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November 25, 2013, 04:02:54 PM

Dear KNC people.

How soon can I throw my money at you for these products ?
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No details. Coming SoonTM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

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November 25, 2013, 04:08:22 PM

now to make the day perfect, knc should announce a sort of fidelity program for the early adopters and just after that release the tuning suite Tongue

tuning suite first sil vous plait


if the 4 chip 650Gh nov jups need 1200w

what will a 20nm '6 chip' neptune need & potentially hash at?

exciting!! and scary!!

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November 25, 2013, 04:09:24 PM

There has been no delay from what I've seen I've only ever known Marcus state production commences mid November and he's the guy in charge of production.

Can you explain what you mean by "no delay"?

Nov 10th:

http://web.archive.org/web/20131110003305/https://www.kncminer.com/categories/miners

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New orders for our ASIC miners that are fully paid today are expected to ship from November 15th, regardless of model.

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No details. Coming SoonTM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

All October customers will be given discount. Or that's what I hope for.
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My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s

Learn to hedge.  That is an 'all-in' mentality that will always leave you chasing bets

Perhaps it would of been better to buy one Jupiter and keep the rest in BTC?  But then you probably would of sold that BTC a couple months ago when it doubled and then said more coulda shouldas


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All October customers will be given discount. Or that's what I hope for.

I'd just be happy they open up the orders to past customers first even without a discount.
You know if they opened it up to everyone they would sell out in 5 mins


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Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

Bingo!

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Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

Bingo!

sorry for lame question: but how soon is soon ?  Tongue

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My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

Your big answer would be no I would imagine.


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November 25, 2013, 04:26:52 PM


My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s

Learn to hedge.  That is an 'all-in' mentality that will always leave you chasing bets

Perhaps it would of been better to buy one Jupiter and keep the rest in BTC?  But then you probably would of sold that BTC a couple months ago when it doubled and then said more coulda shouldas



I'll be as honest as possible with my reply: I bought my miners first of all hoping to get a profit in BTC (I was terribly wrong, helped a bit by KNC production delays that were affecting the late customers much harder than the ones at the beginning of the queue) and secondly for the thrill of mining Smiley Kind of expensive caprice I'd say... I'm currently sitting on a nice amount of BTC that I started buying long ago, back when the exchange rate was abour $10/BTC. I still have NO intention to sell them as I strongly believe BTC is still going to get value.
If there are miners out there willing to take losses in BTC for the sake of $ gains, my offer still stands: send me 100 BTC now and I promise I'll send you back 60 BTC once the value of BTC doubles. No hassle, no electricity cost, no hardware failures!

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My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s

Learn to hedge.  That is an 'all-in' mentality that will always leave you chasing bets

Perhaps it would of been better to buy one Jupiter and keep the rest in BTC?  But then you probably would of sold that BTC a couple months ago when it doubled and then said more coulda shouldas



I'll be as honest as possible with my reply: I bought my miners first of all hoping to get a profit in BTC (I was terribly wrong, helped a bit by KNC production delays that were affecting the late customers much harder than the ones at the beginning of the queue) and secondly for the thrill of mining Smiley Kind of expensive caprice I'd say... I'm currently sitting on a nice amount of BTC that I started buying long ago, back when the exchange rate was abour $10/BTC. I still have NO intention to sell them as I strongly believe BTC is still going to get value.
If there are miners out there willing to take losses in BTC for the sake of $ gains, my offer still stands: send me 100 BTC now and I promise I'll send you back 60 BTC once the value of BTC doubles. No hassle, no electricity cost, no hardware failures!

ROTFL !

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No details. Coming SoonTM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

anyone care to speculate on the other specs and prices? just for fun

I'll get us started, 2TH @ =< 0.5 watt per ghs

and selling for $3999. or less Wink

Power at the wall is an issue for us not prepared to upgrade our incoming service.



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If there are miners out there willing to take losses in BTC for the sake of $ gains, my offer still stands: send me 100 BTC now and I promise I'll send you back 60 BTC once the value of BTC doubles. No hassle, no electricity cost, no hardware failures!

That service of yours is not that off the mark.   I mine for two reasons.   One, I used 0% interest credit to buy the miners since it wasn't feasible to buy BTC directly like that.  And second, mining keeps me from selling on short term profits.

I've been selling my coins pretty much as I mine them and use the money to buy on big dips and then jump out quick for some more gains.


My goals wasn't to get really rich, just double my investment. That is going along fine. And yes, your service would be fine for people like me with quick trigger fingers  Smiley

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i am testing right now cgminer-tune with my jupiter that has got some problems at the beginning and is mining at 520GH with 3.8.1. i can report that the jupiter is hashing now at 480GH Sad. and i am not sure but it takes some time till the working diff has changed usually i think it got changed faster. i am mining on eligius btw.

i will update you in 2-3h.

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after one hour it is working at 511GH/s

just an update:

jupiter one: FW0.99 3.8.1@523GH/s AVG HW2,4% - FW0.99 3.8.2tune@513GH/s AVG HW1,4% (3h working)
jupiter two: FW0.99 3.8.1@564GH/s AVG HW2,0% - FW0.99 3.8.2tune@566GH/s AVG HW1,4% (10min working)
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No details. Coming SoonTM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

I'm wondering the position in the miner of the modules with the die #0 issue.  Do the dies on the outboard fail more easily due to center air flow cooling the inside VRMs better than the outside VRMs so the outside VRMs heat the outer side of the ASIC more than the inner?

And since both front fans rotate in the same direction, could the outside of the miner have greater airflow at the VRM level than the other?  If so it would show failing dies, or dropped cores more on the side with the less cooled VRMs.



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@orama any news about new pcb and firmware?

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November 25, 2013, 05:00:08 PM

"I'm wondering the position in the miner of the modules with the die #0 issue."

All of them came with this issue. 4 broken boards in the Jupiter and 2 in each Saturn I own. Of course, KNC offered to RMA all 8 boards, but I passed so far because of the 0.98.1 beta FW that managed to make my Jupiter and one of the Saturns work with all dies on, while the other Saturn was a bit more difficult to keep stable at high temps, but still got periods of time with all 8 dies on, sometimes 7 and sometimes 6. Unfortunately, something happened after I used 0.99 on my Saturns, one of them has a complete dead ASIC showing all 48 cores off (bfgminer doesn't even shows that module), the other starts with all cores on, but also turns them all off after a while. That's only happening on 0.98.1 beta or 0.98.1 official or 0.99. Both machines runs "normally" with die #0 off on 0.98 though. Weird enough, 0.99 didn't affect my Jupiter though, which was happily hashing with all dies on (and most of the cores) until today, when somehow it turned all die #0 off, but I switched to 0.98.1 beta and after the usual 1h heating up modules, it now hashes again with all dies on.

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