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March 26, 2014, 12:28:59 PM
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Batch 2 Neptune Order @ ~$10k USD

Ask for refund ? [Y] / [N] Why ?

Well you can get 3TH delivered in April for less than 10k, so really its a bet on how much (if any) KNC over-delivers.

and how much would they have to over deliver to make it worth while? 6TH?
The number grows daily as other vendors step up with cheaper hardware.

I think the answer was clear a month ago but others remain hopeful, for what I just don't know.
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March 26, 2014, 01:10:40 PM
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I think the answer was clear a month ago but others remain hopeful, for what I just don't know.
I agree. High risks are only worth taking for the possibility of high rewards. Neptune does not offer high rewards. With a nice juicy 20% rise in difficulty yesterday, whatever rewards it does offer (breaking even?) are diminishing fast.

Ultimately for those still holding onto their orders, it's a question of whether you trust and believe a company who were getting refund requests thick and fast, then sudden claim in March they taped out in February and they would like you to believe they got 20nm perfect first time and it's a faultless process Huh  Cheesy

With the datorhall, knc have proved beyond all doubt they are lying, scheming, backstabbing scum fucks who will do or say anything for money.

I don't know how anyone could trust them. It's not even worth the risk/reward to trust them.

Anyway, it'll start to get really entertaining in this thread when we hit Q2 Grin

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March 26, 2014, 01:20:40 PM
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..pix per month...

Thanks for that,   your best post to date.   =)

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March 26, 2014, 03:55:10 PM
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Hi All,

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this but I have a November Jupiter that seems to have died.

The fans are on and a blue light is visible from the front but I cannot connect to it and it does not respond to pings. Also the red and green lights on the front never go on.

What do you suggest I do ?

Trippy

Have a look on the KnC forums, but it sounds like your Beaglebone not booting up. It cycles those lights on the controller board late on during the initialisation sequence and of course, it is what you log in to for the miner GUI. If both of those aren't happening it's likely never turning itself on properly.
A few threads in there about reflashing (as a first step) otherwise contact KnC to RMA it.
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March 26, 2014, 05:13:27 PM
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must delivered q1/q2


when q1 end?
and when q2 end?

You can use your brain, too. Instead of asking others to perform the most basic mathematical calculations....

What is a quarter? 1/4

How many months in the year? 12

What is a 1/4 of  12? 3

When does quarter 1 start? Jan 1.

When does it end? Jan 1 + three months......march 31

When does quarter 2 start? april 1

When does quarter 2 end? June 31st


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March 26, 2014, 05:26:36 PM
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Hi All,

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this but I have a November Jupiter that seems to have died.

The fans are on and a blue light is visible from the front but I cannot connect to it and it does not respond to pings. Also the red and green lights on the front never go on.

What do you suggest I do ?

Trippy
Did you try hard reset?


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March 26, 2014, 05:37:27 PM
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Hi All,

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this but I have a November Jupiter that seems to have died.

The fans are on and a blue light is visible from the front but I cannot connect to it and it does not respond to pings. Also the red and green lights on the front never go on.

What do you suggest I do ?

Trippy

One of mine did this once, I turned everything off, left it for 5 minutes not connected to a power source, then removed the cables connecting the boards to the controller. Turned it on, it started up fine, then I just re uploaded the firmware, shut it down, reconnected the cables and rebooted. Seemed to do the trick

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March 26, 2014, 06:21:17 PM
Last edit: March 26, 2014, 08:49:15 PM by tolip_wen
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Batch 2 Neptune Order @ ~$10k USD

Ask for refund ? [Y] / [N] Why ?

Y, KnC and BFL are the same ilk. Stop supporting those toolboxes.

Your criteria for 'same ilk' is quite different from mine.

BFL -> *two weeks late, units detuned.

KnCMiner -> some customers recieved product possibly up to two ACTUAL weeks late.
        EDIT-> All Most customers recieved more Gh/s than they paid for.



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March 26, 2014, 06:58:50 PM
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any news from nepture?

when the first pre order batc of nepture must delivered?

30th June
Can someone please help me to recall this and check my dates below?

My recollection is that Neptune batch 1 (Customer Appreciation batch) was:
1) Delivery Q1/Q2, so 30th June.
2) Delivered 2 weeks before batch 2, which was also Q1/Q2, ie 2 weeks before 30th June, so 16th June.

Can someone tell me if batch 3 was also Q2, and how many weeks after batch 2?

If batch 3 was Q2, and 2 weeks after batch 2, then batch 1 must ship 4 weeks before batch 3, so 2nd June.

Conclusion: batch 1 must ship on 2nd June.

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March 26, 2014, 07:05:30 PM
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any news from nepture?

when the first pre order batc of nepture must delivered?

30th June
Can someone please help me to recall this and check my dates below?

My recollection is that Neptune batch 1 (Customer Appreciation batch) was:
1) Delivery Q1/Q2, so 30th June.
2) Delivered 2 weeks before batch 2, which was also Q1/Q2, ie 2 weeks before 30th June, so 16th June.

Can someone tell me if batch 3 was also Q2, and how many weeks after batch 2?

If batch 3 was Q2, and 2 weeks after batch 2, then batch 1 must ship 4 weeks before batch 3, so 2nd June.

Conclusion: batch 1 must ship on 2nd June.

There is no batch 3 yet, nor has there been a batch 3. There is has only been the introductory offer to KNC Miner customers, then batch 1 and batch 2 pre-orders.

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March 26, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
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any news from nepture?

when the first pre order batc of nepture must delivered?

30th June
Can someone please help me to recall this and check my dates below?

My recollection is that Neptune batch 1 (Customer Appreciation batch) was:
1) Delivery Q1/Q2, so 30th June.
2) Delivered 2 weeks before batch 2, which was also Q1/Q2, ie 2 weeks before 30th June, so 16th June.

Can someone tell me if batch 3 was also Q2, and how many weeks after batch 2?

If batch 3 was Q2, and 2 weeks after batch 2, then batch 1 must ship 4 weeks before batch 3, so 2nd June.

Conclusion: batch 1 must ship on 2nd June.

There is no batch 3 yet, nor has there been a batch 3. There is has only been the introductory offer to KNC Miner customers, then batch 1 and batch 2 pre-orders.


According to KnC's news announcements by email to customers then to news postings on their web site, originally they said:

Customer appreciation batch ("CA") was to ship Q1/Q2 with first open to public ordering batch shipping 3 to 4 weeks after CA batch shipped. Call those CA batch and batch 1 respectively.

Batch 2 was to ship Q2 but only after CA and batch 1 had already shipped, most likely 4 weeks after batch 2.

This means for batch 1 to ship in a timely matter in line with their statements it cannot ship later than the end of Q2, which is June 30. That means the latest CA batch can ship is the first week of June, allowing 3 to 4 weeks prior to shipping. If they stick to their emailed and public statements, KnC will move up the shipping of CA batch to some time in May, followed by batch 1 also some time in May, with batch 2 shipping in June.

KnC probably won't agree, but shipping CA batch any time later than first part of may makes them late, in my opinion. April of course would be better but without an announcement very, very soon, it doesn't look like they're going to ship CA batch and batch 1 in April.
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March 26, 2014, 07:25:30 PM
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any news from nepture?

when the first pre order batc of nepture must delivered?

30th June
Can someone please help me to recall this and check my dates below?

My recollection is that Neptune batch 1 (Customer Appreciation batch) was:
1) Delivery Q1/Q2, so 30th June.
2) Delivered 2 weeks before batch 2, which was also Q1/Q2, ie 2 weeks before 30th June, so 16th June.

Can someone tell me if batch 3 was also Q2, and how many weeks after batch 2?

If batch 3 was Q2, and 2 weeks after batch 2, then batch 1 must ship 4 weeks before batch 3, so 2nd June.

Conclusion: batch 1 must ship on 2nd June.

There is no batch 3 yet, nor has there been a batch 3. There is has only been the introductory offer to KNC Miner customers, then batch 1 and batch 2 pre-orders.


Sorry, you are right.

I was using Tigggger's numbering system from here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348957.0

In any case, regardless of how they are numbered there have been 3 batches. Just subtract 1 from the batch numbers I gave and it will make more sense (batch 0 = CA batch).

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March 26, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
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any news from nepture?

when the first pre order batc of nepture must delivered?

30th June
Can someone please help me to recall this and check my dates below?

My recollection is that Neptune batch 1 (Customer Appreciation batch) was:
1) Delivery Q1/Q2, so 30th June.
2) Delivered 2 weeks before batch 2, which was also Q1/Q2, ie 2 weeks before 30th June, so 16th June.

Can someone tell me if batch 3 was also Q2, and how many weeks after batch 2?

If batch 3 was Q2, and 2 weeks after batch 2, then batch 1 must ship 4 weeks before batch 3, so 2nd June.

Conclusion: batch 1 must ship on 2nd June.

There is no batch 3 yet, nor has there been a batch 3. There is has only been the introductory offer to KNC Miner customers, then batch 1 and batch 2 pre-orders.


According to KnC's news announcements by email to customers then to news postings on their web site, originally they said:

Customer appreciation batch ("CA") was to ship Q1/Q2 with first open to public ordering batch shipping 3 to 4 weeks after CA batch shipped. Call those CA batch and batch 1 respectively.

Batch 2 was to ship Q2 but only after CA and batch 1 had already shipped, most likely 4 weeks after batch 2.

This means for batch 1 to ship in a timely matter in line with their statements it cannot ship later than the end of Q2, which is June 30. That means the latest CA batch can ship is the first week of June, allowing 3 to 4 weeks prior to shipping. If they stick to their emailed and public statements, KnC will move up the shipping of CA batch to some time in May, followed by batch 1 also some time in May, with batch 2 shipping in June.

KnC probably won't agree, but shipping CA batch any time later than first part of may makes them late, in my opinion. April of course would be better but without an announcement very, very soon, it doesn't look like they're going to ship CA batch and batch 1 in April.

No matter what you call it, CA or otherwise, there is no batch 3. There is only CA, B1 and B2 that's all. Likely though the CA and B1 units will manufactured at the same time together but we'll only know this once Neptune's start to ship. For all we know they could ship the entire lot of them a he same time. Smiley
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March 26, 2014, 07:46:35 PM
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Anyone emailed them and asked if they are going to burn in their products this time round? Or do they intend to ship 1000's of faulty boards again?

If their competition are promising 24hr burn in, you'd expect kfc to at least do the 5 minute burn they promised lied forgot about in October

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Anyone emailed them and asked if they are going to burn in their products this time round? Or do they intend to ship 1000's of faulty boards again?

If their competition are promising 24hr burn in, you'd expect kfc to at least do the 5 minute burn they promised lied forgot about in October

I suggested they do a 24 hour burn in at a minimum, using the customer supplied pool information so they're not mining with customer equipment, strictly speaking, but of course no response nor comment from KnC.

When/if they ever ship Neptune, hopefully they've learned from the bad board problems from previous production runs and will do a burn in test before shipping. It's better for the customers and long term better for the manufacturer having fewer support and RMA issues.
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March 26, 2014, 10:18:13 PM
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According to KnC's news announcements by email to customers then to news postings on their web site, originally they said:

Customer appreciation batch ("CA") was to ship Q1/Q2 with first open to public ordering batch shipping 3 to 4 weeks after CA batch shipped. Call those CA batch and batch 1 respectively.

Batch 2 was to ship Q2 but only after CA and batch 1 had already shipped, most likely 4 weeks after batch 2.

This means for batch 1 to ship in a timely matter in line with their statements it cannot ship later than the end of Q2, which is June 30. That means the latest CA batch can ship is the first week of June, allowing 3 to 4 weeks prior to shipping. If they stick to their emailed and public statements, KnC will move up the shipping of CA batch to some time in May, followed by batch 1 also some time in May, with batch 2 shipping in June.

KnC probably won't agree, but shipping CA batch any time later than first part of may makes them late, in my opinion.

No, shipping CA on June 30th, batch 1 on July 30th and batch 2 on August 30th would make batches 1 and 2 late, but batch CA on time.

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According to KnC's news announcements by email to customers then to news postings on their web site, originally they said:

Customer appreciation batch ("CA") was to ship Q1/Q2 with first open to public ordering batch shipping 3 to 4 weeks after CA batch shipped. Call those CA batch and batch 1 respectively.

Batch 2 was to ship Q2 but only after CA and batch 1 had already shipped, most likely 4 weeks after batch 2.

This means for batch 1 to ship in a timely matter in line with their statements it cannot ship later than the end of Q2, which is June 30. That means the latest CA batch can ship is the first week of June, allowing 3 to 4 weeks prior to shipping. If they stick to their emailed and public statements, KnC will move up the shipping of CA batch to some time in May, followed by batch 1 also some time in May, with batch 2 shipping in June.

KnC probably won't agree, but shipping CA batch any time later than first part of may makes them late, in my opinion.

No, shipping CA on June 30th, batch 1 on July 30th and batch 2 on August 30th would make batches 1 and 2 late, but batch CA on time.




KnCMiner Network Protection Statement



 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

 Thanks
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The Fact is:
As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery of Neptunes




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March 26, 2014, 10:49:11 PM
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According to KnC's news announcements by email to customers then to news postings on their web site, originally they said:

Customer appreciation batch ("CA") was to ship Q1/Q2 with first open to public ordering batch shipping 3 to 4 weeks after CA batch shipped. Call those CA batch and batch 1 respectively.

Batch 2 was to ship Q2 but only after CA and batch 1 had already shipped, most likely 4 weeks after batch 2.

This means for batch 1 to ship in a timely matter in line with their statements it cannot ship later than the end of Q2, which is June 30. That means the latest CA batch can ship is the first week of June, allowing 3 to 4 weeks prior to shipping. If they stick to their emailed and public statements, KnC will move up the shipping of CA batch to some time in May, followed by batch 1 also some time in May, with batch 2 shipping in June.

KnC probably won't agree, but shipping CA batch any time later than first part of may makes them late, in my opinion.

No, shipping CA on June 30th, batch 1 on July 30th and batch 2 on August 30th would make batches 1 and 2 late, but batch CA on time.


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KnCMiner Network Protection Statement



 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

 Thanks
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As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery




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KnCMiner Network Protection Statement



 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

 Thanks
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The Fact is:
As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery of Neptunes


Doesn't that statement predate the announcement of Neptunes?
It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

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KnCMiner Network Protection Statement



 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

 Thanks
 KnCMiner Team



The Fact is:
As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery of Neptunes


Doesn't that statement predate the announcement of Neptunes?
It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.





KnC itself, has also been associated with the statement after the announcement of the Neptunes.
and it thus verified to be valid
:







Neptune Sold out
12/14/2013 6:06:00 PM


All,

Our first round Neptune products has now sold out.

We will be working with all of our suppliers to arrange another round of components so please keep an eye on our shop for future shipments of Neptune.

As it looks like our struggling competition may eventually ship before our Network protection period has finished, we may be in a position to release Jupiter’s and possibly upgrade cards which we will ship from stock.

If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick.

Thanks

KnC team

Esst mehr Scheisse, millionen Fliegen können nicht irren!  Cool
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