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February 12, 2017, 12:29:39 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet.

Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy...

If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality.

Yes, Holy Bible speak of 10 Commandments and that is root of morality in religion. But can you tell me for certain that morality comes from 10 Commandments and Holy Bible. Nop i think that morality comes from person no matter which religion he is. You have Buddhism and they have morality too, but they dont have 10 Commandments or Holy Bible... I approve religion for trying to show people good way, if they cant find it on there own. But i dont approve when someone force other to believe in something they dont want. God bless free will XD !
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February 12, 2017, 12:32:20 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet.

Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy...

If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality.
Name me one person who keeps all the 10 commandments. There is no such. Additionally, good intentions pave the road to hell. Religion under the guise of morality making a black case and it is not uncommon! Religion is a lie.

I can name a few: Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Mother Theresa etc. Smiley
If you can't keep 10 commandments, it doesn't mean that such commandments are unrealistic and out of reach for us.
In fact, 10 commandments are root of today's morality and law in our societies.
Religion talks about fundamental issue like origin of the universe, root of sin, salvation, absolute moral standards etc.
Philosophers and scientists have thousands of ideas on these issues but no so much concrete answers, which they can prove as true.
So, I still prefer religious truth as unchanging and absolute.
Human truth is changeable and relative and it's fact.
 

You do not speak the truth. You know personally these people talking about? No, you told me. And how can you believe those who tells you something? Why then do you not believe in tcm who says that there is no God?
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February 12, 2017, 12:47:30 PM
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Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
Correct. The hardest part here is explaining someone who doesn't want to know your belief at all or don't mind it anyway.
That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief.
We respect them of course as long as they respect ours.
I don't believe in the existence of life after death. There is no evidence of the existence of the afterlife. Psychics who say that know how to talk with spirits they really are just crooks. I do not believe them!
Thats Your opinion and your opinion also has no evidence because no one has ever prroved if there is a life or their is nothing after death ! but for me I believe it has ! when we die where are going to the place we are destined to be and that is the Creator of the heaven and earth , the Creator of all the existence you've seen during your lifetime ! because nothing ever existed if there nothing created it ? and that is the true evidence !
Yes even if he believes it or not, we don't know all if what we believe is true or not it is just a matter or conviction and rely on what has written in the bible. If you don't believe in life after death maybe you know that there is hell? Right? If you don't believe? then, it is your problem anyway.
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February 12, 2017, 12:53:43 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet.

Did you guys know that The Holy Bible is is 80% cases reason why people decided to become atheists? There are many ways that Bible can be understood, and people often tend to understand it wrong. Too many people have dont some terrible things because of Bible, so live that book aside. Live life by moral rules, and everyone will be happy...

If you like this or not, the Holy Bible is at the root of our conception of what is good and what is not. The 10 Commandments are at the root of the morality.
Name me one person who keeps all the 10 commandments. There is no such. Additionally, good intentions pave the road to hell. Religion under the guise of morality making a black case and it is not uncommon! Religion is a lie.

I can name a few: Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Mother Theresa etc. Smiley
If you can't keep 10 commandments, it doesn't mean that such commandments are unrealistic and out of reach for us.
In fact, 10 commandments are root of today's morality and law in our societies.
Religion talks about fundamental issue like origin of the universe, root of sin, salvation, absolute moral standards etc.
Philosophers and scientists have thousands of ideas on these issues but no so much concrete answers, which they can prove as true.
So, I still prefer religious truth as unchanging and absolute.
Human truth is changeable and relative and it's fact.

Exactly my friend. This makes me laugh when people say "But we are not in the XVIIIth Century !", assuming that things that were true at this era were not today. The fundamental value of Truth is that it does not change, as religion.

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February 12, 2017, 12:54:45 PM
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Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
Correct. The hardest part here is explaining someone who doesn't want to know your belief at all or don't mind it anyway.
That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief.
We respect them of course as long as they respect ours.
I don't believe in the existence of life after death. There is no evidence of the existence of the afterlife. Psychics who say that know how to talk with spirits they really are just crooks. I do not believe them!
Thats Your opinion and your opinion also has no evidence because no one has ever prroved if there is a life or their is nothing after death ! but for me I believe it has ! when we die where are going to the place we are destined to be and that is the Creator of the heaven and earth , the Creator of all the existence you've seen during your lifetime ! because nothing ever existed if there nothing created it ? and that is the true evidence !
Yes even if he believes it or not, we don't know all if what we believe is true or not it is just a matter or conviction and rely on what has written in the bible. If you don't believe in life after death maybe you know that there is hell? Right? If you don't believe? then, it is your problem anyway.
This is not a problem. In my understanding, people who believe in an afterlife is people are more stupid than animals. I have a dog and to teach some sort of team she needs to show the sausage. One does not need to show, for training it is enough to tell.
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February 13, 2017, 03:33:56 PM
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No one knows life after death. There are only arguments in the middle. But the idea that life after death is not yet proven.
But we know what will happen when the creatures die. Our body will start to rot. And the living creatures in the earth will eat our bodies.

Then we will only have bones.
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February 13, 2017, 03:38:35 PM
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No one knows life after death. There are only arguments in the middle. But the idea that life after death is not yet proven.
But we know what will happen when the creatures die. Our body will start to rot. And the living creatures in the earth will eat our bodies.

Then we will only have bones.

Well I guess you didn't quite understand what I've meant in this topic. I've asked on opinions, thoughts on what happens with us after death but not in the means of rotting away even tho that's the thing we're only sure of but the soul/consciousness and whatnot aspect. How you do yourself see the period after ones death?

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February 13, 2017, 03:41:16 PM
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Why do you guys have to turn everything about a religion? This was intended to be more of a philosophical question than a clashing of religions and atheists. I'll need to edit the original post so you don't start flame wars again.

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February 13, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
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No one knows life after death. There are only arguments in the middle. But the idea that life after death is not yet proven.
But we know what will happen when the creatures die. Our body will start to rot. And the living creatures in the earth will eat our bodies.

Then we will only have bones.
I agree with you. How modern people can believe in what he believed primitive people? For me it is nonsense!. There is nothing after death. Live and enjoy life now. A second chance you will not.
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February 13, 2017, 10:10:26 PM
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Why do you guys have to turn everything about a religion? This was intended to be more of a philosophical question than a clashing of religions and atheists. I'll need to edit the original post so you don't start flame wars again.

So, you like the religion of philosophy.    Cool

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February 13, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
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Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
Correct. The hardest part here is explaining someone who doesn't want to know your belief at all or don't mind it anyway.
That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief.
We respect them of course as long as they respect ours.
I don't believe in the existence of life after death. There is no evidence of the existence of the afterlife. Psychics who say that know how to talk with spirits they really are just crooks. I do not believe them!
Thats Your opinion and your opinion also has no evidence because no one has ever prroved if there is a life or their is nothing after death ! but for me I believe it has ! when we die where are going to the place we are destined to be and that is the Creator of the heaven and earth , the Creator of all the existence you've seen during your lifetime ! because nothing ever existed if there nothing created it ? and that is the true evidence !
Yes even if he believes it or not, we don't know all if what we believe is true or not it is just a matter or conviction and rely on what has written in the bible. If you don't believe in life after death maybe you know that there is hell? Right? If you don't believe? then, it is your problem anyway.
This is not a problem. In my understanding, people who believe in an afterlife is people are more stupid than animals. I have a dog and to teach some sort of team she needs to show the sausage. One does not need to show, for training it is enough to tell.

On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

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February 14, 2017, 07:45:37 AM
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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death.
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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death.

But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well.

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February 15, 2017, 08:41:19 AM
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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death.

But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well.

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Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words.

Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are.

I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more.
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February 15, 2017, 01:17:52 PM
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Well I like to think that we would just be born again or reincarnate,
I have watch a documentary about it and some kid's have said that they know something about their past life.

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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death.

But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well.

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Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words.

Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are.

I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more.

Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science.

Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail.

But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now.

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February 15, 2017, 01:34:54 PM
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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

Cool

On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death.

But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well.

Cool

Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words.

Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are.

I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more.

Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science.

Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail.

But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now.

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Are you saying that I was already funny. Give me one proof that God created all of science. On the contrary there is no science which would not deny the existence of God. Your statements are contrary to common sense.
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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

Cool

On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death.

But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well.

Cool

Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words.

Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are.

I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more.

Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science.

Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail.

But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now.

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Are you saying that I was already funny. Give me one proof that God created all of science. On the contrary there is no science which would not deny the existence of God. Your statements are contrary to common sense.

I don't know if you are funny or not. Why did you bring it up?

In the links above in this post, the proof that God created all things is available. All things includes science.

So far, we only have science theory that attempts to deny the existence of God. Such theory will never become science fact. Believing it to be science fact because of a consensus among scientists doesn't make it fact.

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On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that is there to be known, you do NOT know that there is no life after death.

Cool

On the other hand, since you know very little of everything that there is to be known, you do NOT know that there is life after death.

But I know more than you, since I know that God exists, while you don't accept the proof:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

God says that there is life after death. Just as life as it exists now is essentially impossible, even so the impossible life after death will exist, as well.

Cool

Your links are not proof. They are links to your own words.

Claiming YOUR words as proof shows how delusional you are.

I suggest you accept your fate that when you die you will be dead.... nothing more.

Since my words show the proof that God exists, they are simply a guide for those who want to prove God to themselves. Go out and research what I say. God is proven by science and nature. Then, turn to find God Who you so fervently deny, even to the point of denying science.

Since God made all science, attempting to use science to disprove God has only failed in the past, and will only fail in the future. The past failure of science to disprove God is what is making some scientists turn to fables of science theory. Science theory is the fiction that they are often using to attempt to disprove God. They will fail.

But you, stats. You simply blab against God without anything to back up what you say. Why not acknowledge the fact of God in your life? Why not acknowledge reality? You will only wind up destroying yourself if you continue this way. Turn to God. He is willing to accept you... for now.

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I don't need to repeat myself to prove that your God is a false lie.

If people want to see the truth.... read the christian bible. It is full of false tales and contradictory commands.

Anyone who reads the book with an open mind can see for themselves.

You choose to see scientific results and "assume" they lead to an answer of your God. You twist the truth and speculate. That my little chuckle buddy is not science but delusions.
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February 15, 2017, 04:08:02 PM
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There is nothing after death. I am sure that there is no God. Stories about God moving in order to have control over people. I do not understand how people nowadays are willing to become the slaves even of God does not exist.
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