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June 13, 2014, 03:08:24 AM
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It is only the batch 2 that is 6k but that come after batch 1. 

Let me get this straight ? Batch 2 comes after batch 1 …

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June 13, 2014, 03:12:11 AM
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Are you math challenged? Neptune is 2.5$/GH while SP30 is 0.88$/GH.

So you *will* agree to match Neptune $/GH for $/GH ?

Are you mentally challenged? You asked me if SP30 will drop the price to match the Neptune's price while Neptune is priced MORE than the SP30. At this point you lost me because I don't understand how can something drop in price to match a bigger price. I am going to sleep now. Have fun shilling for your fail company who refuses to issue refunds https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640847.0

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June 13, 2014, 03:15:31 AM
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It is only the batch 2 that is 6k but that come after batch 1.

Let me get this straight ? Batch 2 comes after batch 1 …



Nepune batch 1 was 12k, Batch 2 is 6k  But batch 2 customers have to wait until batch ones is finished shipping out obviously another 30-60 days after batch 1 is released.

Thats why batch 2 its 6k cheaper than batch1 Neptune.  You know this already

So you trying to compare Batch 1 or batch 2 neptune to sp30 on price is utterly stupid.    not to mention they are less powerful and use more energy.   The Jewish also have more QC over their manufacturing than the Chinese-subs KNC uses.

However KNC might have a better time advantage  if they can actually come out as they claim at end of this month, and then really push the batch 2 late July-early Aug.
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June 13, 2014, 03:16:28 AM
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June 13, 2014, 03:24:20 AM
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Nepune batch 1 was 12k, Batch 2 is 6k  But batch 2 customers have to wait until batch ones is finished shipping out obviously another 30-60 days after batch 1 is released.

Thats why batch 2 its 6k cheaper than batch1 Neptune.  You know this already

So you trying to compare Batch 1 or batch 2 neptune to sp30 on price is utterly stupid.    not to mention they are less powerful and use more energy.   The Jewish also have more QC over their manufacturing than the Chinese-subs KNC uses.


Samsonn25 I'm going to take you at face value and assume you are a well intentioned fellow until you demonstrate otherwise like RoadStress and his merry band 'o gentlemen have. So let me ask you a few questions …

How do you know what $/GH and J/GH KNC are going to deliver in the Neptune ? (hint: you do know that the Titan has gone from 100mh to 400mh since it was offered for sale … what will you do if KNC deliver a 12TH Neptune ? Cancel your SP30 orders ? Sorry - no refunds on SP30 orders … )

How do you know what kind of manufacturing capabilities KNC has so that you can confidently say "shipping out obviously another 30-60 days after batch 1 is released" ?

Do you have a prejudice against the Chinese ? FWIW Chinese companies like Foxconn probably make half the electronics you own, including your IPhone, and their QC is excellent.

If RoadStress is so confident that the SP30 is such a better deal than the Neptune he won't have a problem agreeing to match Neptune $/GH and then we can see what KNC ships. If its a 3TH machine, he hasn't got anything to worry about. If he won't agree to match KNC, then he's just trying to dump SP30 machines at the best possible price before KNC ship their monster Neptune machine. Thats what shills do.

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June 13, 2014, 03:45:55 AM
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"1.  How do you know what $/GH and J/GH KNC are going to deliver in the Neptune ? (hint: you do know that the Titan has gone from 100mh to 400mh since it was offered for sale … what will you do if KNC deliver a 12TH Neptune ? Cancel your SP30 orders ? Sorry - no refunds on SP30 orders … )

2.  How do you know what kind of manufacturing capabilities KNC has so that you can confidently say "shipping out obviously another 30-60 days after batch 1 is released" ?

3.  Do you have a prejudice against the Chinese ? FWIW Chinese companies like Foxconn probably make half the stuff you own, including your IPhone, and their QC is excellent.

4.  If RoadStress is so confident that the SP30 is such a better deal than the Neptune he won't have a problem agreeing to match Neptune $/GH and then we can see what KNC ships. If its a 3TH machine, he hasn't got anything to worry about. If he won't agree to match KNC, then he's just trying to dump SP30 machines at the best possible price before KNC ship their monster Neptune machine. Thats what shills do."


I am  well intentioned unbiased.

1.  I dont know final mining specs for knc jupiter or titan, but they dont have any working prototypes yet for wither machine.  Why would KNC deliver 12TH Nptune if they took all the money 21 million for the suckers that prepaid already and they only promised minimum 3TH?  they are not stupid.  As a matter of fact they can still sell 3TH Neptunes for 6k

2.  It is possible KNC can ship faster that scheduled.  But also possibility they can delay again, even the promised cloud hashing compensation is late, so you think about their credibility.

3.  Chinese makers are the fastest, thats why im sure they are studying the KNC chip design to see if they can improve on it.

4.  We will see, as its a possibility KNC can ship in July so thats earlier than the Sp30.

All depends on shipping any real product out.

Still if KNC only ships 3-4TH in earliest July timeframe the 1 month headstart is probably not enough in savings to a 6TH for 5k in August.  This includes the Free 3TH Neptune KNC promises after Batch 2 is finished shipping out.

Lets see what Bitmain can do this month.  lol     As its a good time to take some market share if they stop being greedy.






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Lets see what Bitmain can do this month.  lol     As its a good time to take some market share if they stop being greedy.

Yup. Another piece of the puzzle .. but I think it will be July before we find out. Meanwhile I think Spond is desperately trying to dump SP30 machines before the next deja vu. KNC is being very quiet … which means to me that they have the Ace up their sleeve ...
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June 13, 2014, 04:02:21 AM
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Why would KNC deliver 12TH Nptune if they took all the money 21 million for the suckers that prepaid already and they only promised minimum 3TH?
They would kill all their competitors permanently and own the market for a long time … if I were KNC I'd ship 12 TH, even if it cost me a little money up front ...
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June 13, 2014, 04:11:15 AM
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RoadStress rage quit … no matching offer … needs his beauty rest  … hopes the mods solve his problem for him ...

Someone please explain me what matching offer is s1gs3gv talking about! Please! I just don't get it.

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June 13, 2014, 04:15:11 AM
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For ego maybe but its not cost effective:

It cost maunfacturers $500-600 per TH now and thats only 1.5w/gh performance, KNC cant even buy at price because they dont manufacture the chips themselves.  Prob cost them  $1000 TH to build their machines.



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June 13, 2014, 04:20:56 AM
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you guys are falling hard for this shill that has no orders with kfc. Dude's a tool, you guys are smarter than that. Seriously, put up or shut up, s1gshill
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June 13, 2014, 04:21:32 AM
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RoadStress rage quit … no matching offer … needs his beauty rest  … hopes the mods solve his problem for him ...

Someone please explain me what matching offer is s1gs3gv talking about! Please! I just don't get it.

Playing dumb huh ? Not everybody here is as dumb as you RoadStress.

Will you sell SP30 machines for Sept delivery with a 100% refund guarantee for the equivalent $/GH price of the Neptune that KNC ships ?
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June 13, 2014, 04:22:48 AM
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For ego maybe but its not cost effective:

It cost maunfacturers $500-600 per TH now and thats only 1.5w/gh performance, KNC cant even buy at price because they dont manufacture the chips themselves.  Prob cost them  $1000 TH to build their machines.

Samsonn25, no bitcoin ASIC miner company manufactures their own chips. They all have similar design and foundry costs.
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June 13, 2014, 04:27:28 AM
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you guys are falling hard for this shill that has no orders with kfc. Dude's a tool, you guys are smarter than that. Seriously, put up or shut up, s1gshill

Just for you foetus. RoadStress is the one who needs to put up or shut up. Match KNC or not RoadStress ? Guaranteed SP30 refund or not RoadStress ?

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June 13, 2014, 04:29:17 AM
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Neptune Rising !

Neptune - 3TH/s - 6000$+VAT+shipping=~7500$ - ~0.8W/GH

SP30 - 6TH/s - 5095$+200$ shipping=5295$ - 0.5W/GH

Ok!

In your dreams bubba. I'm sure you will be willing to drop your SP30 prices to match the KNC Neptune $/GH for $/GH as soon as the Neptune ships, right RoadStress ?

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er huh...the sp30 price was $4495.00 incl shipping that ships in august vs 10,131.80 knc neptune which you will likely get around (being optimistic) say July 1st if they really scream them out..more likely July 15th unit in hand...so we are talking 1 month diff likely?

not sure if I'd go with that Neptune plan (oh wait did not do so dumped my neptune for a Titan..yeah yean laugh I deserve it...still the better of
2 bad choices if it is neptune or titan imho) to be fair you do get a 3rd batch neptune probably end of sept/oct for waiting that long but 3th then don't lift much at that point...

anyway we will see

but with the price diff it is a 'wash' at worst or a win for SP30 under current situations (at this time crap changes) but imho

not a slam here...just saying (trying to be objective here)

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June 13, 2014, 04:29:19 AM
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you guys are falling hard for this shill that has no orders with kfc. Dude's a tool, you guys are smarter than that. Seriously, put up or shut up, s1gshill

faetos I'm just bored while waiting for BTC to hit $1000. The shilltard is owning himself so nobody can fall for him.

RoadStress rage quit … no matching offer … needs his beauty rest  … hopes the mods solve his problem for him ...
Someone please explain me what matching offer is s1gs3gv talking about! Please! I just don't get it.
Playing dumb huh ? Not everybody here is as dumb as you RoadStress.
Will you sell SP30 machines for Sept delivery with a 100% refund guarantee for the equivalent $/GH price of the Neptune that KNC ships ?

This is actually better than Inaba!

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June 13, 2014, 04:36:40 AM
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I am waiting to see what KNC and Bitmain do in the next month or so before I commit any more money to equipment.
The SP30 could well be still born ...
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I am waiting to see what KNC and Bitmain do in the next month or so before I commit any more money to equipment.
The SP30 could well be still born ...

What mining equipment do you own right now?

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June 13, 2014, 04:39:44 AM
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the sp30 price was $4495.00 incl shipping that ships in august

And RoadStress is trying to get $5K for September delivery ? What a tosser ...
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June 13, 2014, 04:41:13 AM
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I am waiting to see what KNC and Bitmain do in the next month or so before I commit any more money to equipment.


it is actually a wash i can do just as well buying bitcoin now and holding as i can/could have done either keeping my batch 1 Neptune or
the $4495 group buy batch 1 that was previously offered for august

just buy coin...from my calcs on www.thegeneisisblock.com at 40% diff rise a month (which I think is low by the way) and 15c kwh and A/C in July/Aug or whatever..

i figure I make 0.20 more btc with equip then coin

whoop de do!

so it goes...(the boat may have sailed..big farms unite....create skynet ack!)

that would suck 'bitcoin network is skynet!"

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