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November 02, 2013, 08:26:11 AM
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I'm quite happy with the products I got from KNC, and Quite happy they weren't later than a couple lousy weeks...
In the 2 weeks I've had my machines running, they have made back more than 1/3rd my origonal
$3897.60 x 3(saturns) = $11,692.80
I've earned 22 BTC x XBT(198) = $4,356.00
which is over 37% of the original purchase price, plus shipping.
(not to mention the 63 Namecoin I also earned)
I have no doubt they will reach ROI, and beyond...
Thank-You  KNC


Are you also selling your BTC for fiat? If not, to get a completely honest answer you should be doing your calcs in what you would have paid in BTC when you ordered. BTC has appreciated significantly against the USD since you would have ordered.
I paid in Fiat, so that's as "honest" as it gets...
I even used the xbt price, when I can still sell @ Gox!
So, stick that in your pipe, and smoke it!   Grin  Grin  Grin
I actually plan on holding my BTC for $2,000.00/btc   hehe
But yeah... I see what you're gettin' at...

Just another parasite in it for the profit.
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November 02, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
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I'm quite happy with the products I got from KNC, and Quite happy they weren't later than a couple lousy weeks...
In the 2 weeks I've had my machines running, they have made back more than 1/3rd my origonal
$3897.60 x 3(saturns) = $11,692.80
I've earned 22 BTC x XBT(198) = $4,356.00
which is over 37% of the original purchase price, plus shipping.
(not to mention the 63 Namecoin I also earned)
I have no doubt they will reach ROI, and beyond...
Thank-You  KNC


Are you also selling your BTC for fiat? If not, to get a completely honest answer you should be doing your calcs in what you would have paid in BTC when you ordered. BTC has appreciated significantly against the USD since you would have ordered.
I paid in Fiat, so that's as "honest" as it gets...
I even used the xbt price, when I can still sell @ Gox!
So, stick that in your pipe, and smoke it!   Grin  Grin  Grin
I actually plan on holding my BTC for $2,000.00/btc   hehe
But yeah... I see what you're gettin' at...

Just another parasite in it for the profit.
Oh, so you just spend thousands for fun, or just to chip in...
gimme a break....  Tongue


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November 02, 2013, 09:15:11 AM
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at the moment, all 6 boards(3 sats) are between 69-73C, no case fans whatsoever, heatsink fans only. cases off, stacked, with cardboard partially blocking the fans airflow into the heatsink, like this...

I have to say thats pretty hilarious and intriguing. WHile everyone is trying their damnest to keep miners cool, KnC owners are disabling and blocking fans.
This thread is too long to keep up with, so sorry if this has been asked or answered before, but 3 questions spring to mind

1) has anyone tried testing if its the asic or the VRMs that cause it run better at higher temps? See, I might understand it if its the VRMs, I dont understand it if its the asic.
2) has anyone figured out a way to read clockspeeds, and if so, does the warmer asic run at higher clockspeeds?
3) has KnC commented on this weird phenomena?
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November 02, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
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I spoke to soon. My fathers Saturn, which has been running great since we got it displays this on the cgminer output screen sometimes.

013-11-02 09:28:09] KnC: core 0-34 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row
 [2013-11-02 09:28:14] KnC: core 4-166 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row

Is there a particular cause of this and is it something that can be fixed? I have ran enabledallcores and using .98 firmware. Just sub-standard hardware?


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November 02, 2013, 10:48:15 AM
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Do you think people who bought BFL products are turning their machines off?


No. With increased difficulty, when BFL products are not profitable anymore, these still can be used as room heaters for those who need it

I was "forced" to upgrade to their next product monarchs.ie or my current stuff is "bricks" but the jally I did keep I got on Halloween and it will make more in PPcoin then BTC according to www.dustcoin.com or so it was a few days ago

the best plan I can see for making money on BTC is to "announce a product" get the money..and don't ship it till way way late if ever....BFL has more money then god and no operating expenses due to never buying parts in mass or shipping products......brilliant in an evil genius type of way

so yeah I'll mine the jally on something at 35watts...I can speculate in imaginary gains on alt coins for a long long time (denial its a bitch)

and I had my KNC Jupiter shipped on oct 15th got it oct 18th and just to be contrary...I DON'T expect to make ROI with the other stuff coming out from cointerra etc

main reason is BFL has at least as much stuff to ship still outstanding from what they have shipped before April onward from the bitcoin boom in april..imho they have as much or more....so that with KNC's 2nd batch is pretty much gonna drive a spike thru the heart of mining by Jan imho

so mentally I'm treating this as a bobsled run ..the speed was nice..and I made good time but the crash is going to be spectacular....ie....anyone asks its a "hobby" ....not a business (i'll LIE....denial .after BFL all I have left....don't ya know)

but NO new mining equip for me....not till next summer the way it looks like equip wise imho if ever...and if BTC was to crash to 1/2 of todays value...well....I'm not gonna think about that will scare my little self....

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November 02, 2013, 11:52:08 AM
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I'm quite happy with the products I got from KNC, and Quite happy they weren't later than a couple lousy weeks...
In the 2 weeks I've had my machines running, they have made back more than 1/3rd my origonal
$3897.60 x 3(saturns) = $11,692.80
I've earned 22 BTC x XBT(198) = $4,356.00
which is over 37% of the original purchase price, plus shipping.
(not to mention the 63 Namecoin I also earned)
I have no doubt they will reach ROI, and beyond...
Thank-You  KNC


Are you also selling your BTC for fiat? If not, to get a completely honest answer you should be doing your calcs in what you would have paid in BTC when you ordered. BTC has appreciated significantly against the USD since you would have ordered.
I paid in Fiat, so that's as "honest" as it gets...
I even used the xbt price, when I can still sell @ Gox!
So, stick that in your pipe, and smoke it!   Grin  Grin  Grin
I actually plan on holding my BTC for $2,000.00/btc   hehe
But yeah... I see what you're gettin' at...

Just another parasite in it for the profit.

Damn straight I'm in it for profit! Why should I waste my time and energy making sure these two Jupiter's I have are running in tip top shape so I can get the most in my return. I've mined a good bit of BTC since Oct 8th and 11th when I received my two miners and I'm more than halfway to ROI. Why do anything in life if you get some sort of satisfaction or pleasure in doing something? Building wealth is one thing that brings me these things... Also added stress with the high volatility and risk in the BTC ecosystem.
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November 02, 2013, 11:53:14 AM
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what exactly do and is these safe the unofficial version
0.98.1
Huh?
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November 02, 2013, 12:01:04 PM
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I know that KNC team is working hard to deliver the best product, but confronting the facts, I must say I am a little disappointed.

The Jupiter miner I received was running at 280 Ghash/s on firmware v0.95. That became a 0 Ghash/s miner after upgrading firmware to 0.97... Firmware revision v0.98 brought my miner back to life, but I now have poor performance.

Back in late september when I was considering asking for a refund, I was lead to think that I was going to receive on the 15th of October a 550Ghash/s miner with less than 1W/(Ghash/s) electric consumption.

What I got on the 29th of October was a 400 ghash/s Jupiter, consuming 535 Watts (1.35W/(Gh/s)).

I have ~15BTC of lost income due to late delivery and since delivery 25% lost of income per day (@todays diff~0.18BTC) due to lack of performance
And with this you add bad life time due to poor efficiency (Ghash/J).... lets say I too am a little screwed up.

I emailed them on those matter, and even if they are kindly looking on my technical problems, they choose not to answer or missed the real issue...
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November 02, 2013, 12:06:14 PM
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I know that KNC team is working hard to deliver the best product, but confronting the facts, I must say I am a little disappointed.

The Jupiter miner I received was running at 280 Ghash/s on firmware v0.95. That became a 0 Ghash/s miner after upgrading firmware to 0.97... Firmware revision v0.98 brought my miner back to life, but I now have poor performance.

Back in late september when I was considering asking for a refund, I was lead to think that I was going to receive on the 15th of October a 550Ghash/s miner with less than 1W/(Ghash/s) electric consumption.

What I got on the 29th of October was a 400 ghash/s Jupiter, consuming 535 Watts (1.35W/(Gh/s)).

I have ~15BTC of lost income due to late delivery and since delivery 25% lost of income per day (@todays diff~0.18BTC) due to lack of performance
And with this you add bad life time due to poor efficiency (Ghash/J).... lets say I too am a little screwed up.

I emailed them on those matter, and even if they are kindly looking on my technical problems, they choose not to answer or missed the real issue...


You have to admint that they are selling only to trick ppl

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November 02, 2013, 12:09:59 PM
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Tired of substandard power distribution in your ASIC setup???   Chris' Custom Cablez will get you sorted out right!  No job too hard so PM me for a quote
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November 02, 2013, 12:16:27 PM
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013


nice one post, thx for the informations. BTC is not unkown to other ppl. Everyone has heard for BTC

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November 02, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
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Hey guys,

Just to let you know that I have released BertMod 0.3 :
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/13938-bertmod-0-3-unofficial-firmware-mod-feedback-thread

It now includes bfgminer from Nov 1st !

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November 02, 2013, 12:39:00 PM
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Hey guys,

Just to let you know that I have released BertMod 0.3 :
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/13938-bertmod-0-3-unofficial-firmware-mod-feedback-thread

It now includes bfgminer from Nov 1st !

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wil try it thx man !

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November 02, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
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Had an interesting incident last night. I check my email after six hours and it says the KNC is dead, so I check with Putty and line after line says the share I'm submitting is from the previous block. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not sure if it is a cgminer error after running for 3 days or if it's because I'm playing around with a hotter miner. Anyways, resetting the miner worked and it's back to normal. We did have slightly warmer weather yesterday, but I never saw a temp higher than 48 on the miner. I would have grabbed a screenshot, but was worried I bricked the miner. lol  If it happens again, I will grab one though.

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November 02, 2013, 12:50:14 PM
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Had an interesting incident last night. I check my email after six hours and it says the KNC is dead, so I check with Putty and line after line says the share I'm submitting is from the previous block. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not sure if it is a cgminer error after running for 3 days or if it's because I'm playing around with a hotter miner. Anyways, resetting the miner worked and it's back to normal. We did have slightly warmer weather yesterday, but I never saw a temp higher than 48 on the miner. I would have grabbed a screenshot, but was worried I bricked the miner. lol  If it happens again, I will grab one though.

Just a note about the temps. I really don't think they are measured at the ASIC so careful with those. Wasn't it you measuring them with an IR thermometer though?

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November 02, 2013, 01:05:43 PM
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Yes, after this incident, I used the IR gun and found nothing over 140F I think it was.
Trying Bertmod right now. Seems much slower mining, but I will give it some time.

Speed is ~23% of what I was getting with cg...


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November 02, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
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Hehe. Currently at 37,000 feet doing 720mph heading from beijing to san francisco, so I am bored and keep refreshing btcguild stats. I've got a jupiter running at 520 and a sickly saturn doing 210, but I noticed my rankings says I hit a block at some point. In the past two days since Inlast checked my rankings. Is there a Quick and dirty way on btcg to tell which block was mine? I don't have port forwarding setup on my network to remotely manage my miners, which means I can't get to ssh into cgminer, (but will be able to in about 16 hours).

 Is there a log file on the miner which will show me found blocks if btcg won't? I am a diehard windows user since my dad brought home v 1.0 around 1986, so you gotta talk to me about angstrom like I'm a baby. Once I ssh in, how would I find the log files that I assume it keeps?

Damn it feels good to finally find a block and actually feel like I've contributed to the btc community rather than just collecting pplns payments for twiddling my thumbs.

Thanks guys n gals,

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November 02, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
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Can you run enablecores on top of BertMod? Doesn't that require a reboot? I know if I reboot BertMod will disappear, but after 37 mins it is creeping up in speed, but still less than half of cg.

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November 02, 2013, 02:12:37 PM
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Go thru that list and laugh at all the failure....

ASICMiner? Haven't shown much as of yet and gen 2 was a fail.
Avalon? Lol...outdated chips and they screwed the entire community.
Hashfast? Delivery before Dec 31st they are now saying....many of their cusotmers are realizing that they will never make money and are jumping ship.

Bitfury...legit deliveries...only real competitor right now.

Basically everyone who bought late is now asking for a refund and they intend to buy instead of mine.


I'd say there will be no where near the difficulty that thread is proposing by the end of the year.

It's got maybe a couple more big jump in diff left and then it will stall for a bit.  

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cointerra???

avalons 55nm chips that they can fkn choke on for all i care...?
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