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March 31, 2014, 03:59:03 PM
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I should note; there are no problems with 20nm that I know of. The shuttle/full mask details I have seem to be standard timescales - which should have been known by all hardware manufacturers in the first instance prior to making any promises on shipping schedules.

Depends on what you constitute as "problems" I guess, first eta for 20nm gpus were late Q1/Q2 2014 around a year ago, Nvidia didn't just push maxwell on 20 nm into Q1 2015 for no good reason. It could simply be supply constraints and Apple pretty much buying up every single 20nm wafer leaving everyone else stranded.
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I should note; there are no problems with 20nm that I know of. The shuttle/full mask details I have seem to be standard timescales - which should have been known by all hardware manufacturers in the first instance prior to making any promises on shipping schedules.

Depends on what you constitute as "problems" I guess, first eta for 20nm gpus were late Q1/Q2 2014 around a year ago, Nvidia didn't just push maxwell on 20 nm into Q1 2015 for no good reason. It could simply be supply constraints and Apple pretty much buying up every single 20nm wafer leaving everyone else stranded.

granted, and as a total neutral in the matter, it does seem that most manufacturers have been a tad overzealous, in the promises they have made.

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March 31, 2014, 04:06:04 PM
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Hello,

The Neptune first batch was advertised with shipping either in Q1 or Q2.
*The miners are expected to ship before the end of Q2. Unfortunately, we do not have more specific time frames.
**We are now in the foundry stage and as soon as the chips arrive we will let you all know.


Best regards  |
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Anna Jagdhar

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*The miners are expected to ship within Q2.
We have finished designing the chips and now expecting for them to arrive.
We should have more specific information and updates once the chips arrive.
Please do not hesitate in contacting us if you have further questions.


Best regards  |
Med vänlig hälsning

Anna Jagdhar

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-79

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**We are now in the foundry stage and as soon as the chips arrive we will let you all know.

Good to see the knc customer service have discovered cut and paste Cheesy Your $10000+ order means a lot to them.

Theyre not gonna deliver annything scrypt base i think untill the end of 2014 as the production isnt yet at place as i can understand by talking back and forth.
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something go not good with knc i think
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?


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March 31, 2014, 04:37:19 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.
err...   k...thank you.


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March 31, 2014, 04:40:33 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided

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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.
err...   thank you.

you are welcome  Grin

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March 31, 2014, 04:41:24 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided

now THIS.. is a whole other shitstorm. that's all i'm saying on that particular matter.

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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided

now THIS.. is a whole other shitstorm. that's all i'm saying on that particular matter.

PM me Wink interested to hear!

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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided
guess CT's dreams of 14nm FinFen being next are gone....
Considering CT's performance on 28nm, I wouldn't bank on anything  special there.
If there's any truth to the document, we will see Plan "B" soon


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March 31, 2014, 04:46:13 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided

now THIS.. is a whole other shitstorm. that's all i'm saying on that particular matter.

PM me Wink interested to hear!

sorry i'm working on a print article. i don't get paid to blog.

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March 31, 2014, 04:52:18 PM
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Hello,

The Neptune first batch was advertised with shipping either in Q1 or Q2.
*The miners are expected to ship before the end of Q2. Unfortunately, we do not have more specific time frames.
**We are now in the foundry stage and as soon as the chips arrive we will let you all know.


Best regards  |
Med vänlig hälsning

Anna Jagdhar

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*The miners are expected to ship within Q2.
We have finished designing the chips and now expecting for them to arrive.
We should have more specific information and updates once the chips arrive.
Please do not hesitate in contacting us if you have further questions.


Best regards  |
Med vänlig hälsning

Anna Jagdhar

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-79

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**We are now in the foundry stage and as soon as the chips arrive we will let you all know.

Good to see the knc customer service have discovered cut and paste Cheesy Your $10000+ order means a lot to them.

Script based miners are way off yet, don't expect anything from Knc until the end of the year or Q1 of next year.

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March 31, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided
guess CT's dreams of 14nm FinFen being next are gone....
Considering CT's performance on 28nm, I wouldn't bank on anything  special there.
If there's any truth to the document, we will see Plan "B" soon

14nm are too old! Smiley

10nm should be next...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264668

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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided
guess CT's dreams of 14nm FinFen being next are gone....
Considering CT's performance on 28nm, I wouldn't bank on anything  special there.
If there's any truth to the document, we will see Plan "B" soon

14nm are too old! Smiley

10nm should be next...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264668


according to your link....2015 on 10nm...


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March 31, 2014, 05:04:09 PM
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They offered two options, to keep your hardware order and be compensated for their lateness with cloud hashing "while you wait" so to speak.
Or swap your hardware order for a cloud hashing order completely.

Hi Biffa,

do you have a link for the offer?

Thanks

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From the "Plan B" announcement: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-75

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In the addition to this commitment, as part of Plan B, for all Neptune customers, we will be offering a free conversion to a hosted hashing package

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March 31, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

Are those times for RISC or CISC products?

An sha256 ASIC is a SINGLE INSTRUCTION part.
Way less complicated by comparison.

Me thinks you mix apples and oranges.

YMMV
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March 31, 2014, 05:12:44 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

Are those times for RISC or CISC products?

An sha256 ASIC is a SINGLE INSTRUCTION part.
Way less complicated by comparison.

Me thinks you mix apples and oranges.

YMMV
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I have cointerra's statistical data on the same document.

yes KnC = apples and CT = oranges.

best wishes.

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March 31, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided
guess CT's dreams of 14nm FinFen being next are gone....
Considering CT's performance on 28nm, I wouldn't bank on anything  special there.
If there's any truth to the document, we will see Plan "B" soon

14nm are too old! Smiley

10nm should be next...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264668


according to your link....2015 on 10nm...

By the time any ASIC mining rig gets their 14nm rig out the door 10nm chips will be available. Smiley
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