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October 22, 2013, 03:45:30 AM
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I'll probably not break even with my Saturn and lose money. Kind of sucks...and the only way to get out of that is to actually buy more hashing power. The cycle never ends really. I'm  a solid 279Gh/s according to cgminer but I don't know what all those other numbers on the screen are. I'm trying to take a screen shot of that screen and do  a break down to help people out on what everything means. Reading it from a text file leads much to be desired. I crudely took a screen shot and point some arrows and maybe can make a one stop shop for what all those numbers mean on this one page.


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October 22, 2013, 03:47:38 AM
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....

I momentarily even saw the web interface, but when I told it my stratum URL for my p2pool it somehow told the power supply to shut down.

....
The Saturn comes on for a minute or two, but before I can even ping it a bright white light shines and it apparently tells the power supply to shut down again.
....
Any idea what-all that behavior might be trying to convey?

-MarkM-


Its the overload protection of the PSU kicking in. On the 4VRM boards with firmware < 0.95, I have seen the wattage jumping up (and consuming more power than a >=0.95 FW) and down which would explain why the PSU is shutting down in order to protect itself

This issue was fixed in >= 0.95. I had a seasonic 1050W which was also doing that and had to rebalance the PCIE connectors to get it up and flash it

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October 22, 2013, 03:48:47 AM
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Mining Bitcoins is like growing pines on a residential property.  Ain't nobody's business 'till ya sell 'em.



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October 22, 2013, 03:58:02 AM
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I'll probably not break even with my Saturn and lose money. Kind of sucks...and the only way to get out of that is to actually buy more hashing power. The cycle never ends really. I'm  a solid 279Gh/s according to cgminer but I don't know what all those other numbers on the screen are. I'm trying to take a screen shot of that screen and do  a break down to help people out on what everything means. Reading it from a text file leads much to be desired. I crudely took a screen shot and point some arrows and maybe can make a one stop shop for what all those numbers mean on this one page.



A:  Number of Accepted shares.
R:  Number of Rejected shares.
HW:  Number of Hardware Errors.
U:  Utility which is described as the number of shares completed in a single minute.
WU:  Work Utility, this is essentially how useful your the work you are doing is.  This is determined like Utility, but is weighed based on the difficulty of the shares being completed.
ST:  Number of shares current in your queue.
SS:  Number of Stale Shares.
NB:  Number of New Blocks detected.
LW:  Amount of work locally generated.
GF:  Number of GetWork requests that have failed.
RF:  Number of Submits that have failed as a result of connection problems.

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October 22, 2013, 04:35:38 AM
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Well I don't know how to tell you all this.

So I will just tell you.

My Saturn arrived today after a 6.5 day trip from Sweden to my home in the Northern Florida area.

The box....... almost pristine. Few small tears. Open the box there is some extra pink foam on the sides of the miner in addition to the end foam.

Inside the miner, I opened it up........pristine. No fans hanging off, no loose wires, no heatsink plastic, FLAWLESS

I plug my Corsair HX850 into the unit, plug in the Ethernet, put in the "paper clip"
Find it on the network, login in all looks well.

It has the .95 firmware

Its hashing at between 260 and 274GH to BTCGuild. Between 45-51C on the chips.

So I was dying to screw with it, take it apart, put it back together again, tweak it, mess with it.

I can't, I shouldn't, it just works.

What am I missing?

You have to tear it apart and spend 3 or 4 days tinkering with it and messing about with firmware to get an extra 20GH/s like everyone else in this thread.  You don't actually want to mine with it, do you?  You can mine when difficulty is 3 times what it is today.   Roll Eyes

Seriously, congratulations!  Just let that thing hash away.  You'll have plenty of time to tinker with it in a few months.
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October 22, 2013, 04:47:32 AM
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 Tongue Grin
Well I don't know how to tell you all this.

So I will just tell you.

My Saturn arrived today after a 6.5 day trip from Sweden to my home in the Northern Florida area.

The box....... almost pristine. Few small tears. Open the box there is some extra pink foam on the sides of the miner in addition to the end foam.

Inside the miner, I opened it up........pristine. No fans hanging off, no loose wires, no heatsink plastic, FLAWLESS

I plug my Corsair HX850 into the unit, plug in the Ethernet, put in the "paper clip"
Find it on the network, login in all looks well.

It has the .95 firmware

Its hashing at between 260 and 274GH to BTCGuild. Between 45-51C on the chips.

So I was dying to screw with it, take it apart, put it back together again, tweak it, mess with it.

I can't, I shouldn't, it just works.

What am I missing?

You have to tear it apart and spend 3 or 4 days tinkering with it and messing about with firmware to get an extra 20GH/s like everyone else in this thread.  You don't actually want to mine with it, do you?  You can mine when difficulty is 3 times what it is today.  

Seriously, congratulations!  Just let that thing hash away.  You'll have plenty of time to tinker with it in a few months.
I respectfully disagree....
I think it's better to tweak'em right now, while those extra Gh/s actually still mean something! Tongue


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October 22, 2013, 05:11:13 AM
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Tongue Grin
Well I don't know how to tell you all this.

So I will just tell you.

My Saturn arrived today after a 6.5 day trip from Sweden to my home in the Northern Florida area.

The box....... almost pristine. Few small tears. Open the box there is some extra pink foam on the sides of the miner in addition to the end foam.

Inside the miner, I opened it up........pristine. No fans hanging off, no loose wires, no heatsink plastic, FLAWLESS

I plug my Corsair HX850 into the unit, plug in the Ethernet, put in the "paper clip"
Find it on the network, login in all looks well.

It has the .95 firmware

Its hashing at between 260 and 274GH to BTCGuild. Between 45-51C on the chips.

So I was dying to screw with it, take it apart, put it back together again, tweak it, mess with it.

I can't, I shouldn't, it just works.

What am I missing?

You have to tear it apart and spend 3 or 4 days tinkering with it and messing about with firmware to get an extra 20GH/s like everyone else in this thread.  You don't actually want to mine with it, do you?  You can mine when difficulty is 3 times what it is today.  

Seriously, congratulations!  Just let that thing hash away.  You'll have plenty of time to tinker with it in a few months.
I respectfully disagree....
I think it's better to tweak'em right now, while those extra Gh/s actually still mean something! Tongue

If your miner is a dog, then yes, you need to at least try to get it running well. But if there's nothing wrong, why mess around with it?  You're wasting valuable hashing time! Just wait until the next firmware update to see if it nets you a few more GH/s.
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October 22, 2013, 05:38:10 AM
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I'll probably not break even with my Saturn and lose money. Kind of sucks...and the only way to get out of that is to actually buy more hashing power. The cycle never ends really. I'm  a solid 279Gh/s according to cgminer but I don't know what all those other numbers on the screen are. I'm trying to take a screen shot of that screen and do  a break down to help people out on what everything means. Reading it from a text file leads much to be desired. I crudely took a screen shot and point some arrows and maybe can make a one stop shop for what all those numbers mean on this one page.



A:  Number of Accepted shares.
R:  Number of Rejected shares.
HW:  Number of Hardware Errors.
U:  Utility which is described as the number of shares completed in a single minute.
WU:  Work Utility, this is essentially how useful your the work you are doing is.  This is determined like Utility, but is weighed based on the difficulty of the shares being completed.
ST:  Number of shares current in your queue.
SS:  Number of Stale Shares.
NB:  Number of New Blocks detected.
LW:  Amount of work locally generated.
GF:  Number of GetWork requests that have failed.
RF:  Number of Submits that have failed as a result of connection problems.

What is NB:  Number of New Blocks detected??
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October 22, 2013, 05:57:12 AM
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cat >/etc/opkg/feeds.conf <<\EOF
src/gz noarch http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2013.06/ipk/eglibc/all/
src/gz base http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2013.06/ipk/eglibc/cortexa8hf-vfp-neon/base/
src/gz debug http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2013.06/ipk/eglibc/cortexa8hf-vfp-neon/debug/
src/gz beaglebone http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2013.06/ipk/eglibc/cortexa8hf-vfp-neon/machine/beaglebone/
src/gz perl http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2013.06/ipk/eglibc/cortexa8hf-vfp-neon/perl/
src/gz python http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2013.06/ipk/eglibc/cortexa8hf-vfp-neon/python/
EOF
opkg update
opkg install angstrom-feed-configs
rm /etc/opkg/feeds.conf
opkg update

opkg install update-alternatives
opkg install automake autoconf make gcc cpp binutils git less pkgconfig-dev ncurses-dev libtool nano bash i2c-tools-dev
while ! opkg install libcurl-dev; do true; done
ln -s aclocal-1.12 /usr/share/aclocal

curl http://www.digip.org/jansson/releases/jansson-2.0.1.tar.bz2 | tar -xjvp
cd jansson-2.0.1
./configure --prefix=/usr CC=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc --disable-static NM=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-nm
make install && ldconfig
cd ..

git clone git://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer -b knc
cd bfgminer
./autogen.sh
git clone git://github.com/troydhanson/uthash
./configure --host=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi --enable-knc CFLAGS=-I$PWD/uthash/src
make AR=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ar

./bfgminer -S knc:auto -c /config/cgminer.conf

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October 22, 2013, 06:25:25 AM
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Any performance/flushwork/etc benefits with BFGminer right now vs. the stock cgminer?
Seems to perform at least as well. More time is needed to figure out if it's notably better.
Code:
bfgminer version 3.3.0 - Started: [2013-10-22 04:02:28] - [  0 days 02:14:20]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 64 with stratum as user 14cbTxT4nN1AFQzEdFURb9co
 Block: ...ed7f12e1 #265245  Diff:268M ( 1.92Ph/s)  Started: [06:23:33]
 ST:2  F:0  NB:29  AS:0  BW:[141/126 B/s]  E:457.72  I:20.14mBTC/hr  BS:939k
 2/379  60.0C | 267.0/269.3/255.2Gh/s | A:6847 R:28+0(.40%) HW:14839/3.0%
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 KNC 0: 60.0C | 134.1/131.7/123.3Gh/s | A:3286 R:19+0(.55%) HW:12796/5.2%
 KNC 1: 55.0C | 140.4/137.7/131.9Gh/s | A:3564 R: 9+0(.25%) HW: 2044/.82%

Also, I seem to be unable to connect using a socks5 proxy with the built-in cgminer, any comment on that, perhaps the compiled curl versions was a problem... How about BFGminer re: socks5/TOR connectivity?
I've not heard any reports of proxy problems with BFGMiner.

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October 22, 2013, 06:45:29 AM
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Okay, received my jupiter today.  Wast getting about 450gh/s with temperatures around 60 degrees C.
I updated to .96 and my temps went down to 40 degrees C. Hashrate stayed about the same.
I loaded up enablecore.bin and it gave me an error while rebooting.  Now everytime I try to go to the miners setup page, it gives me a 404 page not found.

Any ideas??


**** Ignore ^. A hard reset did the trick.
Averaging 480 gh/s with temps around 50.
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October 22, 2013, 06:51:48 AM
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Okay, received my jupiter today.  Wast getting about 450gh/s with temperatures around 60 degrees C.
I updated to .96 and my temps went down to 40 degrees C. Hashrate stayed about the same.
I loaded up enablecore.bin and it gave me an error while rebooting.  Now everytime I try to go to the miners setup page, it gives me a 404 page not found.

Any ideas??

Clear your browser cache
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October 22, 2013, 06:58:41 AM
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Okay, received my jupiter today.  Wast getting about 450gh/s with temperatures around 60 degrees C.
I updated to .96 and my temps went down to 40 degrees C. Hashrate stayed about the same.
I loaded up enablecore.bin and it gave me an error while rebooting.  Now everytime I try to go to the miners setup page, it gives me a 404 page not found.

Any ideas??


**** Ignore ^. A hard reset did the trick.
Averaging 480 gh/s with temps around 50.

clear your cache, or use a different browser....
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October 22, 2013, 07:10:51 AM
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Code:
bfgminer version 3.3.0 - Started: [2013-10-22 04:02:28] - [  0 days 02:14:20]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 64 with stratum as user 14cbTxT4nN1AFQzEdFURb9co
 Block: ...ed7f12e1 #265245  Diff:268M ( 1.92Ph/s)  Started: [06:23:33]
 ST:2  F:0  NB:29  AS:0  BW:[141/126 B/s]  E:457.72  I:20.14mBTC/hr  BS:939k
 2/379  60.0C | 267.0/269.3/255.2Gh/s | A:6847 R:28+0(.40%) HW:14839/3.0%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 KNC 0: 60.0C | 134.1/131.7/123.3Gh/s | A:3286 R:19+0(.55%) HW:12796/5.2%
 KNC 1: 55.0C | 140.4/137.7/131.9Gh/s | A:3564 R: 9+0(.25%) HW: 2044/.82%

Kudos! You're fast Tongue

I really appreciate that BFGminer split stats per asic slot, very useful.
So from the statistics you reported here it seems that the core with higher temp perform worse and has a lot of HW error more.
I'm really looking forward to use BFGminer on my jups.


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October 22, 2013, 08:34:34 AM
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I tried the bfgminer installation from Luke-Jr on my Saturn running 0.96.

Installation & compilation went through fine.
"bfgminer -h" works

Starting bfgminer as described (of course I "q"uit the original cgminer first) results in a Segmentation fault and
the TTY settings broken and a cleared screen.

"<ctrl-j> stty sane <ctrl-j>" fixed this.

Started the bfgminer with "| less" to see what's happening:

[2013-10-22 08:23:27] Started bfgminer 3.3.0
[2013-10-22 08:23:27] Loaded configuration file /config/cgminer.conf
[2013-10-22 08:23:27] Probing for an alive pool
[2013-10-22 08:23:28] Switching to pool 1 http://stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 - first alive pool
[2013-10-22 08:23:28] Network difficulty changed to 268M ( 1.92Ph/s)
[2013-10-22 08:23:28] Stratum from pool 1 detected new block
[2013-10-22 08:23:28] Pool 1 is hiding block contents from us
[2013-10-22 08:23:29] Pool 0 http://mint.bitminter.com:3333 alive
[2013-10-22 08:23:29] Switching to pool 0 http://mint.bitminter.com:3333
[2013-10-22 08:23:29] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update
[2013-10-22 08:23:29] Pool 0 is hiding block contents from us
Segmentation fault

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ESC)0ESC7ESC[?47hESC[1;40rESC[mESC[4lESC[mESC[?1hESC=ESC[mESC[mESC[HESC[2JESC[8B [2013-10-22 08:23:27] Started bfgminer 3.3.0^MESC[2B [2013-10-22 08:23:27] Loaded configuration file /config/cgminer.conf^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:27] Probing for an alive pool^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:28] Switching to pool 1 http://stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 - first alive pool^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:28] Network difficulty changed to 268M ( 1.92Ph/s)^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:28] Stratum from pool 1 detected new block^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:28] Pool 1 is hiding block contents from us^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:29] Pool 0 http://mint.bitminter.com:3333 alive^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:29] Switching to pool 0 http://mint.bitminter.com:3333^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:29] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update^M
                                                                                        ^MESC[1B [2013-10-22 08:23:29] Pool 0 is hiding block contents from usESC[HESC[2J
                          (END)Segmentation fault

Problem could be reproduced.

I switched back to the original cgminer.

My config has 2 pools in there: Bitminter/Slush (bitcoin.cz)
Bitminter uses a "min. diff" of 256.

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October 22, 2013, 08:39:49 AM
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Just wanted to check whether everyone received your miners (100 BTC/Jupiter) so far, able to earn at least 75 BTC/Jupiter? Cool

Because next week, November miners due for release which are only 25 BTC/Jupiter.

So, what's the moral of the story? Huh

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October 22, 2013, 08:44:21 AM
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i still havent recived my miner.

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October 22, 2013, 08:51:24 AM
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Just wanted to check whether everyone received your miners (100 BTC/Jupiter) so far, able to earn at least 75 BTC/Jupiter? Cool

Because next week, November miners due for release which are only 25 BTC/Jupiter.

So, what's the moral of the story? Huh
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If anyone is interested I'm selling Jupiters in hand, immediate delivery: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=315781

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October 22, 2013, 08:55:34 AM
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Update: The regular flushworks are pulling down the performance.
Please ignore my post / idea.

Hi,

I just noticed something very interesting while trying to get bfgminer work:

I "q"uit cgminer and the screen session terminated.
I then started cgminer manually with

# cgminer -c /config/cgminer.conf

As a result the BertMod tool is not working anymore but on the other hand, the performance did go up
like 4GH (on a Saturn) to 274.4-275. A value that I never managed to see stable for a long time.
Of course I don't have any long-term experience yet. Maybe someone else wants to try this.

cgminer is currently not running in a screen session but directly. Might be a reason for the better performance as well.

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