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December 06, 2016, 08:44:54 AM
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Hello. I have big problem. My wallet (Electrum) let me to spent amount that wasn't fully confirmed (only 1 confirmation). So this is what happend and how : I got bitcoins in my wallet, it get 1 confirmation, I sent it to other address and it stuck with 0 confirmation and confirmation warning : "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed" . I checked first transaction(transaction in which I got btc to my wallet) and guess what it also bocome unconfirmed. That transaction was confirmed (in details in electrom wallet there is information that there is 73 confirmation but when you look on blockchain it is unconfirmed with 0 confirmations) so how it lost confirmations and what action I can do now to unstuck that transactions. So here are transaction :

1. https://blockchain.info/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142    (this is first transaction in which bitcoins was send to my wallet - first it was confirmed, but when I sent that btc to other address it lost confirmations and become unconfirmed)

I tried to rebroadcast this and my node replied:

Code:
transaction already in block chain (code -27)

As you can see here -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142

it has 75 confirmations.

2. https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d     (this is second transaction where I sent btc to another address, here is part that I send amount of btc from first tranasaction that wasn't fully confirmed, if you click show scripts and coinbase you will see that amount that got stuck is same amount from first transaction)

This is not stuck with small fee (fee is biger than normal) but becouse spending amount that wasn't confirmed so double spending with increased fee is not solution here. Can someone help me and give me advice how to unstuck that bitcoins?

The fee is fine, it should confirm soon. I rebroadcasted it in order to make sure its not forgotten. You can do see yourself if you take the raw transaction, e.g. from here[1] and use one of the pages listed here[2]

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d?format=hex
[2] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

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December 06, 2016, 08:51:31 AM
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Hello. I have big problem. My wallet (Electrum) let me to spent amount that wasn't fully confirmed (only 1 confirmation). So this is what happend and how : I got bitcoins in my wallet, it get 1 confirmation, I sent it to other address and it stuck with 0 confirmation and confirmation warning : "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed" . I checked first transaction(transaction in which I got btc to my wallet) and guess what it also bocome unconfirmed. That transaction was confirmed (in details in electrom wallet there is information that there is 73 confirmation but when you look on blockchain it is unconfirmed with 0 confirmations) so how it lost confirmations and what action I can do now to unstuck that transactions. So here are transaction :

1. https://blockchain.info/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142    (this is first transaction in which bitcoins was send to my wallet - first it was confirmed, but when I sent that btc to other address it lost confirmations and become unconfirmed)

I tried to rebroadcast this and my node replied:

Code:
transaction already in block chain (code -27)

As you can see here -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142

it has 75 confirmations.

2. https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d     (this is second transaction where I sent btc to another address, here is part that I send amount of btc from first tranasaction that wasn't fully confirmed, if you click show scripts and coinbase you will see that amount that got stuck is same amount from first transaction)

This is not stuck with small fee (fee is biger than normal) but becouse spending amount that wasn't confirmed so double spending with increased fee is not solution here. Can someone help me and give me advice how to unstuck that bitcoins?

The fee is fine, it should confirm soon. I rebroadcasted it in order to make sure its not forgotten. You can do see yourself if you take the raw transaction, e.g. from here[1] and use one of the pages listed here[2]

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d?format=hex
[2] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

It is strange becouse on coinbase it write first transaction is unconfirmed and on other places (including my wallet) it write it has 75 confirmation. In second transaction there is warning that it spent unconfirmed amount and when you click show scripts and coinbase there is (U) next to that amount  (12ujCstpjNkwansEaPsyJv2WiPrCAUczAa (U) (0.13829395 BTC - Output) ) . I hope it will be solved soon but I waited for 14+ hours and this bothers me.
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December 06, 2016, 09:23:44 AM
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Hello. I have big problem. My wallet (Electrum) let me to spent amount that wasn't fully confirmed (only 1 confirmation). So this is what happend and how : I got bitcoins in my wallet, it get 1 confirmation, I sent it to other address and it stuck with 0 confirmation and confirmation warning : "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed" . I checked first transaction(transaction in which I got btc to my wallet) and guess what it also bocome unconfirmed. That transaction was confirmed (in details in electrom wallet there is information that there is 73 confirmation but when you look on blockchain it is unconfirmed with 0 confirmations) so how it lost confirmations and what action I can do now to unstuck that transactions. So here are transaction :

1. https://blockchain.info/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142    (this is first transaction in which bitcoins was send to my wallet - first it was confirmed, but when I sent that btc to other address it lost confirmations and become unconfirmed)

I tried to rebroadcast this and my node replied:

Code:
transaction already in block chain (code -27)

As you can see here -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142

it has 75 confirmations.

2. https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d     (this is second transaction where I sent btc to another address, here is part that I send amount of btc from first tranasaction that wasn't fully confirmed, if you click show scripts and coinbase you will see that amount that got stuck is same amount from first transaction)

This is not stuck with small fee (fee is biger than normal) but becouse spending amount that wasn't confirmed so double spending with increased fee is not solution here. Can someone help me and give me advice how to unstuck that bitcoins?

The fee is fine, it should confirm soon. I rebroadcasted it in order to make sure its not forgotten. You can do see yourself if you take the raw transaction, e.g. from here[1] and use one of the pages listed here[2]

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d?format=hex
[2] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

It is strange becouse on coinbase it write first transaction is unconfirmed and on other places (including my wallet) it write it has 75 confirmation. In second transaction there is warning that it spent unconfirmed amount and when you click show scripts and coinbase there is (U) next to that amount  (12ujCstpjNkwansEaPsyJv2WiPrCAUczAa (U) (0.13829395 BTC - Output) ) . I hope it will be solved soon but I waited for 14+ hours and this bothers me.

Coinbase runs full nodes[1] to get their data same as blockchain.info and blocktrail.com. If their data suggests a TX with 75 confirmations is unconfirmed, it means their node is at least 75 blocks behind. It might be something that will be solved on its own, or maybe they currently have problems with their node.

[1] Its just a guess, they could also rely on others running a full node as a service, via an API. The details shouldnt matter here though

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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December 06, 2016, 10:19:40 AM
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Hello. I have big problem. My wallet (Electrum) let me to spent amount that wasn't fully confirmed (only 1 confirmation). So this is what happend and how : I got bitcoins in my wallet, it get 1 confirmation, I sent it to other address and it stuck with 0 confirmation and confirmation warning : "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed" . I checked first transaction(transaction in which I got btc to my wallet) and guess what it also bocome unconfirmed. That transaction was confirmed (in details in electrom wallet there is information that there is 73 confirmation but when you look on blockchain it is unconfirmed with 0 confirmations) so how it lost confirmations and what action I can do now to unstuck that transactions. So here are transaction :

1. https://blockchain.info/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142    (this is first transaction in which bitcoins was send to my wallet - first it was confirmed, but when I sent that btc to other address it lost confirmations and become unconfirmed)

I tried to rebroadcast this and my node replied:

Code:
transaction already in block chain (code -27)

As you can see here -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142

it has 75 confirmations.

2. https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d     (this is second transaction where I sent btc to another address, here is part that I send amount of btc from first tranasaction that wasn't fully confirmed, if you click show scripts and coinbase you will see that amount that got stuck is same amount from first transaction)

This is not stuck with small fee (fee is biger than normal) but becouse spending amount that wasn't confirmed so double spending with increased fee is not solution here. Can someone help me and give me advice how to unstuck that bitcoins?

The fee is fine, it should confirm soon. I rebroadcasted it in order to make sure its not forgotten. You can do see yourself if you take the raw transaction, e.g. from here[1] and use one of the pages listed here[2]

[1] https://blockchain.info/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d?format=hex
[2] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

It is strange becouse on coinbase it write first transaction is unconfirmed and on other places (including my wallet) it write it has 75 confirmation. In second transaction there is warning that it spent unconfirmed amount and when you click show scripts and coinbase there is (U) next to that amount  (12ujCstpjNkwansEaPsyJv2WiPrCAUczAa (U) (0.13829395 BTC - Output) ) . I hope it will be solved soon but I waited for 14+ hours and this bothers me.

Coinbase runs full nodes[1] to get their data same as blockchain.info and blocktrail.com. If their data suggests a TX with 75 confirmations is unconfirmed, it means their node is at least 75 blocks behind. It might be something that will be solved on its own, or maybe they currently have problems with their node.

[1] Its just a guess, they could also rely on others running a full node as a service, via an API. The details shouldnt matter here though

Is there any way to cancel that transaction or will it cancel automaticaly after some time or did I lose all btc that I used in this transaction?
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December 06, 2016, 10:27:04 AM
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All Bitcoin transaction that goes to blockchain can't be cancel, the transaction are all irreversible
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December 06, 2016, 11:16:44 AM
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All Bitcoin transaction that goes to blockchain can't be cancel, the transaction are all irreversible

Its not confirmed and thus not part of the blockchain yet.

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Is there any way to cancel that transaction or will it cancel automaticaly after some time or did I lose all btc that I used in this transaction?

The BTC are never lost, if the transaction is not confirmed after a few days chances are high that it will be forgotten by the network adn that you can create a new one.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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December 06, 2016, 12:20:27 PM
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All Bitcoin transaction that goes to blockchain can't be cancel, the transaction are all irreversible

Its not confirmed and thus not part of the blockchain yet.

-snip-
Is there any way to cancel that transaction or will it cancel automaticaly after some time or did I lose all btc that I used in this transaction?

The BTC are never lost, if the transaction is not confirmed after a few days chances are high that it will be forgotten by the network adn that you can create a new one.

This one,
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142

has 98 confirmations.

And this one,
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d

has multiple confirmations too.

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December 06, 2016, 03:48:36 PM
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All Bitcoin transaction that goes to blockchain can't be cancel, the transaction are all irreversible

Its not confirmed and thus not part of the blockchain yet.

-snip-
Is there any way to cancel that transaction or will it cancel automaticaly after some time or did I lose all btc that I used in this transaction?

The BTC are never lost, if the transaction is not confirmed after a few days chances are high that it will be forgotten by the network adn that you can create a new one.

This one,
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/0748579ea3df24e2312d1ea53be28f7eae0c92f09c271e0721d5b716f134d142

has 98 confirmations.

And this one,
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/55d7bedaf4e9c14f4cb58762d7334bcbd92687c9cc8a265e542892a623d8923d

has multiple confirmations too.



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