Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[dogjunior]

I recieved my batch 2 titan finally after months of waiting. I requested a refund, knowing that there is no chance in hell i can get any ROI now. Since I've got it now, I want to send that thing back, and press on with litigation through Magnus Daar at Nova. Has anyone been in a similar situation where you you returned their titian junk back to them? I don't know where to ship the thing

So if you returned the Titan and then the next day LTC shot up to $100 a coin would you then ask KNC to ship the unit back to you? I know it sucks to buy something which is then shipped late and  LTC price is not helping. But most know buying a piece of mining hardware is a risk. You are either comfortable with the risk or don't buy. KNC also has not done any favors by shipping defective units. I have a Titan and I know that I won't ROI any time soon or maybe never. But this was the risk I took. Hiring a lawyer and trying to fight it out with KNC I believe is pointless.

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[dropt]

There are no refunds. Read the terms on their website.

But are the terms enforceable?  Unless I'm mistaken (and it's quite possible) people have gotten refunds by going the legal route, which would imply that the terms aren't.

[Searing]

I recieved my batch 2 titan finally after months of waiting. I requested a refund, knowing that there is no chance in hell i can get any ROI now. Since I've got it now, I want to send that thing back, and press on with litigation through Magnus Daar at Nova. Has anyone been in a similar situation where you you returned their titian junk back to them? I don't know where to ship the thing

they refuse all such shipments i hear and ship it back at your cost....not sure how that works....limbo i guess if you don't accept this ping pong not sure where the equip ends up

ask your lawyer he probably will just say keep it (maybe even use it) who knows....but we are talking KNC at one time they said they would 'destroy' any returned

products with a demand for refund (they changed their tune within a day or so) but just so you know (email around someplace to them from somebody to that effect

or so I was told on someone asking to return an item in the past)

good luck on your case.....i can get 1/4 off in equip depreciation as a biz by just mining it....my hope is another 1/4 to 1/2 of the purchase price back mining LTC and hope for a pop in price...
but them are long odds to get 1/2 or 3/4 of my purchase price back not counting electric...but i could not pull the trigger for the lawyers ($1.5K) and if KNC wins
you are liable (with the others) for their legal costs....so frack .....punted out of this idea ..knc will appeal this till the heat death of the universe....

but I wish you luck and hope you get all your $$$ back plus damages  ..

[proudpak]

I recieved my batch 2 titan finally after months of waiting. I requested a refund, knowing that there is no chance in hell i can get any ROI now. Since I've got it now, I want to send that thing back, and press on with litigation through Magnus Daar at Nova. Has anyone been in a similar situation where you you returned their titian junk back to them? I don't know where to ship the thing

Best to ask your lawyer and do as he advises.

[Phoenix1969]

^^selling HashLast and KNC stuff. 16nm is coming? 

I think he prefers to buy the btc with the money he makes from selling the neptune      the 16nm will probably be ready somewhere near Q4 2015 - Q1 2016..

16-nanometer will be pimpin' the diff any day actually, but there will be no Public sales other than cloud-hashing contracts.

[notthematrix]

I recieved my batch 2 titan finally after months of waiting. I requested a refund, knowing that there is no chance in hell i can get any ROI now. Since I've got it now, I want to send that thing back, and press on with litigation through Magnus Daar at Nova. Has anyone been in a similar situation where you you returned their titian junk back to them? I don't know where to ship the thing

Best to ask your lawyer and do as he advises.

Well no way in hell you can claim KNC for ROI...
If LTC was exploded you were not complaining.
so its a gamble and you lost.
sending back the shipment is just stupid.

[notthematrix]

^^selling HashLast and KNC stuff. 16nm is coming?  

I think he prefers to buy the btc with the money he makes from selling the neptune      the 16nm will probably be ready somewhere near Q4 2015 - Q1 2016..

16-nanometer will be pimpin' the diff any day actually, but there will be no Public sales other than cloud-hashing contracts.

with all theese law horney idiotes I would had stoped public selling too.
chances are they wait a while with 16 NM.

[notthematrix]

Sent a broken Titan module and a month later got a 100% working one. Am I lucky or is KNC doing a better job of supporting their customers.

No your not lucky most people here are scammers ,,
I Had 2 broken neptunes and they were replaced within 48 during working week.
I had a broken BEAGLE bone littele black computer with blue leds.
and got a new one within 4 days.
but for the beaglebone its easyer to just buy one http://www.adafruit.com/product/1996
and replace and flash it your self.
KNC uses a oler version of the Beagle bone REV a6 or a6a
the A6 version has a but that it will not start because of bad flash memory.
the BBB is ab OPENSOURCE development board , that means always work in progress.
Sadley most buyers are consumers who dont have any clue about tweaking,
So I guess thats why knc stoped selling miners.
and only chineese firms are selling now...
they dont care about consumer right , they simply dont count in china.

[jelin1984]

Still wait my Titan batch 2 mini??
Does anyone received their mini

[teslaman]

Sent a broken Titan module and a month later got a 100% working one. Am I lucky or is KNC doing a better job of supporting their customers.

No your not lucky most people here are scammers ,,
I Had 2 broken neptunes and they were replaced within 48 during working week.
I had a broken BEAGLE bone littele black computer with blue leds.
and got a new one within 4 days.
but for the beaglebone its easyer to just buy one http://www.adafruit.com/product/1996
and replace and flash it your self.
KNC uses a oler version of the Beagle bone REV a6 or a6a
the A6 version has a but that it will not start because of bad flash memory.
the BBB is ab OPENSOURCE development board , that means always work in progress.
Sadley most buyers are consumers who dont have any clue about tweaking,
So I guess thats why knc stoped selling miners.
and only chineese firms are selling now...
they dont care about consumer right , they simply dont count in china.

Always with the incorrect usage of "scammer". So now we're all liars and KnC is glorious, lol. Glory be to KnC! (bows) haha. Many people, even on the now dead KnC forum, have had RMAs take a month or more, so that's nothing new, or lucky. Living in KnC's rectum probably gets people fast RMA times though. Mine took 2 weeks from when KnC got it, to when they shipped a replacement back. Was about a month total with the shipping time.

Again with the bad BBB information. Whoever archived the KnC forum should look for KnC's response about the newer BBBs and post it here. I think it was in reply to fabulouspanda asking if a new one would work, but I couldn't find it in Google's cache. He was one of the people shafted for over a month on his RMA. I remember them saying that the new Rev C wouldn't work since it used a newer OS, or some such thing, and the firmware would have to be rewritten for it. Also, every single KnC BBB I've seen is a Rev B6. I think even my old Mercury uses a B6, but I'm not sure on that.

If you don't want to waste your time and money, then make sure you buy a Rev B6! Maybe KnC is wrong (wouldn't be the first, or last time) and someone can get a new Rev C working, but I sure wouldn't want to be taking that gamble.

[Searing]

Sent a broken Titan module and a month later got a 100% working one. Am I lucky or is KNC doing a better job of supporting their customers.

No your not lucky most people here are scammers ,,
I Had 2 broken neptunes and they were replaced within 48 during working week.
I had a broken BEAGLE bone littele black computer with blue leds.
and got a new one within 4 days.
but for the beaglebone its easyer to just buy one http://www.adafruit.com/product/1996
and replace and flash it your self.
KNC uses a oler version of the Beagle bone REV a6 or a6a
the A6 version has a but that it will not start because of bad flash memory.
the BBB is ab OPENSOURCE development board , that means always work in progress.
Sadley most buyers are consumers who dont have any clue about tweaking,
So I guess thats why knc stoped selling miners.
and only chineese firms are selling now...
they dont care about consumer right , they simply dont count in china.

Always with the incorrect usage of "scammer". So now we're all liars and KnC is glorious, lol. Glory be to KnC! (bows) haha. Many people, even on the now dead KnC forum, have had RMAs take a month or more, so that's nothing new, or lucky. Living in KnC's rectum probably gets people fast RMA times though. Mine took 2 weeks from when KnC got it, to when they shipped a replacement back. Was about a month total with the shipping time.

Again with the bad BBB information. Whoever archived the KnC forum should look for KnC's response about the newer BBBs and post it here. I think it was in reply to fabulouspanda asking if a new one would work, but I couldn't find it in Google's cache. He was one of the people shafted for over a month on his RMA. I remember them saying that the new Rev C wouldn't work since it used a newer OS, or some such thing, and the firmware would have to be rewritten for it. Also, every single KnC BBB I've seen is a Rev B6. I think even my old Mercury uses a B6, but I'm not sure on that.

If you don't want to waste your time and money, then make sure you buy a Rev B6! Maybe KnC is wrong (wouldn't be the first, or last time) and someone can get a new Rev C working, but I sure wouldn't want to be taking that gamble.

I was told (by keith I think it was) that BBB for a Neptune was the same as Jupiter and Saturn and could be flashed to work on a Neptune....Titans as folk know use raspberry pi B+ (at least the 1st batch stuff ) also by keith at KNC if i remember correctly

I also seem to remember them saying the newer BBB would not work then the above and also the newer raspberry pi beyond the B+ also was a no go

an to me they will always be 'scammers' knc that is for the simple act ...of going back on their old site and keeping old dates and revising that they were making an LTC miner in those orig posts rather then that alt coin miner they had there previous but again keeping the OLD d(even if you go with consumer takes all the risk my point is numerous examples beyond this ..ie misinformation and fraud) .......but nuking the site and all the old web pages is probably a wise move on KNC's part....in that they do have lawsuits etc in play

anyway not to beat a dead horse..but what I was told above by techs there at one time in a forum reply (not that we can find them anymore)

[PsychoticBoy]

^^selling HashLast and KNC stuff. 16nm is coming? 

I think he prefers to buy the btc with the money he makes from selling the neptune      the 16nm will probably be ready somewhere near Q4 2015 - Q1 2016..

16-nanometer will be pimpin' the diff any day actually, but there will be no Public sales other than cloud-hashing contracts.

And that is how KNC (and other big mining manufacturers) are destoying the Bitcoin Eco system.

They have earned your trust in the old days and now they are revealing them self as the greedy criminals they are.
Wish I punched Sam Cole in the kisser at the Bitcoin 2014 conference in Amsterdam, too bad I did not

[notthematrix]

^^selling HashLast and KNC stuff. 16nm is coming? 

I think he prefers to buy the btc with the money he makes from selling the neptune      the 16nm will probably be ready somewhere near Q4 2015 - Q1 2016..

16-nanometer will be pimpin' the diff any day actually, but there will be no Public sales other than cloud-hashing contracts.

And that is how KNC (and other big mining manufacturers) are destoying the Bitcoin Eco system.

They have earned your trust in the old days and now they are revealing them self as the greedy criminals they are.
Wish I punched Sam Cole in the kisser at the Bitcoin 2014 conference in Amsterdam, too bad I did not

Blane the lawyers here . they give the people who are to stupid to haldle a miner the possibility toe sue KNC...
the result will be they stop selling to end users! is that simple!
so in the end blame it on the short term bastearts.
Now oly chineese componys will sell to you they can not be sued , by stupid people so they can take the risk.

[SgtMoth]

^^selling HashLast and KNC stuff. 16nm is coming? 

I think he prefers to buy the btc with the money he makes from selling the neptune      the 16nm will probably be ready somewhere near Q4 2015 - Q1 2016..

16-nanometer will be pimpin' the diff any day actually, but there will be no Public sales other than cloud-hashing contracts.

And that is how KNC (and other big mining manufacturers) are destoying the Bitcoin Eco system.

They have earned your trust in the old days and now they are revealing them self as the greedy criminals they are.
Wish I punched Sam Cole in the kisser at the Bitcoin 2014 conference in Amsterdam, too bad I did not

Blane the lawyers here . they give the people who are to stupid to haldle a miner the possibility toe sue KNC...
the result will be they stop selling to end users! is that simple!
so in the end blame it on the short term bastearts.
Now oly chineese componys will sell to you they can not be sued , by stupid people so they can take the risk.

So its my fault that I got delivered a box of fkn broken pieces from KNC?  Bitmain never sent me one box with loose pieces in it.  Who the fuck are you to come in here and shoot your fucken mouth blaming the consumers.  Ive gotten fucked over by BFL and KNC, not the chinese!

[proudpak]

^^selling HashLast and KNC stuff. 16nm is coming?  

I think he prefers to buy the btc with the money he makes from selling the neptune      the 16nm will probably be ready somewhere near Q4 2015 - Q1 2016..

16-nanometer will be pimpin' the diff any day actually, but there will be no Public sales other than cloud-hashing contracts.

And that is how KNC (and other big mining manufacturers) are destoying the Bitcoin Eco system.

They have earned your trust in the old days and now they are revealing them self as the greedy criminals they are.
Wish I punched Sam Cole in the kisser at the Bitcoin 2014 conference in Amsterdam, too bad I did not

Blane the lawyers here . they give the people who are to stupid to haldle a miner the possibility toe sue KNC...
the result will be they stop selling to end users! is that simple!
so in the end blame it on the short term bastearts.
Now oly chineese componys will sell to you they can not be sued , by stupid people so they can take the risk.

So its my fault that I got delivered a box of fkn broken pieces from KNC?  Bitmain never sent me one box with loose pieces in it.  Who the fuck are you to come in here and shoot your fucken mouth blaming the consumers.  Ive gotten fucked over by BFL and KNC, not the chinese!

It is never your fault. I blame low IQed people, who don't understand the difference between a consumer or business product for sale and stock. Nor they can apprehend why there is a LAW to protect consumer and businesses from companies like KnC, BFL etc. The easiest thing to do is use a button called ignore such individuals, because arguing with them will not solve anything. It is not possible for them to understand anything besides what they say is right and might.

[bgibso01]

HELP!

After a solid week of mining, my Neptune controller won't recognize my cubes.  I have to be missing something simple because I now have 2 controllers like that.  I've used recovery SD to RC6, updated to 1.00, 1.02, 1.05, 1.06s and none will see the cubes.

Instead of white flash that's about a second, I now get a short white flash 3x spaced out over probably 15 seconds.  No green led

I'm sure this must be common, so what am I missing?

PS: All ribbons are firmly attached.  Red strip towards corner of cube and groove in controller.  I've tried just one cube and still nothing.

[notthematrix]

HELP!

After a solid week of mining, my Neptune controller won't recognize my cubes.  I have to be missing something simple because I now have 2 controllers like that.  I've used recovery SD to RC6, updated to 1.00, 1.02, 1.05, 1.06s and none will see the cubes.

Instead of white flash that's about a second, I now get a short white flash 3x spaced out over probably 15 seconds.  No green led

I'm sure this must be common, so what am I missing?

PS: All ribbons are firmly attached.  Red strip towards corner of cube and groove in controller.  I've tried just one cube and still nothing.

First you should have upgraded directly to 106S but this is not a real problem looks like your ELEMENT14  BBONE-BLACK-4G  BEAGLEBONE BLACK REV C, CORTEX A8  is broken... (KNC used older versions A6)
but rev-C fixed a few hardware bugs and 100% compatible with the older A6 rev Just get a new one here.
http://www.element14.com/community/community/designcenter/single-board-computers/next-gen_beaglebone/

replace it by carfully removing the old BBB form the control board.
flash the new BBB with http://www.kncminer.com/downloads/support/neptune/SD_Neptune_rc6.zip from microSD card...
to do this use a fat 16 formated micro sd card max 8 gb
make it booable with http://www.ptdd.com/fixboot.htm if you use microbullshit products , if you use linux use fdisk and set the boot flag on the partition table .. copt the flis from the zip file on the micro sd card.
put the micro sd in the BBB , power up the board and the BBB , it wil start and a withe , blue , green flashing light tells that flashing is finisched , remove card from beagle ,  now you sould have  version 0.6 or someting , before you connect antything , imeadatly upgrade to 1.06s vir the web interface.
When done connect the cube
the defaults are all cubes off volatage -0.0366
 , you need to reconfigure all you miner config including volatage speed , miner account , miner server , etc , if you cant do this soory you sould not have been buying this stuff , it requires some tech skills to operate an miner.
Maby I can buy the stuff from you for a good price   , but if you understand what iam wiriting I hope this is helpfull.
btw you can sevarly undervolt the cubes I have them running as low as -0.0839 volts at 500 mhz!
one miner can use  as low as 1880 watts at all cubes at 500mhz.
if your lucky.

[bgibso01]

First you should have upgraded directly to 106S but tyhis is not a real problem looks like your beagle bone is broken...
Just get a new one here.
http://www.element14.com/community/community/designcenter/single-board-computers/next-gen_beaglebone/

replace it by carfully removing the old BBB form the control board.
flash the new BBB with http://www.kncminer.com/downloads/support/neptune/SD_Neptune_rc6.zip from microSD card...
to do this use a fat 16 formated sd card max 8 gb
make it booable with http://www.ptdd.com/fixboot.htm if you use microbullshit products , if you use linux use fdisk and set the boot flag on the partition table .. copt the flis from the zip file on the micro sd card.
put the micro sd in the BBB , power up the board and the BBB , it wil start and a withe , blue , green flashing light tells that flashing is finisched , remove card from beagle ,  now you sould have  version 0.6 or someting , before you connect antything , imeadatly upgrade to 1.06s vir the web interface.
When done connect the cube
the defaults are all cubes off volatage -0.0366
 , you need to reconfigure all you miner config including volatage speed , miner account , miner server , etc , if you cant do this soory you sould not have been buying this stuff , it requires some tech skills to operate an miner.
Maby I can buy the stuff from you for a good price   , but if you understand what iam wiriting I hope this is helpfull.
btw you can sevarly undervolt the cubes I have them running as low as -0.0829 volts at 500 mhz!
one miner uses around 1880 watts at all cubes at 500mhz.
if your lucky.

Thanks for the reply.  Do you suppose that even though it flashed to RC6 before, that it didn't work because I didn't have the sd bootable?  I was hoping it was just something stupid, but looks like it's not.  Another question before diving into this.  How is the BBB attached? Screws? Pins? Solder?

[notthematrix]

First you should have upgraded directly to 106S but tyhis is not a real problem looks like your beagle bone is broken...
Just get a new one here.
http://www.element14.com/community/community/designcenter/single-board-computers/next-gen_beaglebone/

replace it by carfully removing the old BBB form the control board.
flash the new BBB with http://www.kncminer.com/downloads/support/neptune/SD_Neptune_rc6.zip from microSD card...
to do this use a fat 16 formated sd card max 8 gb
make it booable with http://www.ptdd.com/fixboot.htm if you use microbullshit products , if you use linux use fdisk and set the boot flag on the partition table .. copt the flis from the zip file on the micro sd card.
put the micro sd in the BBB , power up the board and the BBB , it wil start and a withe , blue , green flashing light tells that flashing is finisched , remove card from beagle ,  now you sould have  version 0.6 or someting , before you connect antything , imeadatly upgrade to 1.06s vir the web interface.
When done connect the cube
the defaults are all cubes off volatage -0.0366
 , you need to reconfigure all you miner config including volatage speed , miner account , miner server , etc , if you cant do this soory you sould not have been buying this stuff , it requires some tech skills to operate an miner.
Maby I can buy the stuff from you for a good price   , but if you understand what iam wiriting I hope this is helpfull.
btw you can sevarly undervolt the cubes I have them running as low as -0.0829 volts at 500 mhz!
one miner uses around 1880 watts at all cubes at 500mhz.
if your lucky.

Thanks for the reply.  Do you suppose that even though it flashed to RC6 before, that it didn't work because I didn't have the sd bootable?  I was hoping it was just something stupid, but looks like it's not.  Another question before diving into this.  How is the BBB attached? Screws? Pins? Solder?

Just pins , its the small black board on the controler , just carefuly remove it and replace it
Making a fat 16 bootble micro SD card is quite easy in linux , for windows  use something like this

http://www.ptdd.com/fixboot.htm

[bgibso01]

Just pins , its the small black board on the controler , just carefuly remove it and replace it
Making a fat 16 bootble micro SD card is quite easy in linux , for windows  use something like this

http://www.ptdd.com/fixboot.htm

Great, I'll give it a shot at the office tomorrow.  I did the sd but followed KnC's directions.  It didn't say make it bootable or FAT16, so I did one non-bootable on FAT32.  Otherwise it looked like it copied because it came up saying RC6 as the firmware before I updated it.  I guess 5 of my TH will be down until I can get a couple more BBBs here.

I don't really mind the Neptunes.  They seem just a bit more finicky than the Jups & Sats I had.  Plus KnC refunded my $10,166 and I'm getting these cubes second hand.  Seems like a win-win for me.