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November 25, 2013, 09:24:50 PM
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What I tried to underline is that:
a) I have no idea what caused my Saturns problems, my Jupiter running on the same line and same PSU type was not affected
b) The Saturns came with all boards affected by die #0 issue, (same as my Jupiter), they are running with die #0 off on 0.98
c) Both Saturns ran pretty well on 0.98.1 beta, one of them easily powering all dies, the other required more heat and was really hard to keep all dies powered on
d) Once 0.99 was released, i switched all my machines to it and for a day or two, they were running the same as on 0.98.1 beta
e) All of a sudden, both Saturns became affected with disabled cores, but in a different way: one of them simply has all cores disabled at startup (and keeps them like that) on 0.98.1 beta or official and 0.99. The other one starts normally, but after a while almost all cores on the same ASIC (coincidence?), the lower one on the web interface, gets disabled, only 0-5 cores remaining enabled on each die. Again, disabled cores are present on just one ASIC, the lower one in the web interface page.
This started at a day or 2 after 0.99 and the problem remained even after hard reset and affecting 0.98.1 as well, beta or official.
f) Both Saturns run normally (with their die #0 issue) on 0.98

My guess was that 0.99 FW somehow caused this issue, but it just persists now on 0.98.1 as well.
I initially had a similar issue with FW 0.99.
This was my fix:

1. Try flashing FW 0.90
2. Do a hard reset either via KnC recommended 5 push/5sec/5push reset or
    hold reset button about 30 sec until red light flashes
3. Pull power wait 30 sec and plug power back in
4. Enable-cores
5. Run for an hour or so despite speed not being ideal unless speed is nothing
6. Upgrade back up to FW 0.98.1 Beta
7. Hard Reset and Hard Power Cycle 30 Sec
8. If after rebooting and a hour of running speed does not seem ideal
    run enable-cores(sometimes you have to rerun enable-cores multiple times, 3 seems the average for me)

(if after all 8 steps it doesn't work try again from step 1 using FW 0.94)

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These machines are extremely fickle
sometimes requiring multi boots, resets, and FW flashes
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what do you expect with leading edge hardware and
would you of rather waited for more stable(tested) hardware and lost significant profits..

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November 25, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
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Great news, 20nm!
Bad news 'Orders opening soon'!


Bitcoinorama, in hope I get not ignored I'd like to ask the following:

1) Why is the pre-order game continuing ?
     Didn't they collect enough money to fund the next gen ?!


Apparently not. To be blunt, and not sugar coat, the funding for 20nm is considerably greater than 28nm. If you are confident of your ability to deliver and the possibility exists to raise it, why wouldn't you? Would you rather they pay for it themselves and keep the tech for themselves? Mining for themselves? They want to be fair, but the are running a business, and the game is one of survival.


2) Do you have to pay the full price when opening the order books or is it like pay 10-20% up front and then the rest when it's close to shipping...?


Almost assuredly full price. No one is going to deal with chasing payments, especially after so many tried to game the VAT situation, by abstaining from payment and then complaining that they are at the back of the queue. Order queue is based in payment date.


3) How much will they approximately cost ? Would be very nice to get a clue before you actually have to pay..


Price will be released tomorrow, NRE is higher, consequently to remain competitive hashrate will have to be greater as well.


4) ANY advantage for the early investors who took a high risk and making KnCMiner's success possible in first place ?


This has been discussed and past customers will be given first refusal.


5) Will there be another batch of upgrade boards for October gen ?


Again this has been discussed, I won't make promises, depends on similar criteria to before.


Thank you very much in advance for your answers!


No worries bro, and I'm aware you have sent me a series of Q's in PMs, you are not the only one I will try to answer them shortly...

Just two questions.

What kind of first refusal will we (day 1 and 2 customers, who payed in the 7 days windows) have?

When will the order book open?

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November 25, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
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The order book will likely open either tomorrow, or in the coming days.

Not sure what you mean by what kind of refusal? In any case wait and see at the point of announcement.

Dare say it will be first come first served to previous customers for a designated period of time. I have no idea of there is a limit, or whether there's a reseller program. Though of there is please use the reseller link in my sig. Ta v.much Wink

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November 25, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
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Bitcoinorama, thank you for the clarifying (and satisfying) answers Smiley

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November 25, 2013, 09:40:58 PM
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That what happens wen you try to delete a huuuge chunk of text on an iPhone so you don't pollute the thread...Wink

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November 25, 2013, 09:44:17 PM
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The order book will likely open either tomorrow, or in the coming days.

Not sure what you mean by what kind of refusal? In any case wait and see at the point of announcement.

Dare say it will be first come first served to previous customers for a designated period of time. I have no idea of there is a limit, or whether there's a reseller program. Though of there is please use the reseller link in my sig. Ta v.much Wink


Sorry mate, my bad English.

So I'll try to ask it again. What kind of preferrence will the early buyers have? If they have?

For example who had a day1 or day2 order at the begining they'll give the same condition or something like that.

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November 25, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
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day 1/2 customers should have no advantage over the rest of October customers, in my opinion. Day 1/2 customers were compensated enough by receiving their miners early and mining more bitcoin.
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November 25, 2013, 09:49:36 PM
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The photos with the control boards is from November Jupiter???
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November 25, 2013, 09:54:05 PM
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day 1/2 customers should have no advantage over the rest of October customers, in my opinion. Day 1/2 customers were compensated enough by receiving their miners early and mining more bitcoin.

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November 25, 2013, 09:54:31 PM
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What the fuck... Why should you guys (previous customers) have a advantage?.. *stunned*  Huh
Is it not enough that you were first and mined some coins on the first round of KnC miners?

First come, first serve <-- The only fair thing to do.

... or are you scared of the competition? (Can´t see any other logical explanation)  Grin
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November 25, 2013, 09:58:33 PM
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What the fuck... Why should you guys (previous customers) have a advantage?.. *stunned*  Huh
Is it not enough that you were first and mined some coins on the first round of KnC miners?

First come, first serve <-- The only fair thing to do.

... or are you scared of the competition? (Can´t see any other logical explanation)  Grin

Nice Sig! No wonder youre so hostile! lol

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November 25, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
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What the fuck... Why should you guys (previous customers) have a advantage?.. *stunned*  Huh
Is it not enough that you were first and mined some coins on the first round of KnC miners?

First come, first serve <-- The only fair thing to do.

... or are you scared of the competition? (Can´t see any other logical explanation)  Grin


Sure not.

It was a business model. They needed fund asap. We gave them....

But try not to fight on this. The Knc guys will decide....

It's up to them.

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November 25, 2013, 09:59:43 PM
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The order book will likely open either tomorrow, or in the coming days.

Not sure what you mean by what kind of refusal? In any case wait and see at the point of announcement.

Dare say it will be first come first served to previous customers for a designated period of time. I have no idea of there is a limit, or whether there's a reseller program. Though of there is please use the reseller link in my sig. Ta v.much Wink


Is it unreasonable to expect an email sent to KNC customers at least 24 hours before the order book opens up? There are many of us that don't feel like constantly refreshing the website (or using alerts) so that we can possibly wake up in the middle of the night to pull out the credit card or BTC.

Also, will there be a discount for BTC payments?

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November 25, 2013, 10:00:40 PM
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The order book will likely open either tomorrow, or in the coming days.

Not sure what you mean by what kind of refusal? In any case wait and see at the point of announcement.

Dare say it will be first come first served to previous customers for a designated period of time. I have no idea of there is a limit, or whether there's a reseller program. Though of there is please use the reseller link in my sig. Ta v.much Wink


Is it unreasonable to expect an email sent to KNC customers at least 24 hours before the order book opens up? There are many of us that don't feel like constantly refreshing the website (or using alerts) so that we can possibly wake up in the middle of the night to pull out the credit card or BTC.

Also, will there be a discount for BTC payments?

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November 25, 2013, 10:01:31 PM
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day 1/2 customers should have no advantage over the rest of October customers, in my opinion. Day 1/2 customers were compensated enough by receiving their miners early and mining more bitcoin.
Not true, ours were just as late as yours, I ordered June 2nd, and people that ordered july and august got theirs the same week I did, so absolutely not true....and we were indeed teased with promises of preferential treatment come gen2 time, and O'Rama just confirmed the possibility it may happen for a short time...probably tomorrow, so be ready.


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November 25, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
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Dare say it will be first come first served to previous customers for a designated period of time. I have no idea of there is a limit, or whether there's a reseller program. Though of there is please use the reseller link in my sig. Ta v.much Wink


Spoke to customer service today, the guy (Kurt, i think) said that the reseller scheme is on for 2nd gen Smiley

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November 25, 2013, 10:10:03 PM
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KnC is, and was apparently the only good choice in this market! Im excited about the news but it wont sink in until my Jupiter is up and running. This Thanksgiving I am thankful that it isnt a holiday in Sweden and KnC wont miss out on precious time getting the November orders all out!

Bitfury was a damn good choice too!  Why does everyone forget about them?
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November 25, 2013, 10:15:14 PM
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I really hope that we who were the first to trust and fund KNC in its embryonic state get the first crack of the whip. I understand peoples frustration but a lot have since jumped on the gravy train post October release. We stuck our money were our mouths are and had to hang in there when so many just slung FUD.
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November 25, 2013, 10:17:49 PM
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day 1/2 customers should have no advantage over the rest of October customers, in my opinion. Day 1/2 customers were compensated enough by receiving their miners early and mining more bitcoin.

Yes, now it's hard to image that there was any risk at all when day1/2 customers ordered and payed.
And in addition it's very easy to say that you would have spend that much money at this point in time, too.

Actually few of my friends shook their heads when they heard I invested in this Swedish start up company.
Colleagues told me the time line for development and production is unrealistic, especially for such a small company and I will very likely loose all my money.

Risk some serious money on a startup which could fail and then get told by the late comers who where betting on the safe horse close to the finish line that the early ones shouldn't get rewarded. You do not consider it serious, do you ?

Btw do you know bitbet ?
Do the guys placing their bets late get the same return in case of a win as those who placed their bets on the first day ?

Here's a hint quoted from a current bet
Quote from: bitbet
Weighted No: 9`963`278
Weighted Yes: 9`959`399
Current weight: 90`757 ( from 100`000 to 1 )

Who still thinks it is unfair:
How about go to mommy and tell her the world is bad to you (when it actually isn't), maybe she cares..

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November 25, 2013, 10:22:24 PM
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Who still thinks it is unfair:
How about go to mommy and tell her the world is bad to you (when it actually isn't), maybe she cares..




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