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October 25, 2013, 03:05:41 PM
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EUREKA!
I just discovered something.
They don't like to be OVERCOOLED either!

funny i was having the same thought after seeing them cooled and no real change, as well as others mentioning that they ran their unit hot on .90, that it might allow chip to seat better in solder or something like that....

what stats u got phoenix1969?
its too early to tell because it will take time for my averages to come up, but it looks to be the final tweak, like it may end up 275, 280+, 280+
im optimistic, but definitely see an increase, and within 2 mins...
all I did was shut my boxfan off
I was all proud of my 32C temps, lol...they like 55
And you now have 200+watts more at the wall for each Saturn?



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October 25, 2013, 03:06:17 PM
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Here is the latest on just the one board.  It is running steady at 104Gh and 10% HW errors and 90W.  Now that's just not right is it?  RMA?


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October 25, 2013, 03:06:47 PM
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same here phoenix when i turn on the aircon on i got 47c @ 255ghz
aircon off temps @ 54 running 265...

thanks for the report.

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October 25, 2013, 03:15:04 PM
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same here phoenix when i turn on the aircon on i got 47c @ 255ghz
aircon off temps @ 54 running 265...

thanks for the report.
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October 25, 2013, 03:15:10 PM
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Still waiting for hosted 39xx Saturn. Looks like it won't be this week either.

Got a reply today (25th of October) to my extensive request from yesterday, where I also asked about compensation as non-hosted miners after my queue place are being shipped and deployed:

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We are terribly sorry for delay with setting up your miner in the hosting facility.

Our engineers are working on it as fast as possible and applying all the efforts.

You should be receiving log in details very shortly.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have further questions.

Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
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Compare it to another reply from the 22nd of October:

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Hi,

We are aware that there is also a delay with the hosting compared with the shipping orders, but the engineers are working to get your miner up as soon as possible.

Thanks
Emilia

Med vänlig hälsning  |  Best regards
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Hmm...  Roll Eyes

Oh, and difficulty goes to 387.080.588 (from 267.731.249) tonight-ish.

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October 25, 2013, 03:15:28 PM
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EUREKA!
I just discovered something.
They don't like to be OVERCOOLED either!

funny i was having the same thought after seeing them cooled and no real change, as well as others mentioning that they ran their unit hot on .90, that it might allow chip to seat better in solder or something like that....

what stats u got phoenix1969?
its too early to tell because it will take time for my averages to come up, but it looks to be the final tweak, like it may end up 275, 280+, 280+
im optimistic, but definitely see an increase, and within 2 mins...
all I did was shut my boxfan off
I was all proud of my 32C temps, lol...they like 55
And you now have 200+watts more at the wall for each Saturn?

Down here where it might cost $5.50/100watts/month, and I think the difference per module is more like 148w now up to 258w, at the wall for me with a somewhat less efficient power supply, but if yours goes up 150w/module at the wall to 250w/module at the wall you're looking at 400watts/hour for for a month.  If at 7.5¢/kwh it costs me ~$5.50/100watts continually for a month, then at Hawaii power rates and 4 modules not 1, what will your power cost increase be?  Of course the BBB power is now divided by 4 so that's a little less.



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October 25, 2013, 03:49:55 PM
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Jupiter is underperforming?


2 cores is a lot?
underperformance by 25%
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October 25, 2013, 03:54:38 PM
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2 cores is practically nothing.  That shouldnt cause significant performance issues. That's 1% of cores not working on a die, or a couple of GH/s
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October 25, 2013, 04:00:51 PM
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EUREKA!
I just discovered something.
They don't like to be OVERCOOLED either!

funny i was having the same thought after seeing them cooled and no real change, as well as others mentioning that they ran their unit hot on .90, that it might allow chip to seat better in solder or something like that....

what stats u got phoenix1969?
its too early to tell because it will take time for my averages to come up, but it looks to be the final tweak, like it may end up 275, 280+, 280+
im optimistic, but definitely see an increase, and within 2 mins...
all I did was shut my boxfan off
I was all proud of my 32C temps, lol...they like 55

can confirm that with my saturn but not with my jup. the jup is slower without a big fan.
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October 25, 2013, 04:03:31 PM
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2 cores is practically nothing.  That shouldnt cause significant performance issues. That's 1% of cores not working on a die, or a couple of GH/s

but this one is performing 25% worse than normal one
Good One shares 7630336 (99.78%)
This Bad One shares 6264832 (99.64%)

How to find out where the problem is ?
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October 25, 2013, 04:07:32 PM
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2 cores is practically nothing.  That shouldnt cause significant performance issues. That's 1% of cores not working on a die, or a couple of GH/s

but this one is performing 25% worse than normal one
Good One shares 7630336 (99.78%)
This Bad One shares 6264832 (99.64%)

How to find out where the problem is ?


In your post in the other thread you posted more data which showed a >17% HW error rate, which accounts for a lot of the under-performance.  By contrast, my Saturn has well under 2% HW errors.  I also noticed that ASIC board #3 is getting a lot hotter than the others - ~74C vs ~54C on the others.  That might be where your problem lies.
 

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October 25, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
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EUREKA!
I just discovered something.
They don't like to be OVERCOOLED either!

funny i was having the same thought after seeing them cooled and no real change, as well as others mentioning that they ran their unit hot on .90, that it might allow chip to seat better in solder or something like that....

what stats u got phoenix1969?
its too early to tell because it will take time for my averages to come up, but it looks to be the final tweak, like it may end up 275, 280+, 280+
im optimistic, but definitely see an increase, and within 2 mins...
all I did was shut my boxfan off
I was all proud of my 32C temps, lol...they like 55

can confirm that with my saturn but not with my jup. the jup is slower without a big fan.

I've tried the same, but when the chips went up to 50C I've lost 20Ghs.

So now I try to cool as much as I can...

It gives between 550-560. 560 if I can cool down enough. So what the heck?

Oh yes, the top of the box is on....

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October 25, 2013, 04:11:30 PM
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2 cores is practically nothing.  That shouldnt cause significant performance issues. That's 1% of cores not working on a die, or a couple of GH/s

but this one is performing 25% worse than normal one
Good One shares 7630336 (99.78%)
This Bad One shares 6264832 (99.64%)

How to find out where the problem is ?


In your post in the other thread you posted more data which showed a >17% HW error rate, which accounts for a lot of the under-performance.  By contrast, my Saturn has well under 2% HW errors.  I also noticed that ASIC board #3 is getting a lot hotter than the others - ~74C vs ~54C on the others.  That might be where your problem lies.
 





This one is underperforming.
Is this RMA case or I can fix something on my own?

Shares are being counted from exact single moment.

bad one 470.35 GH/s   6320640 (99.64%)   22528 / 24064 / 0

cgminer version 3.4.0 - Started: [2013-10-24 20:50:57]
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 (5s):526.5G (avg):514.5Gh/s | A:7174144  R:56320  HW:1933296  WU:7887.7/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 190  LW: 8989291  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to ubtcguild.com diff 512 with stratum as user
 Block: 0000c6e08eb048ec...  Diff:268M  Started: [16:06:23]  Best share: 83.3M
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 KnC 0:                | 529.6G/514.5Gh/s | A:7174656 R:56320 HW:1933383 WU: 7888.0/m
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 [2013-10-25 16:08:22] Accepted 0055cf53 Diff 763/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:08:23] Accepted 00007e76 Diff 133K/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:08:24] Accepted 006596f9 Diff 645/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:08:24] Accepted 001fde5d Diff 2.06K/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:08:26] Accepted 0074d20b Diff 560/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:08:27] Accepted 004af4d2 Diff 874/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:08:28] Accepted 007634ca Diff 554/512 KnC 0



this is the good one

542.43 GH/s   7697920 (99.78%)   16896 / 38400 / 0

 cgminer version 3.4.0 - Started: [2013-10-24 00:42:22]
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 (5s):581.3G (avg):548.2Gh/s | A:17935872  R:132096  HW:958395  WU:8023.7/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 362  LW: 19464588  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to btcguild.com diff 512 with stratum as user
 Block: 0000c6e08eb048ec...  Diff:268M  Started: [16:06:23]  Best share: 21.8M
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 [P]ool management ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 KnC 0:                | 533.4G/548.2Gh/s | A:17936384 R:132096 HW:958411 WU: 8023.9/m
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 [2013-10-25 16:09:22] Accepted 0073fba7 Diff 565/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:25] Accepted 00378c46 Diff 1.18K/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:25] Accepted 0077b6c6 Diff 547/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:30] Accepted 006cac73 Diff 603/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:49] Accepted 000b1fc9 Diff 5.89K/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:50] Accepted 003f691f Diff 1.03K/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:53] Accepted 001d375e Diff 2.24K/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:54] Accepted 002e6e7d Diff 1.41K/512 KnC 0
 [2013-10-25 16:09:57] Accepted 00590299 Diff 736/512 KnC 0
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 [2013-10-25 16:10:14] Accepted 00307a06 Diff 1.35K/512 KnC 0
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October 25, 2013, 04:15:09 PM
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2 cores is practically nothing.  That shouldnt cause significant performance issues. That's 1% of cores not working on a die, or a couple of GH/s

but this one is performing 25% worse than normal one
Good One shares 7630336 (99.78%)
This Bad One shares 6264832 (99.64%)

How to find out where the problem is ?


Find out at what page users started reporting reception of miners and what they did that was or was not successful at improving performance.  (chuckles)

I'd suggest shutting down, then putting light pressure on the tops of the VRMs one at a time.  Don't expect to put enough pressure to get a snap sound.  Then boot and install firmware 0.90, run enablecores.bin, shutdown, wait 30 seconds, startup.  Open a new browser, go to your webpage address, sign in, hit check status, wait a few seconds, give it a control+F5, the browser refreshes, at this point sometimes it will only show 2 or 3 cores.  Close IE, open a new instance of IE, repeat the process, you should now see all cores and at what percentage they're running.  If there's an improvement you can move up in firmware versions or stay with 0.90.  Anything over 0.94 will use less energy.  Then decide if the increased power usage warrants the additional GH/s and go with the firmware you feel is best.

 going back to 0.90, running enablecores.bin,



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October 25, 2013, 04:16:16 PM
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seems like you box has same 20% HW error rate as my saturn....it is firmware related i believe, then again, i don't know diddly.

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October 25, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
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How fast will KFCMiner do RMA?
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October 25, 2013, 04:19:45 PM
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2 cores is practically nothing.  That shouldnt cause significant performance issues. That's 1% of cores not working on a die, or a couple of GH/s

but this one is performing 25% worse than normal one
Good One shares 7630336 (99.78%)
This Bad One shares 6264832 (99.64%)

How to find out where the problem is ?


Find out at what page users started reporting reception of miners and what they did that was or was not successful at improving performance.  (chuckles)

I'd suggest shutting down, then putting light pressure on the tops of the VRMs one at a time.  Don't expect to put enough pressure to get a snap sound.  Then boot and install firmware 0.90, run enablecores.bin, shutdown, wait 30 seconds, startup.  Open a new browser, go to your webpage address, sign in, hit check status, wait a few seconds, give it a control+F5, the browser refreshes, at this point sometimes it will only show 2 or 3 cores.  Close IE, open a new instance of IE, repeat the process, you should now see all cores and at what percentage they're running.  If there's an improvement you can move up in firmware versions or stay with 0.90.  Anything over 0.94 will use less energy.  Then decide if the increased power usage warrants the additional GH/s and go with the firmware you feel is best.

 going back to 0.90, running enablecores.bin,

well then I'll try your idea ....
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October 25, 2013, 04:20:02 PM
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seems like you box has same 20% HW error rate as my saturn....it is firmware related i believe, then again, i don't know diddly.



I was getting >50% HW errors with firmwares over 0.94.  Moving down and enabling cores, using the higher voltage I get 4.5% (my maht hw*100/accepted).



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October 25, 2013, 04:20:18 PM
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How fast will KFCMiner do RMA?

However long it takes to ship to them + 1 day of testing  + shipping back. Realistically, it's around 4-5 days.

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October 25, 2013, 04:22:36 PM
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Crap,  everyone is reporting their chips running in the 45 degree range.  I have one at 48, two at 55 and one at 64.  I'm hashing at a pretty stable rate of around 540-550.  Should I be concerned about the temps?

No, mines the same. People are chasing ghosts around here.

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