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May 12, 2013, 10:49:51 PM
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The forum isn't a scam prevention service.  Don't take anythings continued existence here to be a sign of support for it.

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May 12, 2013, 11:03:10 PM
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But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.

I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.

I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice.

Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot.

You're so stupid you cannot be real.

You are an idiot, did you not read the last two lines?

You must be from Amurica.

Im as real as it gets, unlike many of the regurgitators such as you here.
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May 13, 2013, 12:24:01 AM
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But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.

I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.

I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice.

Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot.

You're so stupid you cannot be real.

You are an idiot, did you not read the last two lines?

You must be from Amurica.

Im as real as it gets, unlike many of the regurgitators such as you here.

...says the idiot who sent money to these scammers.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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May 13, 2013, 01:41:49 AM
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But i can come up with a scenario that would end with me having a unit. Here it is, they were not ready when faced with the community's demands, so to avoid a false start they faked some evidence to get funding and more time to complete an actual unit. And due to strict contract with component providers they cannot provide any Electrical CAD, device pictures or videos. They also do not want to show any stats until its on par with its target, also because stats are not undeniable proof.

I do not believe that, its a hypothetical scenario.
I am not responsible for the resulting electro-chemical reactions that have resulted in your brain from reading anything i have posted.

I've changed my stance. Before you had a choice.

Whether you have been in on the scam or not, you are, without question...a complete, and utter; idiot.

You're so stupid you cannot be real.

You are an idiot, did you not read the last two lines?

You must be from Amurica.

Im as real as it gets, unlike many of the regurgitators such as you here.

...says the idiot who sent money to these scammers.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

it was an investment risk, intellect plays a role but my decision was done with the information at hand at that point in time, it does not make me an idiot to have played the game of risks.
scammed? not yet, whether they truly are a scam is still up for debate until someone comes out with no money and no unit. At this point we are still playing with probability's and not absolutes, a game of risks not a game of tactics. Obviously now it tends towards an irrationally improbable risk and thats why i got a refund. But nevertheless im still in the game.
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May 13, 2013, 04:29:30 AM
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it was an investment risk, intellect plays a role but my decision was done with the information at hand at that point in time, it does not make me an idiot to have played the game of risks.
scammed? not yet, whether they truly are a scam is still up for debate until someone comes out with no money and no unit. At this point we are still playing with probability's and not absolutes, a game of risks not a game of tactics. Obviously now it tends towards an irrationally improbable risk and thats why i got a refund. But nevertheless im still in the game.
I don't think the others in this thread call you an idiot because of your initial order.

The main cause of them calling you an idiot is because you don't stop finding excuses to justify that you payed for one of these.
We don't need your theories on why Cedartec did things or did not. Those theories are completely worthless and only spread doubt that will trigger a counter response.

If you do not want to get a refund on your first order and take the risk, fine.
But stop posting you theories, they do make you look like an idiot, sorry mate.
Let Cedartec do the talking for a change.

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May 13, 2013, 04:41:51 AM
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it was an investment risk, intellect plays a role but my decision was done with the information at hand at that point in time, it does not make me an idiot to have played the game of risks.
scammed? not yet, whether they truly are a scam is still up for debate until someone comes out with no money and no unit. At this point we are still playing with probability's and not absolutes, a game of risks not a game of tactics. Obviously now it tends towards an irrationally improbable risk and thats why i got a refund. But nevertheless im still in the game.
I don't think the others in this thread call you an idiot because of your initial order.

The main cause of them calling you an idiot is because you don't stop finding excuses to justify that you payed for one of these.
We don't need your theories on why Cedartec did things or did not. Those theories are completely worthless and only spread doubt that will trigger a counter response.

If you do not want to get a refund on your first order and take the risk, fine.
But stop posting you theories, they do make you look like an idiot, sorry mate.
Let Cedartec do the talking for a change.

no i can post my theory's if i want, people may judge but i dont call Ad hominem arguments judgments.
doubt is neutral, welcome it.

I am considering a refund for my first order if they dont start talking soon.
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May 13, 2013, 05:16:26 AM
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no i can post my theory's if i want, people may judge but i dont call Ad hominem arguments judgments.
doubt is neutral, welcome it.
You are being childish.
And no, they don't judge you ad hominem. They couldn't because they don't know anything about your person.
They judge you because of the pointless arguments you post.

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May 13, 2013, 05:41:32 AM
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no i can post my theory's if i want, people may judge but i dont call Ad hominem arguments judgments.
doubt is neutral, welcome it.
You are being childish.
And no, they don't judge you ad hominem. They couldn't because they don't know anything about your person.
They judge you because of the pointless arguments you post.

they dont need to know my person to make ad hominem arguments, calling me an idiot is an ad hominem when it is a reply. Also they have this virtual person with its own personality that they know.
pointlessness is a matter of opinion.

we are sidetracking into semantics, the problem at hand is that we have a company who has faked a device around a partially sound story and is giving refunds even tho they have been busted for the fake evidence.
What does the community think?
Whats CedarTec statement on this?
Whats next, whats real, why?
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May 13, 2013, 05:45:32 AM
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I dont care what they are doing, is a scam, end of story. You could easily refund 2 people, so you can lure another 10 intro the scam.
The thing is, nobody trust you either, so you can stop posting here, you are wasting keys.

The forum isn't a scam prevention service.  Don't take anythings continued existence here to be a sign of support for it.

Nobody is asking mods to do any investigation, but when a scam is reaveled by users and there is proof about it, its normal to report it as scam, and do exactly the same thing is was done with Prime ASIC... the "?" still on the title is an insult to me, that i put 3 hours intro this to bring clear evidence that this was an scam.

Looking the other way IS support the scammers and nobody whants to start thinking there are a mod bribed or part of it, that is no good for anyone... so, ill highly recomend mods to do the 30 seconds task of editing the title, ban the user and put a warning in the OP with the page number to the evidence, exactly the same is was done with PrimeASIC...

There is no much to disscuss about it.  Ill start accussing mods of supporting scammers if nothing is done.

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May 13, 2013, 05:59:21 AM
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I dont care what they are doing, is a scam, end of story. You could easily refund 2 people, so you can lure another 10 intro the scam.

The forum isn't a scam prevention service.  Don't take anythings continued existence here to be a sign of support for it.

Nobody is asking mods to do any investigation, but when a scam is reaveled by users and there is proof about it, its normal to report it as scam, and do exactly the same thing is was done with Prime ASIC... the "?" still on the title is an insult to me, that i put 3 hours intro this to bring clear evidence that this was an scam.

Looking the other way IS support the scammers and nobody whants to start thinking there are a mod bribed or part of it, that is no good for anyone... so, ill highly recomend mods to do the 30 seconds task of editing the title, ban the user and put a warning in the OP with the page number to the evidence, exactly the same is was done with PrimeASIC...

There is no much to disscuss about it. Ill start accussing mods of supporting scammers if nothing is done.

Well it took fake delivery's to prove primeASIC was a scam.
I guarantee you not only 3 refunds were made, not many will be forthcoming about the risk they took and humiliation of falling for a scam (if they feel there should be any humiliation). I think of the 160orders maybe 60 would have asked for a refund by now.
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May 13, 2013, 06:10:36 AM
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Yeah... because i can see it... give a few refunds(if that is even true), change the board image for a better one and tada, its real now? NO it just a better trap.
They claim to have a working ASIC, that ends to be a just a sewered Motherboard with randoms parts on it, its a scam, there is NO MORE discussion to be had, even the Russians figure it out when they see that highly insulting "ASIC hardware" image, you are the only one that is trying to give them any credit, and you are sleeping user that as 90+% of his posts in this tropic!

I gona say it again, stop wasting time, nobody cares what you say, half of the things you say does not make any sence, and the other half nobody belives you.

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May 13, 2013, 07:02:09 AM
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Yeah... because i can see it... give a few refunds(if that is even true), change the board image for a better one and tada, its real now? NO it just a better trap.
They claim to have a working ASIC, that ends to be a just a sewered Motherboard with randoms parts on it, its a scam, there is NO MORE discussion to be had, even the Russians figure it out when they see that highly insulting "ASIC hardware" image, you are the only one that is trying to give them any credit, and you are sleeping user that as 90+% of his posts in this tropic!

I gona say it again, stop wasting time, nobody cares what you say, half of the things you say does not make any sence, and the other half nobody belives you.


im not disagreeing or agreeing, they may or may not do that
some do care, you do not represent everybody.
they have given refunds, ands thats what puzzles me. In no way does that benefit them with the current community. scam? i dont know
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May 13, 2013, 07:17:22 AM
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Yeah... because i can see it... give a few refunds(if that is even true), change the board image for a better one and tada, its real now? NO it just a better trap.
They claim to have a working ASIC, that ends to be a just a sewered Motherboard with randoms parts on it, its a scam, there is NO MORE discussion to be had, even the Russians figure it out when they see that highly insulting "ASIC hardware" image, you are the only one that is trying to give them any credit, and you are sleeping user that as 90+% of his posts in this tropic!

I gona say it again, stop wasting time, nobody cares what you say, half of the things you say does not make any sence, and the other half nobody belives you.


im not disagreeing or agreeing, they may or may not do that
some do care, you do not represent everybody.
they have given refunds, ands thats what puzzles me. In no way does that benefit them with the current community. scam? i dont know


If you're legit, take shivansps' advice and stay away from this thread. Anything you are doing right now is in favor of the scammers and you will be banned. So take a breather or sth.

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May 13, 2013, 12:21:23 PM
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I really like what ASICMINER did. Avoid all this drama! Work in silence and then get a couple of TH online. Then the feud is over.

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May 13, 2013, 04:35:33 PM
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Anon64g, here's a new entry and I predict just as reliable as Cedartec;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204039.0

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May 13, 2013, 05:32:41 PM
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Anon64g, here's a new entry and I predict just as reliable as Cedartec;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204039.0

It will NEVER pull 48 pages! This thread is in orbit already!

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May 13, 2013, 05:33:39 PM
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Anon64g, here's a new entry and I predict just as reliable as Cedartec;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204039.0

It will NEVER pull 48 pages! This thread is in orbit already!

almost 49.....

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May 13, 2013, 05:34:04 PM
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Anon64g, here's a new entry and I predict just as reliable as Cedartec;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204039.0

It will NEVER pull 48 pages! This thread is in orbit already!

almost 49.....

And 49?

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