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December 11, 2016, 10:33:29 AM
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It's a pretty serious question , I know they are all (theymos,BadBear & Cyrus) administrators but I suppose only theymos have control on the domain , host and everything else. Same question should apply for Sirius (who I suppose controls Bitcoin.org).
If there are no plans If and when that happens , wouldn't that make us (the bitcoin community) in a bad situation ?

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December 11, 2016, 12:15:21 PM
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if admin can promote themselves to admin, then that won't be a problem.
theymos should have plans to allow others being a new admin to heir this forum, as satoshi banned himself. there are also  several reasons why there are advertisements about alternated bitcoin forums laying on this forum, one of those is what your scenario is.

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December 11, 2016, 01:15:49 PM
Last edit: December 11, 2016, 07:39:40 PM by suspiciously square
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Any global moderator can download an encrypted bitcointalk database backup, and some of them probably regularly do. Any admin, or past admin can decrypt those backups to keep this forum running, or move it to a new domain. If theymos died one of the other admins could keep bitcointalk running. Not that theymos is likely to die soon, his profile says he's 25.

In another thread you said that database dumps can be downloaded by other admins, but only you, Gavin, Satoshi and Sirius can decrypt them.
What does "direct database access" refer to? Any admin can query the db directly and e.g. dump it and/or read PMs?

It's not about ST being an admin now; it's just a general question which popped up in my mind when I read this announcement.

Global moderators can download the encrypted database backups. Admins and past admins (Gavin, Satoshi, Sirius, me, and now justmoon) can decrypt them -- they therefore have complete access to the database and can read PMs, etc. Justmoon and I can also query the live database.

How many admins do we have on bitcointalk now?

Two. Gavin recently decided to stop being an admin.
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December 11, 2016, 01:31:34 PM
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It's a pretty serious question , I know they are all (theymos,BadBear & Cyrus) administrators but I suppose only theymos have control on the domain , host and everything else. Same question should apply for Sirius (who I suppose controls Bitcoin.org).
If there are no plans If and when that happens , wouldn't that make us (the bitcoin community) in a bad situation ?

Depends whats in his will doesn't it? bitcointalk.org is a business.

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December 11, 2016, 02:30:04 PM
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It's a pretty serious question , I know they are all (theymos,BadBear & Cyrus) administrators but I suppose only theymos have control on the domain , host and everything else. Same question should apply for Sirius (who I suppose controls Bitcoin.org).
If there are no plans If and when that happens , wouldn't that make us (the bitcoin community) in a bad situation ?

Depends whats in his will doesn't it? bitcointalk.org is a business.

Yeah pretty much, its not that difficult to transfer ownership of a domain on death.

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December 11, 2016, 02:32:01 PM
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but I suppose only theymos have control on the domain , host and everything else. Same question should apply for Sirius (who I suppose controls Bitcoin.org).
IIRC Sirius also owns bitcointalk.org (the domain), not theymos. That atleast was the case last time this was discussed.
Sirius owns the domain.
(aswell: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455867.msg5069851#msg5069851)



For further information: Who would be main admin if theymos was unable to carry on?

See the section "THE BITCOIN FORUM" here:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=t9h2pL2y
And the list of trustees / community council members here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155002.0

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December 12, 2016, 05:28:54 AM
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Theymos has probably given the admins or even some of the global mods access to the webserver or even the domain, so if anything happens they can re-route the DNS to their own server or just change the user ranks and re-upload from a database. Don't worry. I'm more afraid for the wellbeing of the bitcoin network Smiley

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December 12, 2016, 12:03:34 PM
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If is does then whomever has an ad running is very lucky. They may get months of free advertising. I do hope he doesn't die though. Then the forum might die.  Sad
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December 14, 2016, 02:19:27 AM
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Why is everyone so worried about if Theymos dies?




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December 14, 2016, 04:49:46 AM
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Then we should elect one. Moderators are the best choice for this. They should post a thread here which has a poll which everyone can vote for the moderator to be elected as the admin of this forum. But ofcourse this time there should be a vice which can take over when somethings happen to the admin. Like the op's worrying about.
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December 14, 2016, 04:59:34 AM
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Then we should elect one. Moderators are the best choice for this. They should post a thread here which has a poll which everyone can vote for the moderator to be elected as the admin of this forum. But ofcourse this time there should be a vice which can take over when somethings happen to the admin. Like the op's worrying about.
Sorry to burst you bubble but election is not the answer if any of the admins died and a replacement is needed. Just imagine how many alts are out there who will vote for someone who they think can protect their business and interest. As far as I know, just like how they select a moderator, its through recommendation and members can chime in but its not a vote, they can give feedback regardless if its negative or positive, then the powers that be will select among the short listed.
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December 14, 2016, 06:14:36 PM
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Then we should elect one. Moderators are the best choice for this. They should post a thread here which has a poll which everyone can vote for the moderator to be elected as the admin of this forum. But ofcourse this time there should be a vice which can take over when somethings happen to the admin. Like the op's worrying about.
Sorry to burst you bubble but election is not the answer if any of the admins died and a replacement is needed. Just imagine how many alts are out there who will vote for someone who they think can protect their business and interest.
Simple, only the moderators aka staff members will be able to vote.

As far as I know, just like how they select a moderator, its through recommendation and members can chime in but its not a vote, they can give feedback regardless if its negative or positive, then the powers that be will select among the short listed.

Exactly, theymos doesn't like the vote.
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December 14, 2016, 06:56:46 PM
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There could be someone close to him of course. Or probably the other administrator in this forum. Theymos might be the president but if there is the president then there should be a vice president to full fill the duty of the president when needed. Moderators IMO remains moderators as far as the other admins concern
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December 14, 2016, 07:23:03 PM
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There could be someone close to him of course. Or probably the other administrator in this forum. Theymos might be the president but if there is the president then there should be a vice president to full fill the duty of the president when needed. Moderators IMO remains moderators as far as the other admins concern


This is why he put a second administrator, Cyrus he is a very amazing admin and he will be 1# when theymos will leave.
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December 14, 2016, 07:34:01 PM
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This is why he put a second administrator, Cyrus he is a very amazing admin and he will be 1# when theymos will leave.
There's always been more than one administrator. There's been Sirius, justmoon or BadBear to back up theymos. He still remains the head administrator, though.
Upon resigning, theymos could select anybody to be the new head administrator. A trustee/current administrator however seems a good candidate.

Theymos might be the president but if there is the president then there should be a vice president to full fill the duty of the president when needed.
That would be the trustees.

Simple, only the moderators aka staff members will be able to vote.
Nope, the community council will be.

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December 14, 2016, 07:38:14 PM
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There could be someone close to him of course. Or probably the other administrator in this forum. Theymos might be the president but if there is the president then there should be a vice president to full fill the duty of the president when needed. Moderators IMO remains moderators as far as the other admins concern


This is why he put a second administrator, Cyrus he is a very amazing admin and he will be 1# when theymos will leave.

Absolutely, I wonder why they worry that much and what makes me think is that why would they rather promote a moderator to continue theymos works. I am not saying tho that they are not capable, yet cyrus or the other active admin has the better experience and potential(i assumed that they can handle the technical issues like theymos do)



That would be the trustees.

Yup and it is obviously the other admins

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He could be kidnapoed and tortured to give up the coins. Then either dumped on the side of the road or buried.
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