Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[HappyS]

only method of getting the machine is stockholm pick up...no shipping options yet..

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[Rampion]

only method of getting the machine is stockholm pick up...no shipping options yet..

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Yes, UPS is on the list.

[HappyS]

only method of getting the machine is stockholm pick up...no shipping options yet..

!!!!

Yes, UPS is on the list.

I don't have it on list.

[mat542]

Yes, UPS is on the list.

I don't have it on list.

Maybe they don't propose UPS for your country.
What is your country ?

[Rampion]

only method of getting the machine is stockholm pick up...no shipping options yet..

!!!!

Yes, UPS is on the list.

I don't have it on list.

I do. And it's a pretty expensive option, BTW.

[Bitcoinorama]

only method of getting the machine is stockholm pick up...no shipping options yet..

!!!!

Yes, UPS is on the list.

I don't have it on list.

I do. And it's a pretty expensive option, BTW.

UPS quoted me double the price earlier than it does now.

Also one day expedited shipping is the only option aside pick-up I saw.

To the UK was around $250 earlier, and is now half that.

I'm not sure what to make of Mars, all I do know was two days back the majority of people were bitching about it being there and an expensive waste, now it's not people are bitching about it being removed as too many people were complaining about it being an expensive waste!!

[KS]

This is puzzling.

They say in the newsletter they wouldn't be taking money before showing a working prototype... But then they cancel the "Mars" product, which is the only existing working prototype (and it's a FPGA, not an ASIC!!!!!), while they open payments for the Jupiters and Saturn (ASICs), for which a prototype is yet to be seen, and we have to pay in the next 7 days or we lose your spot in the queue? Plus, they make a lottery in order to get as many customers paying in the next 48 hours, starting from now?

I'm the only one reading some contradictions in all this?

It's called "bait and switch".

[thomashrev89]

only method of getting the machine is stockholm pick up...no shipping options yet..

!!!!

Yes, UPS is on the list.

I don't have it on list.

I do. And it's a pretty expensive option, BTW.

I'm not sure what to make of Mars, all I do know was two days back the majority of people were bitching about it being there and an expensive waste, now it's not people are bitching about it being removed as too many people were complaining about it being an expensive waste!!

+1

[Phinnaeus Gage]

FTR we just placed Jupiter order and was order #129. We have an email into them asking about pay period and delivery period. Looking forward to more info from Open Day attendees.

Edit: that wasn't our pre-order number.  That is our new number now that they are accepting payments.
Got an email from Andreas confirming that we have 7 days to make the payment.

Catching up on this thread, I find this. If this is true, then this is where I call foul. The purpose of the meeting(s) is to assure the buyers that all is on the up-and-up prior to accepting any moneys.

[phr33]

Um, how do you guys pay for your pre-orders? By putting in new orders?

[Mota]

I find it extremely hard to cope with the current development. In Germany the cc chargeback is only valid for 2 months, not 120 days like in the UK. I had (and have again) orders pending for around 45k. And now I have to pay the full amount in 7 days? Are they insane? They have one video of the product, the open day was not yet and they expect me to pay them most of my savings 4 months in advance without securities? I would be willing to send them maybe 10k now and the rest upon delivery, but certainly not more...

[Phinnaeus Gage]

So now there's "new order #" (which you can either order a "1-500" miner or just regular miner for the same price?) and old order # (pre-order mars, anything, 1-500 or the 1/2 price for the delayed deliveries, or just a straight up pre-order # only) vs pay now or pay later (how many days we got to pay it?)?

So confused with this system they got going at the moment. These guys change their system/mind like the wind.

If you would have done your homework, you would have learned that you're dealing with a person--Sam--who has the same makeup as Tom Van Riper of eBasic. I tried to tell you guys, but you didn't listen. Sam is the Swedish version of TVR, and THIS IS A FACT. Andreas Kennemar is a only a tad better than TVR, with Sam being on par, if not less.

[stoechi]

Just called KNC (seems like great support so far), he told me we have to place our orders (the same amount or less we preregistered) and the payment date (the date when it leaves my bank account) counts. The will match your order with your place in the queue.

It is possible to use different payment method if you split up in different orders. Means f.e. 1 order to pay with bitcoins and 1 with paypal is possible.

He said the will be absolutely able to deliver Jupiters in time (i said i hope we´ll get them this year, "delays measure in couple of days"), they have "10 years of experience" and "lot of global fundries" to manage even the 28nm challenge.

For me it sounded pretty well and confident, however, now its about to get the freakin money..

[Xialla]

Um, how do you guys pay for your pre-orders? By putting in new orders?

yes same here. i've got only mails from preorder, but "my account > order history" is empty..

[pitchbend]

Damn, the fact that they are encouraging people to pay just BEFORE the open day with their lottery thingy sounds strange to say the least.

Also all this changes at the last minute...

[Phinnaeus Gage]

48 Hours and get in on the lottery. Seriously! They know damn well about Sonny at BFL, yet opt to use a lottery as a marketing ploy.

I'm now guessing that somehow either the meeting(s) will be called off or not all five dudes will be in attendance.

All this has now turned into a money grab ASAP game. Sadly, they'll get the money. Sadly, the product line will be delayed. 28nm--SERIOUSLY!

[stoechi]

..and yes - to cope with the strange development. Why didnt they wait another 2 weeks for the people to get confident? Hmm..

[canth]

48 Hours and get in on the lottery. Seriously! They know damn well about Sonny at BFL, yet opt to use a lottery as a marketing ploy.

I'm now guessing that somehow either the meeting(s) will be called off or not all five dudes will be in attendance.

All this has now turned into a money grab ASAP game. Sadly, they'll get the money. Sadly, the product line will be delayed. 28nm--SERIOUSLY!

I have a feeling that you're going to be right about much of this. I don't think that KNC has any malicious intentions, but there are so many things that could go wrong between now and their estimated ship date. With that said, I would never underestimate the hope and greed for those that missed out on AM shares, Avalon batch 1 units, etc.

So, Phinneas, shall we take your post to mean that you definitely won't be placing an order?

[whitefeather]

From the KNCMiner Email:

We know a lot of people have ordered the device simply to gain a queue placement for Jupiter and quite a few people have asked us not to send them the device but to charge them and just allow them to use the queue placement.

So given all of the above we have decided that we will remove Mars in its current form from sale.

All I can say is WOW.This is taking the BFL Model to the next level.

Their logic is WE want to GIVE them money, and WE DON'T WANT a product in return (Mars), but WE INSIST on forking over money to them so that in return we might see a product (Saturn, Jupiter) some time in the near future.

Amazing.

[Bitcoinorama]

48 Hours and get in on the lottery. Seriously! They know damn well about Sonny at BFL, yet opt to use a lottery as a marketing ploy.

I'm now guessing that somehow either the meeting(s) will be called off or not all five dudes will be in attendance.

All this has now turned into a money grab ASAP game. Sadly, they'll get the money. Sadly, the product line will be delayed. 28nm--SERIOUSLY!

I have a feeling that you're going to be right about much of this. I don't think that KNC has any malicious intentions, but there are so many things that could go wrong between now and their estimated ship date. With that said, I would never underestimate the hope and greed for those that missed out on AM shares, Avalon batch 1 units, etc.

So, Phinneas, shall we take your post to mean that you definitely won't be placing an order?

Didn't Phinneas want Sam and a guy from or ORSoC to add a picture of themselves together?

And probably they don't know about Sonny from BFL, and lottery scams, they would have had to read and followed your posts in other threads.