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March 08, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
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Anyone know the power requirements for the Neptunes?  I have some coming in and i want to buy some power supplies before hand.  i can't really ask for a refund as i have others depending on me making bitcoins for them.

There is only speculation at this point as KnC has not released any final details yet. But it's likely going to require you to run your Neptune inside a co-location as you will likely need two to four 20AMP circuits to power one. In co-lo's you pay per circuit and not pay for the consumption of power.



What 40A to 80A at 230V to power one Neptune I don't think so.  Even 40A@110V sounds far too high as Bitmine can get ~1(GH/s)/~1W@28nm at the wall socket.

Going by KnC's old numbers it was speculated you would need about 3500 watts to power a 4TH/s machine, if KnC bumped it up that high. At this point it's hard to say what the new number means, 43% less power, is that less than original predicted or less than what the 28nm wafer, or chip? So instead of being 0.7watts per GH, I guess its 0.57 watts per GH?

Using the new numbers, I would speculated that you will need 600 to 700 watts of power per 1TH/s. Regardless though I will be sticking my Neptune into a co-lo this way I don't have to worry about the added costs involved in cooling it and I will also able to run it on cleaner power, 200V.




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March 08, 2014, 12:16:13 PM
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Anyone know the power requirements for the Neptunes?  I have some coming in and i want to buy some power supplies before hand.  i can't really ask for a refund as i have others depending on me making bitcoins for them.

You on 110V or 220V?

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March 08, 2014, 11:26:50 PM
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hi phoenix,

whats wrong? i remember you as polite and friendly person in this thread. what happend? how is mining going?

greets

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Too many provokers over the course of say more than half a year. It's hard to be helpful in an environment where there's nothing to be gained, and people stabbing at any and every crack, even when there's none and only speculation. Especially since money is involved, even the slightest thing that goes wrong can turn people into assholes. And many things have went wrong. Money controls our life, at least until enough is earned where we won't have to worry about it (which few achieve). Especially with the lack of accountability that pseudo anonymity brings, it's easy for people to be assholes.

Poor dude. No one can deny that over the months he had been helpful and pretty transparent. Anyone should keep in mind online to not take attacks seriously. But I guess it's hard with how personal and consistent the attacks have been.

I appreciate the information that both sides bring, but the tone and accusations honestly helps no one.

When you put all your eggs in the bitcoin basket and bitcoin turns to shit, that is what happens. When greedy ass people don't have money coming in or are losing out it is very stressful. While I like to have money and it does make things easier I never obsessed over it or became a greedy fuck over it. I was taught many more things are much more important in life. It is unfortunate that the root of all evil is money.

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March 08, 2014, 11:30:28 PM
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There are rumors that the next gen asicminer product will be available in April and use .5w/gh. I'm also very impressed by what bitmain was able to do with their antminers and hope they come out with a more power efficient version soon. The 1TH dragon units also look very interesting.

Stop pre-ordering, people! There is no need to take additional risk with pre-orders when competent companies are producing mining hardware at a fair price that ships immediately.

Knc could be dominating the in stock bitcoin mining hardware market by shipping jupiters as fast as they can make them, but they chose to misuse Neptune preorder money to build their own private mining farm.
Have heard the same, next generation Antminer should be available in April with much more power efficience, and Bitmain is one of the companies wich one changes the miner market away from long time pre-orders. Have ordered some S1 since december and must say - very fast delivery (shortest delivery was received three days after order from china to germany!), very good support & contact with Sushi - perfect, only the power consumption of S1 is too high for long time mining...

And sorry for all "KNC evangelists" - the only thing what you will have with all the Neptune pre-orders is probably a big loss, maybe A.Kennemar and his friends only interested now to put a lot of money in there own pockets... In the swedish video everyone can see how many miners are working only for KNC ***right now*** - probably this is the way wich one the pre-order money is gone. They have delivered the 28nm products last year and after everyone had trust KNC, they have made a big bang to mine all for there own pockets - The temptation was too great, maybe - just my 2 cents...

It is mind boggling thinking how many bitcoin KNC has made already with their farm. They are the ones killing our return/reward from their own miners we bought from them. Fuckers.

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March 08, 2014, 11:32:09 PM
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Anyone know the power requirements for the Neptunes?  I have some coming in and i want to buy some power supplies before hand.  i can't really ask for a refund as i have others depending on me making bitcoins for them.

There is only speculation at this point as KnC has not released any final details yet. But it's likely going to require you to run your Neptune inside a co-location as you will likely need two to four 20AMP circuits to power one. In co-lo's you pay per circuit and not pay for the consumption of power.



What 40A to 80A at 230V to power one Neptune I don't think so.  Even 40A@110V sounds far too high as Bitmine can get ~1(GH/s)/~1W@28nm at the wall socket.

Going by KnC's old numbers it was speculated you would need about 3500 watts to power a 4TH/s machine, if KnC bumped it up that high. At this point it's hard to say what the new number means, 43% less power, is that less than original predicted or less than what the 28nm wafer, or chip? So instead of being 0.7watts per GH, I guess its 0.57 watts per GH?

Using the new numbers, I would speculated that you will need 600 to 700 watts of power per 1TH/s. Regardless though I will be sticking my Neptune into a co-lo this way I don't have to worry about the added costs involved in cooling it and I will also able to run it on cleaner power, 200V.


+1 Well spotted. I was wondering what that % was based on too, 43% less power consumption of something that doesn't exist doesn't make sense really does it? Meaningless number without something to compare it from.

This is so much more fun without any money in Swedish hands to worry about I have to say.
I wish you good fortune come summer. You're braver than I. lol


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March 08, 2014, 11:47:52 PM
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'tape out' completed  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
this was totally unexpected, now I'm excited  Cheesy

Joeventura and his insider information has been wrong with his predictions that there wasn't going to be a physical miner, and I was actually starting to beleive him.

So how long does it take to slice and package wafers?  Anyone?

ok ok you can come back Orama...  this is good news and we can all be friends again  Tongue Kiss

I'll guarantee that you'll see the new 20nm gear running in their data farm before they start making mining rigs. They've turned into greedy monsters and will probably try to persuade everyone to just go for the cloud hashing and not even get a Neptune delivered. When you are making a ton of bitcoin everyday like they are and have been the last thing they want to do is put energy into making new hardware and shipping it out all over the world. Then have to support it.

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March 08, 2014, 11:48:16 PM
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Well to those who are wondering at the refund process I got my refund for 13.2k for 2nd batch Neptune order from knc.

I just looked today not sure how long it took but I send and got a reply to my email with the bank reply was accepted by knc same day of 2/25/14
so today is 3/8/2014....again not sure when it came in yet just have the balance from the atm..but less then what is 11 days...not bad.


So anyway I am also still holding on for a knc miracle on the batch 0 customer appreciation order at $10,131.20 w/ship to USA...

hoping for one or more of the below:

1) 4 to 4.5TH as a compensation..(yeah I'm dreaming)

2) virtual hash 3TH staring March 15th or so till physical miner (see above) (1) arrives say april 15th (yep still dreaming big here is what I am!)

3) can full refund up to the day I can decide between a full refund for miner or virtual miner or whatever

4) and hope like hell that everyone else has dropped Neptune orders...and an avalanche (volcano whatever) destabilizing the KNC GH farm (er after I get my physical (see 1 above) miner!


yep that about covers it for my "in my dreams" scenario

any thing less then at least something kinda sorta real from the above and coward that I am I will punt and run away.....(we also serve who scamper and quiver in the btc universe)

but my FALSE courage stems from the fact I THINK  I have time to refund yet ..if I'm wrong and I can virual mine in March or get physical miner soonest so be it


so fence sitting yet 

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okay, they issued you your full return in Fiat minus fees. Is that correct? Versus today's exchange rate and Fiat price.
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March 09, 2014, 12:02:13 AM
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A skeptic would say that Knc timed their tape-out announcement to slow down refund requests.

If the tape-out was completed in February, why wait until March 5th to announce it when more are more refunds are being requested everyday? I don't get it.

You took the words right out of my mouth. How else would you try to slow down refunds and stop people giving their money to Bitmain? We all remember, "keep your bitcoin handy, they will go fast". Don't forget that, because what someone does in the past only shows who they are today.


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March 09, 2014, 12:50:35 AM
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Ok, I just can't keep up with this thread. Should only be allowed to post once a day. That's all. Now, all you horny men out there, go Google Marine Vacth. She's perfection and has done a soft porn flick you can download. AMAZING.


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March 09, 2014, 02:09:36 AM
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My November Jupiter hashing at 760!gh
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March 09, 2014, 03:04:28 AM
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KNC in mode chinese  Grin

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March 09, 2014, 03:11:17 AM
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seems weird that my name would be repetitiously brought up wrt some sort of 'classic fudster' nonsense when all i have done is point out lies & liars.

it is not my doing or fault they were so vociferous, i merely came to point them out.

would it be better if they were left in peace to run amok among us??

seems that some would believe it to be so, i wonder why??

now that scammer1969 and his alter-ego brothers/mates have slunk off isnt it nicer & safer here?

i certainly think so, even if KnC still show us the same disregard they pretty much always have done.

it baffles me why some posters would prefer if the scammers were given free reign to just be cunts and even go so far as to defend them and/or offer them 'donations'

anyway, for 32 grand im entitled to voice my opinions, so put that in your pipe and dont smoke it, this is a public space!!

OTT & vicious, indeed!!


have you got any proof that pheonix1969 was a scammer? If you have then just prove it and stop.

or were you offended by some dispute/remarks by pheonix1969 in the past and haven't got over it?

You're just making yourself look like someone not operating on all cylinders.  Let it go, enough is enough.



to be quite honest i think its you who is now making himself appear to be 'not operating on all cylinduhhs'

he was and still is a blatant scammer, just like his fake mates and family members.... 'even mum wants a few neptunes now...'

and he was never the entire focus of my posts, when he was busy creating yet more sockpuppet accounts to scam ppl i was busy minding my own business, when his bullshit came to light i pointed at it and stated categorically what it was.

to which i "STILL"  receive insult after insult... why would anyone without a vested interest even care if i point out phoenix's, searings, aussiepetes, KnCs, Avalons, mauiflippers, mr presidents BULLSHIT???

it makes no sense to me that ANYONE would be hurt by a whistleblower unless they somehow stand to lose out by the facts coming to light.

why not focus on something more meaningful sir?

im quite content to spend my time calling a thieving cunt a cunt, you are of course welcome to blindly defend them and attempt to tarnish my name in some vain attempt to admonish them from guilt.
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The Wild West had duels to settle things...  this thread is how the wild west would look without duels

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March 09, 2014, 06:32:47 AM
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Well to those who are wondering at the refund process I got my refund for 13.2k for 2nd batch Neptune order from knc.

I just looked today not sure how long it took but I send and got a reply to my email with the bank reply was accepted by knc same day of 2/25/14
so today is 3/8/2014....again not sure when it came in yet just have the balance from the atm..but less then what is 11 days...not bad.


So anyway I am also still holding on for a knc miracle on the batch 0 customer appreciation order at $10,131.20 w/ship to USA...

hoping for one or more of the below:

1) 4 to 4.5TH as a compensation..(yeah I'm dreaming)

2) virtual hash 3TH staring March 15th or so till physical miner (see above) (1) arrives say april 15th (yep still dreaming big here is what I am!)

3) can full refund up to the day I can decide between a full refund for miner or virtual miner or whatever

4) and hope like hell that everyone else has dropped Neptune orders...and an avalanche (volcano whatever) destabilizing the KNC GH farm (er after I get my physical (see 1 above) miner!


yep that about covers it for my "in my dreams" scenario

any thing less then at least something kinda sorta real from the above and coward that I am I will punt and run away.....(we also serve who scamper and quiver in the btc universe)

but my FALSE courage stems from the fact I THINK  I have time to refund yet ..if I'm wrong and I can virual mine in March or get physical miner soonest so be it


so fence sitting yet  

Searing


okay, they issued you your full return in Fiat minus fees. Is that correct? Versus today's exchange rate and Fiat price.
Regards

yep list price in USD (which is what I paid) less fees ...for the wire xfer..so I'm out 35 bucks total ..but that is normal

now just sitting on fence kicking feet pondering do I fall forward and keep first run knc miner customer appreciation Neptune or fall off the fence backward and run away...sigh

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now just sitting on fence kicking feet pondering do I fall forward and keep first run knc miner customer appreciation Neptune or fall off the fence backward and run away...sigh

Searing

Your thought process is exactly why we got no info on shipping dates.
If they say tomorrow that shipping will be in June, many will "fall backwards" at the current BTC prices.
Last year KnC got lucky in a sense that BTC skyrocketed just as were starting to ship.
This year-who knows.
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March 09, 2014, 07:17:21 AM
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Well to those who are wondering at the refund process I got my refund for 13.2k for 2nd batch Neptune order from knc.

I just looked today not sure how long it took but I send and got a reply to my email with the bank reply was accepted by knc same day of 2/25/14
so today is 3/8/2014....again not sure when it came in yet just have the balance from the atm..but less then what is 11 days...not bad.


So anyway I am also still holding on for a knc miracle on the batch 0 customer appreciation order at $10,131.20 w/ship to USA...

hoping for one or more of the below:

1) 4 to 4.5TH as a compensation..(yeah I'm dreaming)

2) virtual hash 3TH staring March 15th or so till physical miner (see above) (1) arrives say april 15th (yep still dreaming big here is what I am!)

3) can full refund up to the day I can decide between a full refund for miner or virtual miner or whatever

4) and hope like hell that everyone else has dropped Neptune orders...and an avalanche (volcano whatever) destabilizing the KNC GH farm (er after I get my physical (see 1 above) miner!


yep that about covers it for my "in my dreams" scenario

any thing less then at least something kinda sorta real from the above and coward that I am I will punt and run away.....(we also serve who scamper and quiver in the btc universe)

but my FALSE courage stems from the fact I THINK  I have time to refund yet ..if I'm wrong and I can virual mine in March or get physical miner soonest so be it


so fence sitting yet  

Searing


okay, they issued you your full return in Fiat minus fees. Is that correct? Versus today's exchange rate and Fiat price.
Regards

yep list price in USD (which is what I paid) less fees ...for the wire xfer..so I'm out 35 bucks total ..but that is normal

now just sitting on fence kicking feet pondering do I fall forward and keep first run knc miner customer appreciation Neptune or fall off the fence backward and run away...sigh

Searing

many thanks for the reply. Yes not bad..


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March 09, 2014, 08:28:55 AM
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My November Jupiter hashing at 760!gh


Just upgraded my 555gh Jupiter from Oct 18th 2013 arrival...on .90 or whatever 555gh on .95 or whatever 555gh on .99 (the 1st ver)
you guessed it 555gh

ok upgraded yesterday to 1.00 (oct and nov merged version)

556.5gh

whooo hoooo

(can't complain the unit seems to be a stable plodding little mule..but I mean really I get 1.5gh improvement....hmmm probably was just a
tweak of csminer stats..the little mule is still probably plugging along at 555gh)

I guess if your miner arrives in a destroyed box with soggy cardboard and has to be hand delivered with both hands by the DHL guy
and full of rainwater..it must have some kinda of magical properties)

I suppose it makes sense I just kinda plod along too....no where near 555gh thou

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March 09, 2014, 08:38:37 AM
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The Wild West had duels to settle things...  this thread is how the wild west would look without duels
Dpos, we are prob. bored is what it is, so we are looking for entertainment since KNC hasn't given us anything to monkey around with.....we are at each others throats as if marooned on an tiny island and everyone's ready to bash eachother's head in....

so KNC, how goes the cloudhashing, our Neptunes and still no interest in a SCRYPT MINER??

ps.

mining on scryptguild.com for alt coins....I would be using a KNC scrypt machine here as I use a KNC machine for SHA on btcguild.com. Same admin for both, so I know we kick'in ass. Grin

on topic. Grin
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March 09, 2014, 01:45:52 PM
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My November Jupiter hashing at 760!gh


Just upgraded my 555gh Jupiter from Oct 18th 2013 arrival...on .90 or whatever 555gh on .95 or whatever 555gh on .99 (the 1st ver)
you guessed it 555gh

ok upgraded yesterday to 1.00 (oct and nov merged version)

556.5gh

whooo hoooo

(can't complain the unit seems to be a stable plodding little mule..but I mean really I get 1.5gh improvement....hmmm probably was just a
tweak of csminer stats..the little mule is still probably plugging along at 555gh)

I guess if your miner arrives in a destroyed box with soggy cardboard and has to be hand delivered with both hands by the DHL guy
and full of rainwater..it must have some kinda of magical properties)

I suppose it makes sense I just kinda plod along too....no where near 555gh thou

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You have not been here I take it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313978.0

I had a pair of soggy Juiters as well and they did better then 640 each after altering the clocks. Fairly straight forward to do as well.

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March 09, 2014, 02:19:41 PM
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The Wild West had duels to settle things...  this thread is how the wild west would look without duels
Dpos, we are prob. bored is what it is, so we are looking for entertainment since KNC hasn't given us anything to monkey around with.....we are at each others throats as if marooned on an tiny island and everyone's ready to bash eachother's head in....

so KNC, how goes the cloudhashing, our Neptunes and still no interest in a SCRYPT MINER??

ps.

mining on scryptguild.com for alt coins....I would be using a KNC scrypt machine here as I use a KNC machine for SHA on btcguild.com. Same admin for both, so I know we kick'in ass. Grin

on topic. Grin

A KNC scrypt machine..........hmmmmmmmm

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