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November 27, 2013, 11:14:47 PM
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<Singing> I want a tuning suite for Thanksgiving </singing>

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November 27, 2013, 11:22:10 PM
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<Singing> I want a tuning suite for Thanksgiving </singing>

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November 27, 2013, 11:36:41 PM
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I've placed one order today 128xx, i presume they are all sold out, if i am not wrong yesterday they started when the progressive number was 109xx or 1100x, and we have to consider also that one order could contain 10 pieces.

Not everyone who placed an order has paid yet, so they might not be sold out.
They are not going to find twelve hundred idiots in existing customers that quickly. Most miners with any experience realise that pre-ordering something for delivery in 7 months time in a market as volatile as bitcoin is stupidity too risky. And those of us stung by KNC's "Ship late, ship faulty" service won't be ordering again.

dear avenger,

you had ordered jupiters also, but got a refund, is that correct ?

why do you bother to post here the usual "knc is a scaaaaam" sheit, when there are plenty of people here in this forum that do not regret their engagement into knc since it worked for them. i mean, do you really think you stating something substantial with this "knc customers are stupid" sheit on page 1100 of this thread ? where does your hate come from ?



I sold atm my Jupiter october batch for 15500 Euros! I also will hate myself, and hiting me 100 times in my face if I not risking to buy an KNCMINER.

Take a look to german Ebay. Also I sell my KNCMINER for rent 12 hours, and the price is 325 Euros per 12 hours. And... the people are so crazy about bitcoins, I think mid Jan we have an price about 2000 USD / BTC
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November 27, 2013, 11:47:37 PM
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Just received my Jupiter (of course coolers fell during transport but no other problem) and i want to ask 'Orama if are we supposed to remove the new metal thing that's right on top of the controller or it's there for improved airflow. I guess not, but i want to be sure.

Hashing at ~672GH (started a few minutes ago)! Thank you KnC!

nice for 4 boards!


with 5 boards my Uranuses (Neptune name now taken) are usually a little over 700Gh

here is a very rare sighting (just now) of both producing the same at the pool


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November 27, 2013, 11:53:04 PM
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vesper, dynamic? thanks! been called alot of things before, but dynamic is a first..... Grin

Glad I could help! Smiley

Cash/bitcoin/gold/women it's all the same, right? I'm just looking to see if someone wants to offload their Jupiter now while they still can....in a couple months they may be very hard to sell. Or I wouldn't be interested in that time. See ya at work!

So you can pay in women.. what might you have to offer..?

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November 27, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
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TEST_ASIC_BOARD_FOUND=FAIL

type only in your console when logged in:

cat /././var/log/initc.log


root@Jupiter-fuckoff:/var/volatile/log# cat initc.log
Return code = -11
TEST_READ_BBB_SN=OK
TEST_I2C_CONNECT=OK
TEST_LM75_TEST=OK
TEST_TPS65217_TEST=OK
TEST_TPS65217_CONFIG=OK
TEST_FPGA_CONFIG=OK
TEST_FPGA_TEST=OK
TEST_ONBOARD_EEPROM_EMPTY=OK
TEST_GET_SERIAL_NUMBER=OK
TEST_ONBOARD_EEPROM_WRITE=OK
TEST_MMC_REFLASH=OK
TEST_I2C_MUX_PROBE=OK
 Shocked TEST_ASIC_BOARD_FOUND=FAIL  Shocked
TEST_READ_IOBOARD_SN=OK
TEST_IOBOARD_SN_GOOD=OK
TEST_GET_CGMINER_CONFIG=OK
TEST_WRITE_CGMINER_CONFIG=OK

what can i do?
TEST_ASIC_BOARD_FOUND=FAIL
How did you solved this problem? I'm having the same.

Rename your Jupiter: She doesn´t like an name like: Fuckoff

2. unplug all power
3. unplug all flat cable
4. plug the power cables in
5. let it run for an hour !

7. power off all
8. unplug the power cables
9. plug in one asic board with the flat cable + pcie
10. plug the power to the controller board
11. switch on the miner, wait for green light, if the green light is permanent on then this asic board is ok
12. now unplug the good board and do the same with an other

when you do this 7 - to 12 for 4times, then you know which board is broken, for this board you need an RMA
write an mail to support@kncminer.com (you have to use the email adress of your order) if not call them.
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November 27, 2013, 11:56:44 PM
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Just received my Jupiter (of course coolers fell during transport but no other problem) and i want to ask 'Orama if are we supposed to remove the new metal thing that's right on top of the controller or it's there for improved airflow. I guess not, but i want to be sure.

Hashing at ~672GH (started a few minutes ago)! Thank you KnC!

congrat!

wattage at the wall ?

 

I don't have anything to measure. I will try to get something next week.


nice! do you have that "Turbo Mode" they talked about?

Not yet, but the firmware is 0.99-E.

CYPER really don't feel like posting pics(maybe in the weekend), but it's the same as previous ones, the only thing that's change is a metal stuff inside that's somehow blocking the lower half of the front coolers, but it's 4-5 cm away from them and they changed the bloody VRMs Cheesy They are different now.

Edit: 677-678GH in cgminer / 674GH in pool / low HW.

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November 28, 2013, 12:00:18 AM
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Just received my Jupiter (of course coolers fell during transport but no other problem) and i want to ask 'Orama if are we supposed to remove the new metal thing that's right on top of the controller or it's there for improved airflow. I guess not, but i want to be sure.

Hashing at ~672GH (started a few minutes ago)! Thank you KnC!

congrat!

wattage at the wall ?

 

I don't have anything to measure. I will try to get something next week.


nice! do you have that "Turbo Mode" they talked about?

Not yet, but the firmware is 0.99-E.

CYPER really don't feel like posting pics(maybe in the weekend), but it's the same as previous ones, the only thing that's change is a metal stuff inside that's somehow blocking the lower half of the front coolers, but it's 4-5 cm away from them and they changed the bloody VRMs Cheesy They are different now.

Can you point your miner to my poolworker for some hours? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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November 28, 2013, 12:01:11 AM
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Just received my Jupiter (of course coolers fell during transport but no other problem) and i want to ask 'Orama if are we supposed to remove the new metal thing that's right on top of the controller or it's there for improved airflow. I guess not, but i want to be sure.

Hashing at ~672GH (started a few minutes ago)! Thank you KnC!

congrat!

wattage at the wall ?

 

I don't have anything to measure. I will try to get something next week.


nice! do you have that "Turbo Mode" they talked about?

Not yet, but the firmware is 0.99-E.

CYPER really don't feel like posting pics(maybe in the weekend), but it's the same as previous ones, the only thing that's change is a metal stuff inside that's somehow blocking the lower half of the front coolers, but it's 4-5 cm away from them and they changed the bloody VRMs Cheesy They are different now.

https://github.com/KnCMiner/meta-kncminer/commit/daf4525e6e8d446c091418ce41a886c514762443

they are using Ericsson DC/DC modules. That's why the firmaware is called 0.99-E

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November 28, 2013, 12:03:45 AM
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Just received my Jupiter (of course coolers fell during transport but no other problem) and i want to ask 'Orama if are we supposed to remove the new metal thing that's right on top of the controller or it's there for improved airflow. I guess not, but i want to be sure.

Hashing at ~672GH (started a few minutes ago)! Thank you KnC!

congrat!

wattage at the wall ?

 

I don't have anything to measure. I will try to get something next week.


nice! do you have that "Turbo Mode" they talked about?

Not yet, but the firmware is 0.99-E.

CYPER really don't feel like posting pics(maybe in the weekend), but it's the same as previous ones, the only thing that's change is a metal stuff inside that's somehow blocking the lower half of the front coolers, but it's 4-5 cm away from them and they changed the bloody VRMs Cheesy They are different now.

https://github.com/KnCMiner/meta-kncminer/commit/daf4525e6e8d446c091418ce41a886c514762443

they are using Ericsson DC/DC modules. That's why the firmaware is called 0.99-E


yeah ericsson, i like ericsson they had nice cellphones in the 90s
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November 28, 2013, 12:06:08 AM
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The safest bet for a quality design which will exceed the specified hash rate and will definitely ship sometime in 2014, is KNC. There's no doubt.

I have a feeling, however, the other companies will stick to 28nm for awhile and cater toward the house-based mining folk, as it appears KNC is propelling toward more industrial consumers.

If you were to spend money on a miner right now, your best bet is KNC. To me, there's too many variables with what the returns will be like in 4-6 months, I'd rather find something now and burn it up until it's no longer viable, and move forward with the earnings.

To be fair, almost from the beginning that has been their stated focus. They have waffled somewhat, but the commercial miner has always been their target.

I am cautiously optimistic on Cointerra and BlackArrow, I believe Bitmine will deliver, and of course Bitfury have already proven themselves (though with my crazy work schedule I haven't kept up with their latest plans, if any).

For reasons I cannot properly elucidate, just gut feeling, I think Hashfast will fold. I can't prove it, I have no insider information, I just smell fish.

I am trying several avenues to raise revenue, and when I get it I'll buy KnC if at all possible. I like the company, can forgive their warts as they are overall pretty small, and I want them to succeed. For several reasons. One of them being Bitcoinorama who was very kind and very informative to a newbie even before his association with KnC.

In a previous post you mentioned that it feels good to be in on the beginning of something historic. I am a bit jealous there, and flog myself constantly. I almost was one of the first adopters. I was aware of bitcoin at the outset, and was interested. Then a lot of shit happened in real life, and I forgot. That error cost me a lot. I had no reason, at the time, not to do it. I simply got sidetracked. Granted, the IRL issues were real, immediate, and devastating, but that doesn't change the fact that I missed a boat I wanted to sail on.

That being said, I still think the day is young on Bitcoin. It has risen almost twice what I thought it would in this year, and still going up. I actually thought it would hit $500 by about January 1st. We do indeed live in interesting times.

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November 28, 2013, 12:08:09 AM
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https://github.com/KnCMiner/meta-kncminer/commit/daf4525e6e8d446c091418ce41a886c514762443

they are using Ericsson DC/DC modules. That's why the firmaware is called 0.99-E


yeah ericsson, i like ericsson they had nice cellphones in the 90s

lol .. they were cool you're right.

among other things, ericsson provides and operates telecommunications networks and they even managed to give birth to erlang Tongue

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November 28, 2013, 12:17:07 AM
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Just received my Jupiter (of course coolers fell during transport but no other problem) and i want to ask 'Orama if are we supposed to remove the new metal thing that's right on top of the controller or it's there for improved airflow. I guess not, but i want to be sure.

Hashing at ~672GH (started a few minutes ago)! Thank you KnC!

congrat!

wattage at the wall ?

 

I don't have anything to measure. I will try to get something next week.


nice! do you have that "Turbo Mode" they talked about?

Not yet, but the firmware is 0.99-E.

CYPER really don't feel like posting pics(maybe in the weekend), but it's the same as previous ones, the only thing that's change is a metal stuff inside that's somehow blocking the lower half of the front coolers, but it's 4-5 cm away from them and they changed the bloody VRMs Cheesy They are different now.

Edit: 677-678GH in cgminer / 674GH in pool / low HW.

Is there any way to dump the firmware to a file?

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November 28, 2013, 12:19:18 AM
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They may be heading to more power hungry rigs, but we don't know how power hungry yet. Even 2kw isn't anything more than a small electric fire which many homes run ...most small home miners won't be running 10 neptunes, maybe 2 or three max? No problem really as long as they pay their bills.
The problem for competitors, apart from trust and proven hardware is price.. can they compete with the price per Gh? Seriously doubt that unless someone new like KNC appear, which could happen.

KNC have been very clever at marketing and timing , I'd bet they have destroyed some companies like BFL completely. No tears there though eh? Smiley

I think the power issue isn't so much paying the bill, but the wiring involved. Most US houses these days, you might be able to squeeze out 2..MAYBE 4kw circuit. Beyond that you need subpanels, and ideally dedicated panels. Most folks won't do that unless they're already balls deep (like Phoenix for example).

Personally, let's say I could only support 2kw, I'd feel almost ill owning a miner which can only do 3TH because of the limitation, knowing that if I had more power it could go twice as fast. It's like paying 2x as much for a miner than you need to. I have a feeling the Neptune will be able to hit 5 or 6TH in the right conditions.

Yes, KNC has done well with their timing. I also point to their 'protect the network' claim as part of this. They're using it as an excuse for timing, but to save themselves from a bad reputation regarding time-to-market (such as what befell BFL).

Let me chime in on the power a bit. My father is an electrician (well, was, he's a few days shy of 75 years old now Smiley ) and I learned this stuff rather thoroughly growing up. If you live in a rental apartment, this is useless to you, but if you live in your own house or in a rented house with property, it probably isn't.

Firstly, there is nothing magical about this, and the equipment is cheap by comparison to what you are spending on a single miner. You can easily install almost everything by yourself with tools you can buy at walmart and equipment that you can get at Lowes or Home Depot, practically everywhere in the country. I am not familiar with the retailers for DIY stuff in the rest of the world, but I would imagine that it's not too hard in most developed countries.

If you have a shed, you can make it your mining shack. Add a 200 amp service panel, wire it for 240/120 which it's largely preconfigured for anyway. I recommend twelve guage wire, though 14 meets code for 15 amp circuits. 12 is only marginally more expensive, and is legit for 20 amp circuits. This, in a small shed, is a day's work if you've never done it before. There are a number of DIY books out there, the oldest still in publication being "wiring simplified", which I learned from at my Dad's orders when I was seven years old. It's technical enough, but not over the top. There are many others. You will want one 15 amp circuit for lights, coffee pot, etcetera, and probably want the rest to be 20 amp or 30 amp 240v RMS circuits. You're only talking five or six breakers here, unless you are trying to run 10 or more miners. In that case, go to 300 amp. Then, establish a separate account to that shed with your utility company. They will supply the meter, you just have to have the wiring in place and in most places have it inspected by a local official. If you can handle the fine work for an electronic device, you can wire a panel and the branch circuits in your sleep. This is monkey work after you've done it a few times. Apprentices do almost all of this sort of work on major projects, with the journeymen supervising and doing some of the more complex stuff, especially industrial. The last time I wired up a panel and ten branch circuits was about ten years back, helping a friend update his house. The only hard part was running wire inside existing walls. You won't have that problem doing it in a shed, just run 'em in the open and fasten the wires down real tight. It took me about ten hours doing it on a remodel. In the open, it would have been maybe three.

There are several advantages to this approach. One, you have dedicated power. No line spikes from the heater coming on, or the stove, etcetera. Two, your power bill for the mining rig is easily accountable as it is it's own bill. Three, any wiring problems will be EASILY traced, as the wiring is right in the open, and four, the cost of the equipment is cheap by comparison. Maybe a thousand dollars, if you don't watch for sales and discounts.


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November 28, 2013, 12:23:49 AM
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Please photos
To see the new November Jupiter
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November 28, 2013, 12:31:45 AM
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Can you point your miner to my poolworker for some hours? Grin Grin Grin Grin


Post pool and worker/pass.


https://github.com/KnCMiner/meta-kncminer/commit/daf4525e6e8d446c091418ce41a886c514762443

they are using Ericsson DC/DC modules. That's why the firmaware is called 0.99-E


I thought i see a known logo but i was too anxious powering it up. Ericsson 1 - GE 0.

Is there any way to dump the firmware to a file?

No idea. If someone else points me to it i would gladly do it.

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November 28, 2013, 12:57:02 AM
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They may be heading to more power hungry rigs, but we don't know how power hungry yet. Even 2kw isn't anything more than a small electric fire which many homes run ...most small home miners won't be running 10 neptunes, maybe 2 or three max? No problem really as long as they pay their bills.
The problem for competitors, apart from trust and proven hardware is price.. can they compete with the price per Gh? Seriously doubt that unless someone new like KNC appear, which could happen.

KNC have been very clever at marketing and timing , I'd bet they have destroyed some companies like BFL completely. No tears there though eh? Smiley

I think the power issue isn't so much paying the bill, but the wiring involved. Most US houses these days, you might be able to squeeze out 2..MAYBE 4kw circuit. Beyond that you need subpanels, and ideally dedicated panels. Most folks won't do that unless they're already balls deep (like Phoenix for example).

Personally, let's say I could only support 2kw, I'd feel almost ill owning a miner which can only do 3TH because of the limitation, knowing that if I had more power it could go twice as fast. It's like paying 2x as much for a miner than you need to. I have a feeling the Neptune will be able to hit 5 or 6TH in the right conditions.

Yes, KNC has done well with their timing. I also point to their 'protect the network' claim as part of this. They're using it as an excuse for timing, but to save themselves from a bad reputation regarding time-to-market (such as what befell BFL).

Let me chime in on the power a bit. My father is an electrician (well, was, he's a few days shy of 75 years old now Smiley ) and I learned this stuff rather thoroughly growing up. If you live in a rental apartment, this is useless to you, but if you live in your own house or in a rented house with property, it probably isn't.

Firstly, there is nothing magical about this, and the equipment is cheap by comparison to what you are spending on a single miner. You can easily install almost everything by yourself with tools you can buy at walmart and equipment that you can get at Lowes or Home Depot, practically everywhere in the country. I am not familiar with the retailers for DIY stuff in the rest of the world, but I would imagine that it's not too hard in most developed countries.

If you have a shed, you can make it your mining shack. Add a 200 amp service panel, wire it for 240/120 which it's largely preconfigured for anyway. I recommend twelve guage wire, though 14 meets code for 15 amp circuits. 12 is only marginally more expensive, and is legit for 20 amp circuits. This, in a small shed, is a day's work if you've never done it before. There are a number of DIY books out there, the oldest still in publication being "wiring simplified", which I learned from at my Dad's orders when I was seven years old. It's technical enough, but not over the top. There are many others. You will want one 15 amp circuit for lights, coffee pot, etcetera, and probably want the rest to be 20 amp or 30 amp 240v RMS circuits. You're only talking five or six breakers here, unless you are trying to run 10 or more miners. In that case, go to 300 amp. Then, establish a separate account to that shed with your utility company. They will supply the meter, you just have to have the wiring in place and in most places have it inspected by a local official. If you can handle the fine work for an electronic device, you can wire a panel and the branch circuits in your sleep. This is monkey work after you've done it a few times. Apprentices do almost all of this sort of work on major projects, with the journeymen supervising and doing some of the more complex stuff, especially industrial. The last time I wired up a panel and ten branch circuits was about ten years back, helping a friend update his house. The only hard part was running wire inside existing walls. You won't have that problem doing it in a shed, just run 'em in the open and fasten the wires down real tight. It took me about ten hours doing it on a remodel. In the open, it would have been maybe three.

There are several advantages to this approach. One, you have dedicated power. No line spikes from the heater coming on, or the stove, etcetera. Two, your power bill for the mining rig is easily accountable as it is it's own bill. Three, any wiring problems will be EASILY traced, as the wiring is right in the open, and four, the cost of the equipment is cheap by comparison. Maybe a thousand dollars, if you don't watch for sales and discounts.



When I first go into mining earlier this year, I had my buddy who is an electrician put a separate 100 AMP sub panel with a bunch of 20 AMP breakers in my basement. I had plans of building a medium sized GPU farm, but ASIC devices and the heat GPUs create put an end to that plan fairly fast. I had no idea that this separate panel would come in handy for ASIC devices so soon. Adding the extra sub panel cost less than $500 including parts and labor, but my buddy did give me a good deal on the labor cost.

It's not that expensive to add a separate sub-panel to power a couple of Neptunes...
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November 28, 2013, 12:57:16 AM
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I am trying several avenues to raise revenue, and when I get it I'll buy KnC if at all possible. I like the company, can forgive their warts as they are overall pretty small, and I want them to succeed. For several reasons. One of them being Bitcoinorama who was very kind and very informative to a newbie even before his association with KnC.




I feel for you man,  I wish you had a chance to run up some 0% credit cards last summer like I did...  seems like KNC won't take CC anymore so the days of turning free money into digital is over on these shores  (or I would buy a neptune or two no doubt...   the expansion modules for BTC I didn't mind though, that was nice and quick turnaround)


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November 28, 2013, 01:45:19 AM
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LTC made me some good returns in the last few days and thinking of buying a few more neptunes.  if someone wants me to use their reseller ID, thinking of buying 2 or 3 more.  Open to giving me .5 BTC for each use of the reseller id?  Considering that the free one is 10% off, each link should be worth about 1BTC...  asking for 1/2 that should be reasonable.

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November 28, 2013, 01:58:12 AM
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LTC made me some good returns in the last few days and thinking of buying a few more neptunes.  if someone wants me to use their reseller ID, thinking of buying 2 or 3 more.  Open to giving me .5 BTC for each use of the reseller id?  Considering that the free one is 10% off, each link should be worth about 1BTC...  asking for 1/2 that should be reasonable.

Hit me up if interested.


https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=277

I have bought 3 neptunes, I will do the same like others. If you want? Grin

If we got 10, then for every piece 10% Hashpower - Pool = ghash.io
Every shareholder 10% per piece!

you can check my profile on ebay send me an pm.

thx

fubly
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