Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[kendog77]

Mining is over

I remember hearing that in 2011 and a lot more often 

If BTC hits $10,000 per coin in 2014, fast mining hardware will be worth it's weight in gold... 

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[FiatKiller]

Mining is over

I remember hearing that in 2011 and a lot more often 

If BTC hits $10,000 per coin in 2014, fast mining hardware will be worth it's weight in gold... 

Heck, if BTC goes high enough, even a Block Eruptor is valuable.

[vesperwillow]

They're selling the shit out of the Avalon 2 units, 200GH for $2250 is not bad at all, considering you can get it shipped right away. Forget Hashlast and cointerra, let's allow us to get some Jupiters

This is one of the reasons I've been saying KNC is ducking on its promise. This has been going on for what, a month and a half now? 500 machines available wasn't it? At 200gh, that's.. a lot of hash power on the network.

[vesperwillow]

Golly! BTC sent your way!

lol

[kendog77]

Dear KnC  

"We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network."

If you are serious about this statement

There's only really one way of doing this.   Sell  (previous customers only)  more  mining equipment now and deliver by mid February.

Even if I was to get a refund on a Neptune , with the extra mined btc , I will buy more miners from you, Neptune's or Pluto's or what ever the next miner you sell.

All serious miners realise they need to get more hashing power right now .    

You will make more monies in the long run and so will we.

Thanks for listening

Pete

They're selling the shit out of the Avalon 2 units, 200GH for $2250 is not bad at all, considering you can get it shipped right away. Forget Hashlast and cointerra, let's allow us to get some Jupiters

Agreed. If the Avalon 2 units were not so power hungry and did not have anything to do with Avalon, I would pick up a couple myself. It was only a matter of time before cheap Chinese ASICs flooded the market, and it appears as if that time is almost hear. I think Bitmain and Btmine will ramp up production and start selling hardware at a price closer to the cost of production sooner than we think.

Time is everything in this business, and having the best chip means nothing if it is delivered late.

sushi is in China negotiating with ASIC producers, and it's going to be really hard not to back up the truck if he can offer Antminers that ship immediately at ~2 BTC. I'm very interested in the terms of his next group buy...

[The Avenger]

Golly! BTC sent your way!

lol

Sold out already! (aka mods deleted it )

[Paladin69]

They're selling the shit out of the Avalon 2 units, 200GH for $2250 is not bad at all, considering you can get it shipped right away. Forget Hashlast and cointerra, let's allow us to get some Jupiters

This is one of the reasons I've been saying KNC is ducking on its promise. This has been going on for what, a month and a half now? 500 machines available wasn't it? At 200gh, that's.. a lot of hash power on the network.

They're ducking because too many people want to refund their Neptunes seeing the hashrate get obliterated and would rather mine now.

I think they should scrap the Neptune and just sell more Jupiters with improved modifications...get it to 800GH.  I don't think the Neptune specs are that hot.  Skip 20nm and move straight forward to 16nm in a configuration that doesn't benefit asshole cloud share companies.  Or maybe try to make a kick ass scrypt FPGA.

[shmadz]

They're selling the shit out of the Avalon 2 units, 200GH for $2250 is not bad at all, considering you can get it shipped right away. Forget Hashlast and cointerra, let's allow us to get some Jupiters

This is one of the reasons I've been saying KNC is ducking on its promise. This has been going on for what, a month and a half now? 500 machines available wasn't it? At 200gh, that's.. a lot of hash power on the network.

They're ducking because too many people want to refund their Neptunes seeing the hashrate get obliterated and would rather mine now.

I think they should scrap the Neptune and just sell more Jupiters with improved modifications...get it to 800GH.  I don't think the Neptune specs are that hot.  Skip 20nm and move straight forward to 16nm in a configuration that doesn't benefit asshole cloud share companies.  Or maybe try to make a kick ass scrypt FPGA.

I don't think there will be any scrypt FPGA's they will go straight to asic. (*edit* perhaps FPGA for preliminary design, like the mars)

with the memory intensive nature of scrypt and seeing how fast, plentiful memory is a big deal already on graphics cards, I'm curious to see how that plays out.

[soy]

Holding out for new Jupiters from KnC or my Neptune.  In the meantime I just flip over a changing network hashrate chart and know it describes the return of a fixed hashrate - like what one has while waiting for KnC.

[Easy2Mine]

I think KnC will shipped the Neptunes faster than we think.
They always overdelivered.
This time also.

[Searing]

Given the time-frame, It would be no surprise to me if they decided at this point NOT to do Jupiters...  or already have decided such.
But then again...  if that was the case, they'd have no reason to be silent about it.... so take your pick....lol.

imho if the neputune current 2nd batch (467 or some such left) sold out by friday....we'd have jupiters

if they DON'T sell out the neputune 2nd batch by next friday say....I see no chance of Jupiters

not that I know zip.....but I see no Jupiters in the wild till the 2nd batch neptunes sell out

imho anyway (you guys can keep track if i'm right or not) just my guess

Searing

[Searing]

If there is any way we can pay a reasonable premium to have the Neptunes shipped as two separate 1.5TH units that work on a standard American household circuit (instead of needing to use two circuits total for a single 3TH unit), I would be very interested in placing an additional order for 3TH.

ditto that would be the way to move them 2nd batch Neptunes!

Searing

[ASIC-K]

If there is any way we can pay a reasonable premium to have the Neptunes shipped as two separate 1.5TH units that work on a standard American household circuit (instead of needing to use two circuits total for a single 3TH unit), I would be very interested in placing an additional order for 3TH.

ditto that would be the way to move them 2nd batch Neptunes!

Searing

i said this a month ago and everyone laughed. ugh.

[Searing]

Mining is over

I remember hearing that in 2011 and a lot more often 

If BTC hits $10,000 per coin in 2014, fast mining hardware will be worth it's weight in gold... 

crap.....have a bfl 7gh jally i'm in denial about...should get it up (or sell it) 10k bitcoin 2014 huh.....may you be the prophet of bitcoin and your words be true!

(anyone interested in a 7gh jally bfl sitting around pm an offer or it goes on ebay)

end of plug

but yeah back to the topic above mining?

I have a hard time thinking i'm gonna mine anything with an asic by the time fall equip comes out....what will a unit be then ...25k or some such...see myself being squeezed out (hope i'm wrong however..sure 10k bitcoin in 2014...er the equip will likely be more then 25k if that is the case....

my 2c worth (unlikely worth that much)


Searing

[Phoenix1969]

a smaller unit would cost more Gh/$, compounding the current speculation of Neptune difficulty even further.

[1l1l11ll1l]

If there is any way we can pay a reasonable premium to have the Neptunes shipped as two separate 1.5TH units that work on a standard American household circuit (instead of needing to use two circuits total for a single 3TH unit), I would be very interested in placing an additional order for 3TH.

ditto that would be the way to move them 2nd batch Neptunes!

Searing

i said this a month ago and everyone laughed. ugh.

Id imagine two PSUs could be used

[ASIC-K]

If there is any way we can pay a reasonable premium to have the Neptunes shipped as two separate 1.5TH units that work on a standard American household circuit (instead of needing to use two circuits total for a single 3TH unit), I would be very interested in placing an additional order for 3TH.

ditto that would be the way to move them 2nd batch Neptunes!

Searing

i said this a month ago and everyone laughed. ugh.

Id imagine two PSUs could be used

yeah, it would just be nice if the unit was two smaller units so i could put them on  two circuits easily.

[xstr8guy]

Given the time-frame, It would be no surprise to me if they decided at this point NOT to do Jupiters...  or already have decided such.
But then again...  if that was the case, they'd have no reason to be silent about it.... so take your pick....lol.

imho if the neputune current 2nd batch (467 or some such left) sold out by friday....we'd have jupiters

if they DON'T sell out the neputune 2nd batch by next friday say....I see no chance of Jupiters

not that I know zip.....but I see no Jupiters in the wild till the 2nd batch neptunes sell out

imho anyway (you guys can keep track if i'm right or not) just my guess

Searing

Doesn't make one bit of difference as long as people can refund their Neptunes.

[soy]

If there is any way we can pay a reasonable premium to have the Neptunes shipped as two separate 1.5TH units that work on a standard American household circuit (instead of needing to use two circuits total for a single 3TH unit), I would be very interested in placing an additional order for 3TH.

ditto that would be the way to move them 2nd batch Neptunes!

Searing

i said this a month ago and everyone laughed. ugh.

Id imagine two PSUs could be used

Or seven 360watt 12 volt switching supplies and a BBB wall wart.

[Searing]

Given the time-frame, It would be no surprise to me if they decided at this point NOT to do Jupiters...  or already have decided such.
But then again...  if that was the case, they'd have no reason to be silent about it.... so take your pick....lol.

imho if the neputune current 2nd batch (467 or some such left) sold out by friday....we'd have jupiters

if they DON'T sell out the neputune 2nd batch by next friday say....I see no chance of Jupiters

not that I know zip.....but I see no Jupiters in the wild till the 2nd batch neptunes sell out

imho anyway (you guys can keep track if i'm right or not) just my guess

Searing

Doesn't make one bit of difference as long as people can refund their Neptunes.

er again not that I know what I'm talking about ..but if you have 10-13k Neptune orders in hand...do you really want people to refund to buy Jupiters NOW....(hey they may buy less) and so forth..this could be for a good reason or a bad reason on our part...the BAD reason is that they can't split their work load and do both Neptunes and Jupiters due to correct estimates on Neptune project difficulty...or it is becoming more difficult to make the time line as they go along....or the GOOD reason...Neptunes are proceeding at such a good pace it would be silly to release the Jupiters in that they are going to make their Q1 timeline and ship Neptunes (Valentines Day is my wish...heh.....) and/or before April 1st...so why bother with Jupiters to protect customers....the Neptunes will arrive in mass on time ..from their point of view....too many irons in the fire at this point...

again just kibitzing here

my 2c worth (likely not worth that)

Searing