UFC 208: Holm vs De Randamie Info and Prediction Thread

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Good to see a good fight card,but i thought Aldo will be facing Max Holloway in this card, what happened to that fight as Holloway was teasing Aldo after his intern title. It will be a heavy card if that match was scheduled and now the main card will be a title belt featuring Holly Holmes but i am not sure who De Randamie is and i have not seen her matches to take sides on who will be winning the belt.

Max Holloway is injured and so is the reason he is not featured in this fight card.If you are looking for who Germaine De Randamie is she is a kick boxing champion with an undefeated record and with Cyborg not featuring in this title bout,Germaine De Randamie is a worthy contender to Holly Holmes ,so this match will be a striker vs striker match and its not an easy match for Holly Holmes.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Good to see a new division coming up for the ladies but i am not sure there are any worthy contenders for the 145 division belt other than Cris Cyborg who was recently flagged by USADA and i am sure the UFC is building this division to promote Cyborg because the Ronda Rousey era is over and Cyborg is the real tough fighter who they can promote as she has a huge fan following .Both Holm and Randamie are strikers and it will be an interesting match.

[bbc.reporter]

@Clement Kaliyar. Think of it as something like an expansion of the offerings of the UFC's entertainment products. This will surely get the interest of the bigger and heavier women UFC fans. For the fight I am betting on the underdog. This will be so unpredictable it will not matter who you bet on. I am going for the one with a bigger payout.

[eaLiTy]

@Clement Kaliyar. Think of it as something like an expansion of the offerings of the UFC's entertainment products. This will surely get the interest of the bigger and heavier women UFC fans. For the fight I am betting on the underdog. This will be so unpredictable it will not matter who you bet on. I am going for the one with a bigger payout.

As far as the bookmakers there is no heavy underdog in this fight as both are pretty good strikers .Germaine de Randamie who is an experienced kick boxer while Holly Holmes is a boxer and a kick boxer both are 135 pound fighter i guess elevated to 145 pound to build this division so clearly no one has the advantage over another.

[bbc.reporter]

@eaLiTy. Whatever the odds I will bet for the one that will pay out more. Maybe the reason why the sportsbooks opened the betting with odds close to 50-50 is because they might be thinking that the fight is unpredictable. I will expect the odds to change as we get closer to the day of the fight. Who do you think the underdog will be?

[tokeweed]

Guess who has been training with Anderson Silva in preparation of the latter's fight for UFC 208?  It's none other than Jacare Souza!  I think Jacare should be given a chance for the MW title.  He's not getting any younger and at least give him his shot.  I'm pretty sure he can take Bisping, Luke Rockhold and Yoel Romero.  Sometimes I think the UFC avoids giving some fighters a title shot because they're not marketable enough.

Anderson Silva Trains With 'Jacare' Souza Ahead of UFC 208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhegJHOH9gY

[krach]

Quick Leans
De Randamie - No reason for her being the underdog, she is as good or a better striker to Holm. Im on Randamie for sure, Holm does well against people with lesser striking than her, not the other way around.

Lewis over Travis Browne -What is up with Travis, I think he may have changed camps this time, is that enough to get the old Travis back with crazy footwork? He is going to need it vs Lewis and Browne has a questionable chin. Leaning Lewis.

Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier - Glover please retire for your health

Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique - Doesnt go the distance


These are just quick leans, not offical picks ill come back later with picks.

[Pattberry]

Quick Leans
De Randamie - No reason for her being the underdog, she is as good or a better striker to Holm. Im on Randamie for sure, Holm does well against people with lesser striking than her, not the other way around.
Lewis over Travis Browne -What is up with Travis, I think he may have changed camps this time, is that enough to get the old Travis back with crazy footwork? He is going to need it vs Lewis and Browne has a questionable chin. Leaning Lewis.
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier - Glover please retire for your health
Marcin Tybura vs. Luis Henrique - Doesnt go the distance

De Randamie and Holly Holmes is a tough fight to choose but i think Homes can win this one and be the 145 pound champion.
Travis Browne has switched camps and it is a good progress from his side,from a future title holder when he set foot inside the octagon his performance has gone down with the coaching of Edmond Tarverdyan 
Glover Teixeira is a good fighter he just fought the best in the division and he will be back for sure.

[Dmitry.Vastov]

I've never see de Randamie fight. But she seems really strong. Holms is good at distance fighting. She should keep it that way. Maybe she can win this fight. But i will bet for de Randamie this time. My other bets are:

Travis Browne vs. Derrick Lewis (Heavyweight)   --> Lewis
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier (Light Heavyweight)   --> Cannonier
Dustin Poirier vs. Jim Miller (Lightweight) --> Poirier
Ryan LaFlare vs. Roan Carneiro (Welterweight)      --> Can euro
Paul Felder vs. Gilbert Burns (Lightweight)      --> Felder

[HaXX0R1337]

I've never see de Randamie fight. But she seems really strong. Holms is good at distance fighting. She should keep it that way. Maybe she can win this fight. But i will bet for de Randamie this time. My other bets are:

Travis Browne vs. Derrick Lewis (Heavyweight)   --> Lewis
Glover Teixeira   vs. Jared Cannonier (Light Heavyweight)   --> Cannonier
Dustin Poirier vs. Jim Miller (Lightweight) --> Poirier
Ryan LaFlare vs. Roan Carneiro (Welterweight)      --> Can euro
Paul Felder vs. Gilbert Burns (Lightweight)      --> Felder

Travis Browne has left his old camp and i would think that he needs to start focusing on bringing back his old fight techniques in order to win matches against elite level fighters,The black beast Lewis is a tough fighter but he has endurance issues and never posed a challenge to top fighters. Glover Teixeira will win the match as i am not sure who Jared is and have never seen him fight.

[bbc.reporter]

@HaXX0R1337. Travis Browne is not a top 3 fighter judging from his fight history. He can jump from camp to camp to make himself a better fighter but that will do him no good in the UFC. The skill level is very high in MMA these days and all he can hope for is to become a gate keeper in the heavy weight division or maybe can get lucky like Michael Bisping.

[Kemarit]

@HaXX0R1337. Travis Browne is not a top 3 fighter judging from his fight history. He can jump from camp to camp to make himself a better fighter but that will do him no good in the UFC. The skill level is very high in MMA these days and all he can hope for is to become a gate keeper in the heavy weight division or maybe can get lucky like Michael Bisping.

IMHO, Travis Browne can be a legit heavyweight contender still. His problem is more of a mental thing.  I still remember his KO's win over Barnett, Gonzaga and Overeem, wicked elbows!!!. I hope he can still recover his old form and win against Lewis so that he can still prove that he still has some in his tank and a win would obviously put his name in the title contention for the HW title in the future.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

@HaXX0R1337. Travis Browne is not a top 3 fighter judging from his fight history. He can jump from camp to camp to make himself a better fighter but that will do him no good in the UFC. The skill level is very high in MMA these days and all he can hope for is to become a gate keeper in the heavy weight division or maybe can get lucky like Michael Bisping.

IMHO, Travis Browne can be a legit heavyweight contender still. His problem is more of a mental thing.  I still remember his KO's win over Barnett, Gonzaga and Overeem, wicked elbows!!!. I hope he can still recover his old form and win against Lewis so that he can still prove that he still has some in his tank and a win would obviously put his name in the title contention for the HW title in the future.

Travis Browne was considered the best upcoming heavyweight when he came to the UFC and he was a legit contender for the belt while he was training under Jackson's and was undefeated in his first 13 fights and was knocking out people and then his performance slid .He lost his movement and aggression he had in the beginning may be it is a mental thing or may be he had bad coaching restricting his performance  .

[bbc.reporter]

Or maybe because he is always tired in training because his girlfriend is Ronda Rousey. ;-D

I disagree that he will get his old ferocity in the octagon back. He is 34 years old and the competition and skill in all of MMA is getting higher and higher. Soon the young fighters who have more motivation, skill and who are hungrier will take over. Theold  fighters like Travis Browne will only play the role of gate keeper in the sport.

[eaLiTy]

Guess who has been training with Anderson Silva in preparation of the latter's fight for UFC 208?  It's none other than Jacare Souza!  I think Jacare should be given a chance for the MW title.  He's not getting any younger and at least give him his shot.  I'm pretty sure he can take Bisping, Luke Rockhold and Yoel Romero.  Sometimes I think the UFC avoids giving some fighters a title shot because they're not marketable enough.

The UFC always avoids giving fighters a title shot if they are not marketable ,look at the case of Demian Maia he is being over looked for a very long time and he is a legit contender and certainly age is not in his side but in the case of Jacare Souza Yoel Romero defeated him in a very close fight and both the fighters are in their late 30s and they both deserve the title shot long back and so is the case with Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson and so does Max Hollaway.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

@bbc reported may be that is the real case as Travis Browne followed Ronda Rousey to her coach and both the fighters are doomed ,heard that there used to make Ronda's sparring partners sign a non disclosure to avoid spreading the truth to the public and they were building Rousey as a legit super star  her coach even said she will be a world champion boxer if she wants to as she is already knocking out world champion boxers during sparring and will even beat Floyd Mayweather  . Right now Travis Browne is a gate keeper for talented fighters but if you look at the heavy weights every one is above 34 and most have won titles after that and so he can make a come back if he is under the right coaches because i still remember a couple of years back he was a legit treat in the UFC who was knocking people out with elbows and front kicks.

[tokeweed]

Hey guys.  Check the new OP.  All info available for this event should be all there now.  

I can't believe Anderson Silva is the underdog here vs Derek Brunson.  I think the latter is a journeyman and is not top 5 material.  And I don't think Silva will allow himself to lose vs Brunson even though Silva may be thinking he has no shot in the title anymore.  But who knows what's going on in that head of his.  Maybe he'll go for the oldest champ in the UFC...  

[beerlover]

Hey guys.  Check the new OP.  All info available for this event should be all there now.  

I can't believe Anderson Silva is the underdog here vs Derek Brunson.  I think the latter is a journeyman and is not top 5 material.  And I don't think Silva will allow himself to lose vs Brunson even though Silva may be thinking he has no shot in the title anymore.  But who knows what's going on in that head of his.  Maybe he'll go for the oldest champ in the UFC...  

I still can’t believe we are that old now I remember the times Silva was the man and he was the greatest fighter we saw with his matrix like moving around and iritating his opponents and all. One day he got old and when he was moving around BAM!

One punch and he was gone, never been the same. He was the guy who showed the World you do not need to be strong and punch your way into winning, he fought smart. I hope he gets this one and shows the World he can make a big comeback and win it again too.

[DeathAngel]

De Randamie vs Holly Holm - I think Holm will win this one but it won't be easy
Anderson Silva vs Derek Brunson - Silva to KO this bitch

[krach]

Quick Leans:
Holly Holm (10-2) vs. Germaine de Randamie (6-3) (Women's Featherweight Championship)
Germanie, she is a better and more aggressive striker imo, I hope more people bet on holm and the line moves.

Anderson Silva (33-8) vs. Derek Brunson (16-4) (Middleweight)
Skip, Idk wtf is going to happen here
Ronaldo Souza (23-4) vs. Tim Boetsch (20-10) (Middleweight)
Souza via desruction, have to look for a prop maybe Souza in the distance
Glover Teixeira (25-5) vs. Jared Cannonier (9-1) (Light Heavyweight)
Glover please retire, I dont want to see you with brain damage. Skip for now
Dustin Poirier (20-5) vs. Jim Miller (28-8) (Lightweight)
Why is Miller such a dog here? Im considering a bet on Miller, going to watch some more tape.

So far the only one I would bet on is Germanie