.. I came here to ruin the fun. Bitfury chips are 55nm and do <0.7 W/Gh. KNCMiner chips are reportedly >1.4W/Gh.

I'm just wondering as I really have no idea, how much would an equivalent miner (in terms of GH/s) from Bitfury cost?

$8000 for 400GH/s October delivery.  With 'pencil mod' you can get over 500GH/s.

Actually with pencil mod / changing R01F resistor, you can get atleast 30% more hashrate from the unit.

That is true.  I'm running two cards ~35GH each, so you could tune Bitfury Full Kit to run at 560 GH, but at $8000 it will never ROI, just like
KNC hardware will never ROI.  Maybe the very first KNC orders will.  Next three weeks is where ROI is.  Past that, forget about it.
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September 30, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
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I for one am not in the least disappointed!!!  

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    If you think KnC is going to have a fully operational ASIC out and shipping in volume by September with those specs, you're almost assuredly bound to be disappointed.
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September 30, 2013, 10:04:01 PM
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Let's cool down.. I came here to ruin the fun. Bitfury chips are 55nm and do <0.7 W/Gh. KNCMiner chips are reportedly >1.4W/Gh.

I'm just wondering as I really have no idea, how much would an equivalent miner (in terms of GH/s) from Bitfury cost?

$8000 for 400GH/s October delivery.  With 'pencil mod' you can get over 500GH/s.

Actually with pencil mod / changing R01F resistor, you can get atleast 30% more hashrate from the unit.

Both Bitfury and KnC are good.  I'm just glad we are one step closer towards killing BFL.
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September 30, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
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It might have peaked at 596, but the sustained speed looks like it's going to be more like 500. I'm ok with 500, especially if they ship out my order within the next week!

I'm more concerned about power at the wall though. KNC seems like its going to be the most power hungry of all the gen 2 ASIC miners.

i guess those guys know their chip. when they announce 576+ then you can bet that they have a reason for doing so.

why should they state 576 an have alot of trouble when everybody would be happy with 500 anyway? doesnt make any sense.

so you can bet it will be 576+

Look we need a beer now, but seriously you would not believe how tight this was. Murphy was a m*therf*cker, more to tell later. As always there's a lot of fine tuning to do when you have a system up and running and you can optimise it, but under time pressure you force out a solution that is good enough. Just enjoying the jelly legs. This has been....pfffff!

Well done you and well done KnC. Have a cool beer and a long sleep tonight - you deserve it. Their chance to rest and look back will have to wait a couple of weeks. Great work.
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September 30, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
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Well that didn't take long, lol.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin-Miner-ASIC-KNC-Jupiter-400-GH-s-/121185860010?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item1c373d79aa



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September 30, 2013, 10:07:54 PM
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   Hashrate Average   Weighted Shares   3 hours   393.61 Gh/s   989763   22.5 minutes   460.17 Gh/s   144640   256 seconds   466.67 Gh/s   27816   128 seconds   437.36 Gh/s   13034

it is doing less than 400 ghs
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September 30, 2013, 10:08:51 PM
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Congratulations are in order for the KNC/ORSOC team, and thanks to Bitcoinorama for sharing today's nailbiting rush for a hashing result before the "midnight deadline"! :-)

I'm quite confident Marcus will be able to tweak the firmware to where those HW errors are small and insignificant, and I'm pretty sure there is a bit more to come (I'm guessing the theoretical max speed is based on nominal voltage...) :-)

So, once again: Well done, to all involved!
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September 30, 2013, 10:10:01 PM
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ORAMA!!! Hashrate!!! Pleaseee!!!!!!!

1% of 500GH = 5GH

It's a 28nm Jalapeno.

But that's a 28nm 5Gh/s delivered on 30th September, riiiiiight? Huh

i feel like you are trying to tell us something.....lol

I'm still trying to determine what a hashing video is?!

Is this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOcI8nK2xI

Wish I had bought a Jup ', just to support the comic relief effort. Maybe I'll buy a ticket when they go on tour! Grin

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B+ for the effort anyway. Congrats.

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also see how many % of HW Errors they are doing, number is huge
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I for one am not in the least disappointed!!!  

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    If you think KnC is going to have a fully operational ASIC out and shipping in volume by September with those specs, you're almost assuredly bound to be disappointed.


I'm printing it tomorrow as a poster and put it in my office at the wall.
Each time I'm pissed I'll look at this statement from Josh - it will save my day for sure.

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September 30, 2013, 10:14:36 PM
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The whole world just one shipment apart...
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September 30, 2013, 10:16:01 PM
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Well, if you purchased today:

Bitfury, 400 GH/s, $8000, delivered in Oct.
KnC, 500 GH/s, $4995, delivered in Nov.

This is somewhere between 1 day and two months difference, based on exact delivery dates. Hard to choose

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September 30, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
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Well, if you purchased today:

Bitfury, 400 GH/s, $8000, delivered in Oct.
KnC, 500 GH/s, $4995, delivered in Nov.

This is somewhere between 1 day and two months difference, based on exact delivery dates. Hard to choose

Well, October-delivery h-boards have been shipping already and they've been delivered today. Yeah, in September.. In September though they're marked as October delivery. Cheesy

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That's a November delivery order if you look at the price.

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September 30, 2013, 10:18:37 PM
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The whole world just one shipment apart...

next diff = ROI - 30%.

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September 30, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
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I noticed the HW error rate, but the results of accepted shares in the screen don't jibe. I suspect the HW errors were valid shares that were not properly submitted because they are running the jupiter off of a Macbook and not its internal mining software. I suspect they are messing with settings right now, which is leading to the wide swings in hash rate their pool stats are displaying.
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September 30, 2013, 10:21:54 PM
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I noticed the HW error rate, but the results of accepted shares in the screen don't jibe. I suspect the HW errors were valid shares that were not properly submitted because they are running the jupiter off of a Macbook and not its internal mining software. I suspect they are messing with settings right now, which is leading to the wide swings in hash rate their pool stats are displaying.

no they are running off the beaglebone not the macbook.
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September 30, 2013, 10:25:24 PM
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also see how many % of HW Errors they are doing, number is huge

You know I face the facts, the ugly ones, too - but I'm very happy with it.
Why? because THEY JUST GOT IT UP & RUNNING under incredible time & psycho pressure!

Image you are the guy responsible that the f'ing hashrate finally goes above some shitty 1% before 23:59.
They did great. As engineer I'm more than impressed - even can't find the right words to express the wow.


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tuning will follow, let's see Smiley

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