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February 01, 2014, 05:02:02 PM
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 CT shipping in full now

What?  do tell..that would be news in their thread

It's on their website.. been shipping half this week. I posted up about it, and some KNC news, but my post was selectively deleted.

I guess because it didn't kiss KNC ass enough.

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February 01, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
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One nice thing about other more-consuming units shipping before KNC's, is they get to see the issues the bigger units cause in households and commercial settings, and may be able to ensure their products won't have those issues either. I suppose that's one nice thing about it.

KNC, any updates?

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February 01, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
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 CT shipping in full now

What?  do tell..that would be news in their thread

It's on their website.. been shipping half this week. I posted up about it, and some KNC news, but my post was selectively deleted.

I guess because it didn't kiss KNC ass enough.

you believe they are shipping since they posted more bs?

as I said.. that's news to their thread

and their forum... http://forum.cointerra.com/threads/shipping.344/#post-1473

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February 01, 2014, 05:09:28 PM
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Heh, the upgrade modules will go on sale for only the last 5 minutes of the superbowl. Smiley



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February 01, 2014, 05:10:57 PM
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Come on knc sell the upgraded module
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February 01, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
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Come on knc sell the upgraded module
Please

Codependency is defined as a psychological condition or a relationship in which a person is controlled or manipulated by another who is affected with a pathological condition

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Look into this jelin. Also, Stockholm syndrome...

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February 01, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
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 CT shipping in full now

What?  do tell..that would be news in their thread

It's on their website.. been shipping half this week. I posted up about it, and some KNC news, but my post was selectively deleted.

I guess because it didn't kiss KNC ass enough.

you believe they are shipping since they posted more bs?

as I said.. that's news to their thread

and their forum... http://forum.cointerra.com/threads/shipping.344/#post-1473

Well, whether they're going out to masses or private investors right now, one thing we can all agree on:

KNC sure as hell isn't shipping. And the network rate is increasing.

Soo....

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February 01, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
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KNC sure as hell isn't shipping.
Says who? Cloud hashing are adding 2 petahash in the next couple weeks - you think that is ALL coming from Cointerra?


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February 01, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
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Well, whether they're going out to masses or private investors right now, one thing we can all agree on:

KNC sure as hell isn't shipping. And the network rate is increasing.

Soo....

step back and let this phase eat itself.. should be sure to grab cheap miners in a month or so as so many freak out on losing ROI and frying their outlets


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February 01, 2014, 05:31:33 PM
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They're not shipping to protect their customers.. which has been my point for over 45 days.

Lest we forget their statement of shipping in December and January.

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February 01, 2014, 05:36:56 PM
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They're not shipping to protect their customers.. which has been my point for over 45 days.

Lest we forget their statement of shipping in December and January.

have you been mining since Oct?   most that have aren't complaining how this turned out..  but I guess you got your reasons


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February 01, 2014, 06:31:45 PM
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They're not shipping to protect their customers.. which has been my point for over 45 days.

Lest we forget their statement of shipping in December and January.

have you been mining since Oct?   most that have aren't complaining how this turned out..  but I guess you got your reasons



I've been mining since before September, but thank you for your concern. i'm not upset, I don't have any orders with KNC, but many here have begun noticing what I've been pointing out for awhile--MUCH less communication with the community that propped them up, the one thing they always promised not to fail in.

Vague answers isn't good communication, something they also claimed to detest long ago.

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February 01, 2014, 06:52:31 PM
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I've been mining since before September, but thank you for your concern. i'm not upset, I don't have any orders with KNC, but many here have begun noticing what I've been pointing out for awhile--MUCH less communication with the community that propped them up, the one thing they always promised not to fail in.

Vague answers isn't good communication, something they also claimed to detest long ago.
I've been saying the same thing for a long time...

KNC should be like "We would be nothing without the support you have given us. You trusted us with your cash and it allowed us to become millionaires. We are millionaires now and going to enjoy the best Xmas ever. We've made more money than we ever imagined! To say thanks, we are selling X at knocked down price of x. This offer is only available to October guys (ALL of you. We feel sorry now that we told some of you/treated some of you like second class customers), without which we would not be here. It's our way to say thanks. Sorry we were such greedy a-holes and didn't do better to help you when we shipped you faulty goods. That was our fault, not yours, and it's not right we made you pay extra for our mistakes. Now that we are millionaires, we are going to try harder not to be such greedy a-holes."

I hope I get a Xmas card from KNC saying as much!  Or will they cheap out on that too?  Cheesy And not just a crappy Merry Xmas email - a proper printed Xmas card, handsigned by the KNC millionaires club I helped create. Where is the KNC "we won't forget the support you have shown us" they promised to be when they wanted pre-order money back in June? Parasitic, greedy and liars? That's not good. They really need to start turning things around, because we know they took a dump in their pants last week when they finally saw the competition is not far away and poised to rocket past them. They won't get much customer loyalty in the long run if they continue to try to profiteer from their benefactors.
They didn't end up selling shit at a knocked down price, nor did I get a Xmas card from knc...

Let's face it - when a company hits the big time - they get corporate clients. What a relief too. knc hate their consumer customer base. They have projected that hate since at least mid October (N.B. even thought they don't sell to the general public - well, only in so far as they don't care to offer full 2 year consumer warranties. Have some second hand, used rma boards and if we are lucky they'll last to October and then tough luck...).

Now they can sell to corporate clients, who won't care too much if 15 of the 200 machines they recieve are faulty. Who needs those damn consumers with their "my rig doesn't work, please fix it" emails.

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February 01, 2014, 07:28:24 PM
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well, what would there be more to communicate then: "We send all production output to byteminr at the moment". Who wouldn't, being in their shoes?
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February 01, 2014, 07:36:39 PM
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I've been mining since before September, but thank you for your concern. i'm not upset, I don't have any orders with KNC, but many here have begun noticing what I've been pointing out for awhile--MUCH less communication with the community that propped them up, the one thing they always promised not to fail in.

Vague answers isn't good communication, something they also claimed to detest long ago.
I've been saying the same thing for a long time...

KNC should be like "We would be nothing without the support you have given us. You trusted us with your cash and it allowed us to become millionaires. We are millionaires now and going to enjoy the best Xmas ever. We've made more money than we ever imagined! To say thanks, we are selling X at knocked down price of x. This offer is only available to October guys (ALL of you. We feel sorry now that we told some of you/treated some of you like second class customers), without which we would not be here. It's our way to say thanks. Sorry we were such greedy a-holes and didn't do better to help you when we shipped you faulty goods. That was our fault, not yours, and it's not right we made you pay extra for our mistakes. Now that we are millionaires, we are going to try harder not to be such greedy a-holes."

I hope I get a Xmas card from KNC saying as much!  Or will they cheap out on that too?  Cheesy And not just a crappy Merry Xmas email - a proper printed Xmas card, handsigned by the KNC millionaires club I helped create. Where is the KNC "we won't forget the support you have shown us" they promised to be when they wanted pre-order money back in June? Parasitic, greedy and liars? That's not good. They really need to start turning things around, because we know they took a dump in their pants last week when they finally saw the competition is not far away and poised to rocket past them. They won't get much customer loyalty in the long run if they continue to try to profiteer from their benefactors.
They didn't end up selling shit at a knocked down price, nor did I get a Xmas card from knc...

Let's face it - when a company hits the big time - they get corporate clients. What a relief too. knc hate their consumer customer base. They have projected that hate since at least mid October (N.B. even thought they don't sell to the general public - well, only in so far as they don't care to offer full 2 year consumer warranties. Have some second hand, used rma boards and if we are lucky they'll last to October and then tough luck...).

Now they can sell to corporate clients, who won't care too much if 15 of the 200 machines they receive are faulty. Who needs those damn consumers with their "my rig doesn't work, please fix it" emails.

You expect too much!
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February 01, 2014, 08:18:41 PM
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Let's face it - when a company hits the big time - they get corporate clients. What a relief too. knc hate their consumer customer base. They have projected that hate since at least mid October (N.B. even thought they don't sell to the general public - well, only in so far as they don't care to offer full 2 year consumer warranties. Have some second hand, used rma boards and if we are lucky they'll last to October and then tough luck...).

Now they can sell to corporate clients, who won't care too much if 15 of the 200 machines they recieve are faulty. Who needs those damn consumers with their "my rig doesn't work, please fix it" emails.


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February 01, 2014, 08:20:17 PM
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Since KNC stopped participating in this thread I don't think it should be moderated at all. Apparently they left their own thread and never came back.

The problem now has come for all bitcoin manufactures. The difficulty and hashing power is growing quicker then what can be made to turn a profit. It was bound to happen. Unless you own your own server farm, raised floors with air conditioning control which costs thousands per month to maintain anything you buy or pre-order right now won't earn you anything. 3TH, 4TH, 5TH, doesn't really matter. Most residential stuff is out of the question and if you want to stay mining you'll need to spend quite a bit on upgrading your entire home electrical system. What most people forgot is they'll spend thousands doing all the electric but completely leave out or forgot the cooling needs. Buying 20 window fans from Walmart isn't going to cut it anymore. You will need some serious cooling power and that cost a fortune. My group is running 4TH to 5TH and the costs to keep that going are quite expensive.


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February 01, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure it does not cost them more then $2000 for all parts including labor. I'm sure they could sell them as low as $3000. At that price, I'm willing to buy a few Jupiters, even at $3500. And I'm quite sure they could sell the upgrade modules for $600-$800.

My estimate is inventory cost of $1k for a jupiter. based on the price they insure for shipping.

KNC, will we see modules soon?

Why are people still asking this? Apparently KNC isn't going to respond. Jupiter's to them are small time now and they wouldn't even want to spend the money on making them again.

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February 01, 2014, 08:52:27 PM
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Since KNC stopped participating in this thread I don't think it should be moderated at all. Apparently they left their own thread and never came back.

The problem now has come for all bitcoin manufactures. The difficulty and hashing power is growing quicker then what can be made to turn a profit. It was bound to happen. Unless you own your own server farm, raised floors with air conditioning control which costs thousands per month to maintain anything you buy or pre-order right now won't earn you anything. 3TH, 4TH, 5TH, doesn't really matter. Most residential stuff is out of the question and if you want to stay mining you'll need to spend quite a bit on upgrading your entire home electrical system. What most people forgot is they'll spend thousands doing all the electric but completely leave out or forgot the cooling needs. Buying 20 window fans from Walmart isn't going to cut it anymore. You will need some serious cooling power and that cost a fortune. My group is running 4TH to 5TH and the costs to keep that going are quite expensive.



I think before anyone thinks about upgrading their miners they need to stop looking at running them in their house period and start thinking of running out of a co-lo. But before they go down that road they need to figure out if after upgrading all their gear will they be generating enough bitcoins to pay for the co-lo space (rack space, power, and internet)?

Most co-lo's have seen charge you per circuit not by how much electricity you use.
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Let's face it - when a company hits the big time - they get corporate clients. What a relief too. knc hate their consumer customer base. They have projected that hate since at least mid October (N.B. even thought they don't sell to the general public - well, only in so far as they don't care to offer full 2 year consumer warranties. Have some second hand, used rma boards and if we are lucky they'll last to October and then tough luck...).

Now they can sell to corporate clients, who won't care too much if 15 of the 200 machines they recieve are faulty. Who needs those damn consumers with their "my rig doesn't work, please fix it" emails.


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