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June 18, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
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im shit out of luck guys and I really want to do something about this legally but dont know whos also going down that track or where to go. i have a really damaged fraken jupe
Are you fucking stupid?  You CHOSE to receive the 3TH early - in a set-up described as patched up bunch of parts in existence rather than wait.  I decided to wait.  You got bitcoin for last 3 months.  I got nothing.  Now that Neptune is ready, you'd like to cry like a little bitch?  Fuck that.  It was understood by everyone what your 3TH would be made of.  You chose that path rather than risk the additional wait. 

Your legal recourse is NOTHING.  You can't ask for legal help now that your dumb choice failed you.  No law protects dumb people who make dumb choices.  You should have waited for on time delivery of your Neptune rather than panic and try to pull a fast one. 

This mistake is on you dumbass.  Quit trying to sue KNC because you weren't expecting anything less than a perfect running Neptune in January.  That was all your dumb mistake.

I wish the fucking crybabies around here would shut up.  KNC is delivering on time, on spec.  All you pussies are just sad your Neptune isn't going to make 25X on investment.  That isn't KNC's fault.  Now, suck it up and quit bitching.  What a fucking little girl. 
 

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June 18, 2014, 08:56:03 PM
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im shit out of luck guys and I really want to do something about this legally but dont know whos also going down that track or where to go. i have a really damaged fraken jupe
Are you fucking stupid?  You CHOSE to receive the 3TH early - in a set-up described as patched up bunch of parts in existence rather than wait.  I decided to wait.  You got bitcoin for last 3 months.  I got nothing.  Now that Neptune is ready, you'd like to cry like a little bitch?  Fuck that.  It was understood by everyone what your 3TH would be made of.  You chose that path rather than risk the additional wait. 

Your legal recourse is NOTHING.  You can't ask for legal help now that your dumb choice failed you.  No law protects dumb people who make dumb choices.  You should have waited for on time delivery of your Neptune rather than panic and try to pull a fast one. 

This mistake is on you dumbass.  Quit trying to sue KNC because you weren't expecting anything less than a perfect running Neptune in January.  That was all your dumb mistake.

I wish the fucking crybabies around here would shut up.  KNC is delivering on time, on spec.  All you pussies are just sad your Neptune isn't going to make 25X on investment.  That isn't KNC's fault.  Now, suck it up and quit bitching.  What a fucking little girl. 
 


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June 18, 2014, 09:22:43 PM
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<rambling> 

I'm going to have a good chuckle after the Neptune burns down your house, the people who got Frankenjups are still hashing and the people that had half a brain in their head refunded, doubling their BTC.
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June 18, 2014, 09:23:49 PM
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Yeeehaaa.. I am glad I planned ahead. Smiley
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How are those cables going to help with the molex on the PCB melting, shorting, and then catching fire?
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June 18, 2014, 09:37:16 PM
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im shit out of luck guys and I really want to do something about this legally but dont know whos also going down that track or where to go. i have a really damaged fraken jupe
Are you fucking stupid?  You CHOSE to receive the 3TH early - in a set-up described as patched up bunch of parts in existence rather than wait.  I decided to wait.  You got bitcoin for last 3 months.  I got nothing.  Now that Neptune is ready, you'd like to cry like a little bitch?  Fuck that.  It was understood by everyone what your 3TH would be made of.  You chose that path rather than risk the additional wait. 

Your legal recourse is NOTHING.  You can't ask for legal help now that your dumb choice failed you.  No law protects dumb people who make dumb choices.  You should have waited for on time delivery of your Neptune rather than panic and try to pull a fast one. 

This mistake is on you dumbass.  Quit trying to sue KNC because you weren't expecting anything less than a perfect running Neptune in January.  That was all your dumb mistake.

I wish the fucking crybabies around here would shut up.  KNC is delivering on time, on spec.  All you pussies are just sad your Neptune isn't going to make 25X on investment.  That isn't KNC's fault.  Now, suck it up and quit bitching.  What a fucking little girl. 
 


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June 18, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
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Well, I was completely wrong about the Neptune never shipping and customers being forced into cloudmining, lol. But oddly, I don't regret my decision to go with the FrankenJup. At least I was able to hash for awhile before the network hashrate starts spiking +25% per difficulty adjustment. It's going to get ugly very soon because all of the big guns will be shipping. Yes, even BFL. Wink
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June 18, 2014, 10:26:30 PM
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Well, I was completely wrong about the Neptune never shipping and customers being forced into cloudmining, lol. But oddly, I don't regret my decision to go with the FrankenJup. At least I was able to hash for awhile before the network hashrate starts spiking +25% per difficulty adjustment. It's going to get ugly very soon because all of the big guns will be shipping. Yes, even BFL. Wink
The Frankenjup was a disaster, but at least you got to end your dealings with KNC, which is a very good thing.

I mean, KNC claim they got their Neptomb chips on Tuesday and said they will ship all Batch 1 this week and all Batch 2 next week. It total and utter lies. I don't know how they can write lies like that and sleep at night. Their children will be disgusted when they find out how KNC made their money through such lies and deceipt.

The pain for the Neptune customers is just beginning. You are lucky not to be involved!  Smiley

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June 18, 2014, 11:08:14 PM
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if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit:   oh, i see..    2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch   Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order.....  wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor.  Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A.  KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating.   Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

i'll give 'em a clue - you can roast marshmallows with it  Wink

Those housings will not survive at those ratings and become brittle and then melt/burn out. I really hope that KnC can get the power down for these or it will be real interesting.

I don't like it one bit. I bought a couple 1300 W PSU so now what? I run 3 off one and 2 from the other? can I do 2.5 on each???

(btw thanks for the PSU switches, they work great)

follow up question, would I be able to run 4 modules from 1 of these?



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June 18, 2014, 11:43:42 PM
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We will have to wait to see what the final power numbers are going to be but the issue isn't with breaking up neptune boxes per PSU but really how much power each box draws looks to be more than the connector/pins are rated for...by a lot.  Unless the power estimates for each board comes down to less than 300w each things will be interesting.

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June 19, 2014, 12:01:12 AM
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We will have to wait to see what the final power numbers are going to be but the issue isn't with breaking up neptune boxes per PSU but really how much power each box draws looks to be more than the connector/pins are rated for...by a lot.  Unless the power estimates for each board comes down to less than 300w each things will be interesting.

Each yellow cable can handle 75W, an 8-pin molex has 3 yellow cables (by spec) placing a total power to 225w, 6-pin pci-e cable has 2 yellow cables, so 150w max power output.

if a single sub-unit of the Neptune would draw 2100w/5 = 420w, it would need at least 6 yellow cables inside 2x 8-pin pci-e connectors.


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June 19, 2014, 12:03:20 AM
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I wish the fucking crybabies around here would shut up.  KNC is delivering on time, on spec.  All you pussies are just sad your Neptune isn't going to make 25X on investment.  That isn't KNC's fault.  Now, suck it up and quit bitching.  What a fucking little girl. 
 

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KnC delivered on spec and on time.  Which other company did that?  

Even Spondoolies which is all talk for the moment hasn't yet pulled this off.  

Now everyone is complaining about the connector?  Buy a fucking soldering gun assholes.  KnC took a serious beating from all you crybabies and they still delivered on spec and on time.  They even DOUBLED the hash for their customers - which they did not have an obligation to do, just to make things good.  It wasn't KnC's fault the difficulty went so high.  On the day I bought, it was my responsibility to figure that out.  Yet KNC doubled my order just because they are fucking nice.  

Everyone who posted anything against KnC was just a full raging dick.  KnC rules.  All you refunders are just bitter you missed it.  Suckers.

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June 19, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
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Does anyone know if they can tell if they really do have 20nm chips as opposed to 28nm if they are going to ship you 5 boxes? What if they shipped Nov jups at 700G underclocked to conserve power and put them in 5 shiny boxes that would equal 3T.
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June 19, 2014, 12:07:42 AM
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KnC delivered on spec and on time.  Which other company did that?  

Quite a few. Avalon, BitFury, ASICMiner, Bitmain, Spondoolies.

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June 19, 2014, 12:11:32 AM
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We are assuming 1 board per box. Perhaps there are 2 boards. Or by some amazing chance 2 connectors but they worded the announcement incorrectly.
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June 19, 2014, 12:25:40 AM
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We are assuming 1 board per box. Perhaps there are 2 boards. Or by some amazing chance 2 connectors but they worded the announcement incorrectly.

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/46242-the-first-20-nanometer-chip-devoted-to-bitcoin

"The Neptune is a 1440-core 55x55 mm package tailor-made for the Bitcoin market. Each Neptune consists of 5 chips and comes in new sturdier enclosure and packaging. Using the speed offered by a true 20nm die process each Neptune churns out more than 3 TH/s while consuming only 2.1 KW at the wall. That works out to 0,7 watts per GH/s or less."

Wow, that was hard to find!

And a little bit more research and you find this...
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-89

Notice the single PCI power connector?
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June 19, 2014, 01:19:16 AM
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Yes.  But that's the whole discussion. How can that 1 connector power up 450 + watts
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June 19, 2014, 01:33:27 AM
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Yes.  But that's the whole discussion. How can that 1 connector power up 450 + watts
I believe the 6-pin Mini-Fit Jr can go up to 13A per circuit if the largest spec pins are used with the appropriate gauge wires. That is 12V x 13A x 3 circuits = 468 watts.

Of course, that is pushing it and the PSU side of the connector might just burn out if not up to spec.
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June 19, 2014, 01:38:55 AM
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Yes.  But that's the whole discussion. How can that 1 connector power up 450 + watts

It can't.  At least not for very long.  It's a seriously retarded design.

The connectors don't always make perfect contact either.  I have had to replace several of these 6-pin connectors on my AntMiner S1s after they fried themselves, and they only move around 190W each.

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June 19, 2014, 01:58:03 AM
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Yes.  But that's the whole discussion. How can that 1 connector power up 450 + watts

I was just attempting to correct your misconceptions. You didn't appear to have read the news updates so I thought I'd link/quote them. I didn't say what KNC is attempting is logical or feasible. In fact it might be their biggest mistake yet since they seem to be purposely releasing miners into the wild that could potentially be extremely hazardous.
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June 19, 2014, 02:23:57 AM
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Yes.  But that's the whole discussion. How can that 1 connector power up 450 + watts

I was just attempting to correct you misconceptions. You didn't appear to have read the news updates so I thought I'd link/quote them. I didn't say what KNC is attempting is logical or feasible. In fact it might be their biggest mistake yet since they seem to be purposely releasing miners into the wild that could potentially be extremely hazardous.

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