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May 09, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
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I hope you did actually leave.

Maybe if you didn't want to be controlled by a boss, you should have started your own business.
As long as you are an employee you will always be controlled by a boss, no matter where you live.

I am in agreement about starting your own business.  Got to be free and stand on our own to have a real chance of ever getting anywhere
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I hope you did actually leave.

Maybe if you didn't want to be controlled by a boss, you should have started your own business.
As long as you are an employee you will always be controlled by a boss, no matter where you live.

I am in agreement about starting your own business.  Got to be free and stand on our own to have a real chance of ever getting anywhere

Hey guys, I just found this thread somehow, and guess what? I did move, and I haven't been back for a year and a half!  Cheesy

I have 3 different writing jobs, clients in different parts of the world, and yeah I make enough to live a decent middle class living here. The benefits are I go to bed and wake up whenever I damn please, can pretty much move around and live anywhere on a whim, and yes I've been with my girlfriend for over a year now.

Things aren't really that bad or scary, though it is unnerving living in a place with armed guards everywhere and military checkpoints. So far nothing bad has happened to me at all! (knock on wood) The worst thing was leaving a pack of cigarettes with 7,000 pesos on an outdoor table once, along with my credit card, when I was fucking really drunk one time. I didn't even notice I had left it until I was almost home. Totally my fault.

My health has only declined a bit because I've gotten fatter from eating all the time, drinking, and then smoking cheap ass cigarettes. But outside of a couple of minor colds, I haven't contracted any illnesses whatsoever.

Sure, the poverty is unnerving and extremely hard to turn a blind eye to, but people are a lot friendlier and easy going than that iamnotback guy kept insisting. To me it sounds like he was (is) just a major asshole, and people treated him as such.

Just FYI, I didn't raise a single bit from my "fundraiser," in case you were wondering... I obviously was targeting the wrong audience  Cheesy only now do I see that in retrospect.

What else... I've lived in 3 different provinces and about 8 different cities so far. Started off in Pangasinan, moved to Pampanga, and now Mindanao. I'm pretty sure iamnotback was banned some time ago, but reading the 20 comments or so he left in this thread after I left it, he sounds like a real bitch. Some of the things he said were true but most of it was just him having a shitty attitude.

A few things I miss for sure about the U.S.:

- cheese! I miss all the different selections of cheese, and milk, like real, actual cold milk... impossible to find.
- steak. too difficult to get a good steak around here
- Taco Bell! and, real mexican food... only to be found in American-owned restaurants in tourist places
- I also miss my Xbox and playing Grand Theft Auto. I know I could buy one here but I move around a lot and don't want to lug it with me everywhere I go.

Any questions for an expat who successfully stuck to the dream of abandoning the U.S.?

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August 11, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
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Try https://internationalliving.com/ and https://www.liveandinvestoverseas.com/.

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August 11, 2019, 12:59:11 PM
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That's a good thing lol. I am actually a poor person here on pH but I also am living my life the hell I want. Traveling was my main priority always considering the fact that I don't have a job currently lol.

What do you think by the way of the current president? Trust me there are a lot of good things that are currently happening in the Philippines government so it might be somehow worth it moving here for awhile.
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August 11, 2019, 01:40:05 PM
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Rather, leave the US for a 1st world country... the State you are residing in. Become a State Citizen rather than a US citizen. http://coppermoonshinestills.com/id71.html

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August 11, 2019, 03:14:11 PM
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And since you've been here for more than a year now, can you say that you are not jumping from the political frying pan into the political fire? LOL!

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August 11, 2019, 07:04:56 PM
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You made the right decision, I am proud of you. You will not be killed in the next war. You still fund war machines, but at least those war machines you fund are in defense of the Philippines, not aggro like the USA.
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August 12, 2019, 07:54:56 AM
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And since you've been here for more than a year now, can you say that you are not jumping from the political frying pan into the political fire? LOL!

Well, Duterte is controversial, no doubt about that. Most people seem to like him and respect what he's trying to accomplish. The only people who don't like him are businessmen from Manila. His job is not an easy one, that's for sure.

I'm thinking about leaving Mindanao later this month for somewhere else. Any suggestions? I'm currently looking at:

- Cebu
- Bohol
- El Nido

I could go back to Manila, but... the traffic there is killer and its a bit too much of a madhouse for me. I really enjoy Angeles and Subic but I've been there, done that.

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August 12, 2019, 08:09:58 AM
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Well, Duterte is controversial, no doubt about that. Most people seem to like him and respect what he's trying to accomplish. The only people who don't like him are businessmen from Manila. His job is not an easy one, that's for sure.

I'm thinking about leaving Mindanao later this month for somewhere else. Any suggestions? I'm currently looking at:

- Cebu
- Bohol
- El Nido

I could go back to Manila, but... the traffic there is killer and its a bit too much of a madhouse for me. I really enjoy Angeles and Subic but I've been there, done that.

I just want to ask you a question. Are you doing a home based job as of now? what kind of environment are you actually looking for. But since you have stated that traffic is completely making you crazy. Cebu is not a very good option for you because as of the moment if  how toxic can the traffic congestion in Manila, you should expect the same thing here in the mainland Cebu.

But if you are going to try considering the better parts of Cebu. You can try checking out Bantayan Island where you can feel a bitch vibe and camotes main island. El nido is also good but I think there is a 3 or 6 months shut down as well for cleaning up their beaches. Lesser traffic as well but I think even you are a foreign, the prices their is somehow closer to Manila prices.


Bohol is good if you love a county vibe and the prices their are pretty good when it comes to a mid class person. Panglao tho, for me is pretty toxic even if the place it self is really good. The prices their are too much for an average Filipino. The locals somehow increases more the prices when they deal with a foreign like you.

Siargao can also be a good place for you. I am not sure about the prices their but this island is pretty good.
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August 12, 2019, 08:49:41 AM
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And since you've been here for more than a year now, can you say that you are not jumping from the political frying pan into the political fire? LOL!

Well, Duterte is controversial, no doubt about that. Most people seem to like him and respect what he's trying to accomplish. The only people who don't like him are businessmen from Manila. His job is not an easy one, that's for sure.

I'm thinking about leaving Mindanao later this month for somewhere else. Any suggestions? I'm currently looking at:

- Cebu
- Bohol
- El Nido

I could go back to Manila, but... the traffic there is killer and its a bit too much of a madhouse for me. I really enjoy Angeles and Subic but I've been there, done that.

Duterte is not your conventional man. He's stirring the pot and the oligarchs in the gateway to hell* which is Manila is reacting. But he can easily command respect. I have been living here in Davao City for more than a decade and I can say that people here are more disciplined than the rest.

All right, let's talk about these three places you've mentioned.

Cebu- Beautiful province with a lot to offer. Avoid the city. It is almost like Manila*. I can recommend canyoneering in Badian, swimming in Bantayan, snorkeling in Moalboal. And if you decide to drop by Malapascua, we might be bumping each other there.  Grin

Bohol- I grew up here. Again, the island has much to offer. Almost every town has a tourist attraction. But of course, the beach is the banner spot. The downside is that it is really expensive there to the point of being overpriced. I don't know if this matters to you though.

El Nido- A beautiful place. Islands and beaches mostly, and some simply nice bars. Avoid the season though. It makes the place overcrowded. Might wanna proceed to Linapacan, i.e., if you want serenity. The islands there will be yours alone.

Cebu and El Nido got my vote. It's a tie. A toss of a coin maybe? Make no mistake, Bohol is really beautiful but I have a little ironic bias as it is my hometown.

And if you're fond of tattoos, the gateway to hell will be the place come Sept. 20-21. It's Dutdutan, the country's tattoo festival.

Siargao can also be a good place for you. I am not sure about the prices their but this island is pretty good.

Thanks, darklus123 for this suggestion.

Nutildah should seriously consider this. A peaceful island, very accommodating resorts and locals, and with other attractions besides the beach. I've been there 3 or 4 years ago. I cannot remember complaining about prices.

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And since you've been here for more than a year now, can you say that you are not jumping from the political frying pan into the political fire? LOL!

Well, Duterte is controversial, no doubt about that. Most people seem to like him and respect what he's trying to accomplish. The only people who don't like him are businessmen from Manila. His job is not an easy one, that's for sure.

I'm thinking about leaving Mindanao later this month for somewhere else. Any suggestions? I'm currently looking at:

- Cebu
- Bohol
- El Nido

I could go back to Manila, but... the traffic there is killer and its a bit too much of a madhouse for me. I really enjoy Angeles and Subic but I've been there, done that.

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August 12, 2019, 02:14:57 PM
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MYTH: America's best days are ahead of us.

FACT: If you're not utterly ashamed to be an American right now, its because you're not paying attention.

MYTH: Thousands of people are following through on their word to emigrate from America if Trump becomes president.

FACT: I am. I was also planning on moving if Hillary became president, because fuck this.

I bought a plane ticket for a 1 month trip to the Philippines to see if I can make it there doing freelance editing, writing and tutoring work on the internet. The cost of living here is ridiculously expensive compared to there, but I think I could live comfortably as my own boss over there. Having been to Luzon once before for a couple weeks, it won't be an overwhelmingly foreign experience for me. It's really not that different from anywhere else, just impoverished, crowded and with desperation. Still, there's far more crackheads out of their mind in my current neighborhood than there are per square mile over there, and far more guns.

After having spent a decade of my life trying to convince white-collar criminals to stop abusing the health insurance system at the expense of the poor and the sickly and being met with opposition at every level, I'm giving up trying to have a "normal," run-of-the-mill life. America is supposed to be better than other countries because of the way we treat people, but we treat our own people like shit -- especially poor people, which are _most_ people (despite America being the richest country on earth). If there were better benefits to agreeing to be part of the beehive collective, perhaps I'd be more inclined to put up with an unfulfilling career working for an un-respectable boss. But the benefits suck and I can no longer be scared into complacency.

My goal is to find an employer in the Philippines that will sponsor my work visa so I can live there with my girlfriend, who is a citizen and currently lives there. She's from an impoverished part of Pangasinan, the kind of place where $200 is life-changing money. I feel like I can make more of a positive difference over there than here, so with any luck I will have moved out of the U.S. by spring.

I'm thinking about creating some sort of fundraiser so people who wanted to move out of the U.S. but can't in reality can donate me money to help pay for my transition. Then I could post updates about my move from the fundraiser page so they could live through me vicariously.

If you like this idea, you can show your support by leaving me a donation at the address in my profile, then I'll know that maybe the general public might do the same and I should start a GoFundMe or something.. Here's my booking confirmation for my ticket to Manila. Thanks for reading this!



You have no idea what you are getting yourself into.  Travelling might be very educational for you.
You will be back in 2-3 years, with your tail between your legs.  Only then you'll know that North America, Europe are the best places to live and raise your family. 

You can find good, safe, cheap places to live right here in the US.  You have not looked hard enough.

BTW, it is not just your girlfriend you'll be supporting, all her extended family and their families will be on your "payroll". LOL.

Go on an extended vacation, for a few months, that is about it.  Never relocate permanently or give up your US citizenship.  That is just plain stupid.

How are you going to support yourself, teaching English?  What is the average net worth of English teachers abroad?

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You have no idea what you are getting yourself into.  Travelling might be very educational for you.
You will be back in 2-3 years, with your tail between your legs.  Only then you'll know that North America, Europe are the best places to live and raise your family. 

You can find good, safe, cheap places to live right here in the US.  You have not looked hard enough.

BTW, it is not just your girlfriend you'll be supporting, all her extended family and their families will be on your "payroll". LOL.

Go on an extended vacation, for a few months, that is about it.  Never relocate permanently or give up your US citizenship.  That is just plain stupid.

How are you going to support yourself, teaching English?  What is the average net worth of English teachers abroad?

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I just want to ask you a question. Are you doing a home based job as of now? what kind of environment are you actually looking for.

Yes, I work from my computer, so all I really need is a decent internet connection. If no WiFi, then there has to be a Smart or Globe signal around. I don't have a car, but I just remember it being such a pain in the ass to even go a couple of miles in Manila. Maybe I'll look for a place a little outside of Cebu.

Cebu- Beautiful province with a lot to offer. Avoid the city. It is almost like Manila*. I can recommend canyoneering in Badian, swimming in Bantayan, snorkeling in Moalboal. And if you decide to drop by Malapascua, we might be bumping each other there.  Grin

I'm really leaning toward Cebu. Its probably safer than Mindanao, so that's a step up. I'll also be more likely to find an American bar or two where I can watch the NFL games as the season is fast approaching. Its a great excuse for drinking in the early afternoon, or morning if one was so inclined.

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August 12, 2019, 04:16:55 PM
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The community voted... Not sure why thats an issue on who won

Also, its a pretty bold statement outlining facts and myths... But I understand that its all perspective

3rd world isnt all what its cracked up to be... but you have to take the blinders off Smiley
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MYTH: America's best days are ahead of us.

FACT: If you're not utterly ashamed to be an American right now, its because you're not paying attention.

MYTH: Thousands of people are following through on their word to emigrate from America if Trump becomes president.

FACT: I am. I was also planning on moving if Hillary became president, because fuck this.

I bought a plane ticket for a 1 month trip to the Philippines to see if I can make it there doing freelance editing, writing and tutoring work on the internet. The cost of living here is ridiculously expensive compared to there, but I think I could live comfortably as my own boss over there. Having been to Luzon once before for a couple weeks, it won't be an overwhelmingly foreign experience for me. It's really not that different from anywhere else, just impoverished, crowded and with desperation. Still, there's far more crackheads out of their mind in my current neighborhood than there are per square mile over there, and far more guns.

After having spent a decade of my life trying to convince white-collar criminals to stop abusing the health insurance system at the expense of the poor and the sickly and being met with opposition at every level, I'm giving up trying to have a "normal," run-of-the-mill life. America is supposed to be better than other countries because of the way we treat people, but we treat our own people like shit -- especially poor people, which are _most_ people (despite America being the richest country on earth). If there were better benefits to agreeing to be part of the beehive collective, perhaps I'd be more inclined to put up with an unfulfilling career working for an un-respectable boss. But the benefits suck and I can no longer be scared into complacency.

My goal is to find an employer in the Philippines that will sponsor my work visa so I can live there with my girlfriend, who is a citizen and currently lives there. She's from an impoverished part of Pangasinan, the kind of place where $200 is life-changing money. I feel like I can make more of a positive difference over there than here, so with any luck I will have moved out of the U.S. by spring.

I'm thinking about creating some sort of fundraiser so people who wanted to move out of the U.S. but can't in reality can donate me money to help pay for my transition. Then I could post updates about my move from the fundraiser page so they could live through me vicariously.

If you like this idea, you can show your support by leaving me a donation at the address in my profile, then I'll know that maybe the general public might do the same and I should start a GoFundMe or something.. Here's my booking confirmation for my ticket to Manila. Thanks for reading this!



it is not going to get better, once trump goes and with him the bankers, usa will fall appart into an urban ghetto society with decayin infrastructure, leftists will be much much worse. usa will become like venezuela.

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August 13, 2019, 01:24:15 AM
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Yes, I work from my computer, so all I really need is a decent internet connection. If no WiFi, then there has to be a Smart or Globe signal around. I don't have a car, but I just remember it being such a pain in the ass to even go a couple of miles in Manila. Maybe I'll look for a place a little outside of Cebu.
There is actually a small island that very closed to cebu mainland. It is called as Lapu Lapu City, thats the place where the Iron Man sports is being held every year. You will also not be having huge issues about your internet connection cause its pretty urbanized place.

The only thing in there is that there are a lot of koreans lol. Probably the best thing you can consider there is that it is where the airport of cebu located. But then again it can be a pain in the ass if you will decide to go for a ride in the mainland.


The last place you can consider in cebu is the place they called Balamban. I've been there only twice even tho that place is not known for good beaches the place is really peaceful. Far from the congisted cebu city traffic. And as far as I know they also have a decent internet connection there
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August 13, 2019, 02:13:57 AM
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Cebu- Beautiful province with a lot to offer. Avoid the city. It is almost like Manila*. I can recommend canyoneering in Badian, swimming in Bantayan, snorkeling in Moalboal. And if you decide to drop by Malapascua, we might be bumping each other there.  Grin

I'm really leaning toward Cebu. Its probably safer than Mindanao, so that's a step up. I'll also be more likely to find an American bar or two where I can watch the NFL games as the season is fast approaching. Its a great excuse for drinking in the early afternoon, or morning if one was so inclined.

Ugh! Who needs an excuse, anyway? Not a digital nomad for sure.  Wink

Here's a tip for a rolling stone like you, if you can't find a nice American sports bar somewhere in your spot in Cebu, Dumaguete City is just a boat away. There's definitely one there.


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Bought my plane tickets for Cebu today!

There is actually a small island that very closed to cebu mainland. It is called as Lapu Lapu City, thats the place where the Iron Man sports is being held every year. You will also not be having huge issues about your internet connection cause its pretty urbanized place.

Mactan, Lapu Lapu looks quite nice, but a bit expensive. It seems there's a lot of Americans around there. Perhaps once I get settled I can find a better deal around there.

The only thing in there is that there are a lot of koreans lol.

Yeah thats OK, I don't mind Koreans so much. There were a lot that lived in Angeles City. At least they add some decent restaurants to the mix, wherever they are. I kind of miss kimchi.



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August 13, 2019, 10:10:18 AM
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I did move, and I haven't been back for a year and a half!  Cheesy
Since you already a year and a half and I think you are still using your working visa right?
I want to ask if now, you can live permanently here in the Philippines without needing some documents to process time to time or need some renewal?

And, where is much strict for staying in some country which you are not a citizen there; like when you are from the Philippines and decided to stay and become a citizen of United States or, you are from the United States and decided to stay and become a citizen of the Philippines?

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