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December 22, 2016, 05:07:14 PM
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Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.

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December 22, 2016, 08:09:01 PM
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Yes in the US bought guns as easily as buying beans, very easy. Which makes the free purchase guns in the US because it aims for citizens to protect themselves. Actually, US has regulations governing guns ownership. Those who had a criminal record, bad behavior, drug addicts, mental disorders or perpetrators of domestic violence in the US law is not allowed to have guns. Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.
What's the difference what to buy? Why not buy weapons on the Internet? We immediately see that you are from a country where the government is afraid to trust citizens with weapons. Even if you bought weapons on the Internet, you will deliver it only after checking your data and personally.
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December 23, 2016, 01:23:13 PM
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Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.
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December 23, 2016, 03:58:15 PM
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Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.
Most likely it is not a problem of method of sale of weapons. This is the problem of efficiency check of applicants for the purchase of weapons. Man lives in society, and you can always find out if he has mental problems. It is difficult to hide.
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December 23, 2016, 04:18:01 PM
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If your buying guns you should have to pass a mental sanity test as well. Some people never commit crimes until they go out and decide to massacre a movie theater full of people.

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December 23, 2016, 04:25:42 PM
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As a non-American it also baffles me. Was really surprised when I read it's available in places like Walmart. I understand that it stems from their frontier culture and that gun ownership is a crime deterrent but as we've seen from numerous school shootings, something has to be changed to make it safe for everyone.


In some countries the laws are so stupid, you can't even shoot an unarmed attacker in your home. Somebody jumps your fence, smashes the window, gets inside and starts going through your stuff, you wake up, grab a pistol you have a permit for and shoot, you go to jail. Crazy, right?

Hi, I'm Dutch. When someone robs my house I am supposed to calmly sit down, request the burglar to stop being so mean and call police. If I hurt the burglar in any way I am guilty for assault. Welcome to the "free" west.

I hear that burglars often hurt themselves robbing houses.  Probably because they don't know where things are.  They trip and fall.  They open a closet and things fall on their heads.  It is so sad.

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And then they sue you for damages. I read about a burglar who tried to jump over a spiked fence and ended up impaling himself. He sued the owner for not making the fence safe enough. Apparently the spikes have to be placed high enough so they're unreachable from the ground or something  Undecided





I can't remember if I laughed or facepalmed when I saw that in the news but certainly I exclaimed "Only in the West". This is as ridiculous as an Italian court deciding that stealing is not a crime provided you have the right reason.

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December 23, 2016, 04:30:33 PM
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Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.

There are always loopholes in the existing regulations. But banning the sale of fire-arms and ammunition is not the solution. If such a measure is implemented, then people will resort to street gangs for the purchase of guns.

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December 23, 2016, 04:33:21 PM
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If your buying guns you should have to pass a mental sanity test as well. Some people never commit crimes until they go out and decide to massacre a movie theater full of people.


You simplify everything. Of course every criminal commits ever the crime for the first time. Only it does not mean that it is impossible to determine its inclination in advance. It lives where it works. You can't see a problem with the head? Work special services should be well and not to invent excuses.
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December 23, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
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It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  Grin
Is this serious i think those people had liciense to curry out gun black man always curry a gun for there self defence because some of them had enemy i guess that's why im very thankful that here in my country gun is banned and they will arrest you if they caught you having it.

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December 23, 2016, 08:38:28 PM
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It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  Grin
Is this serious i think those people had liciense to curry out gun black man always curry a gun for there self defence because some of them had enemy i guess that's why im very thankful that here in my country gun is banned and they will arrest you if they caught you having it.
Never the threat of arrest for illegal possession of weapons didn't stop people from wanting to own a gun. In my country, everyone who goes through the streets with a gun carries a statement to the police that she found a gun and wants to call the police.
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December 24, 2016, 06:50:00 AM
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Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Yes you're right and before I also have to say the same thing. But I think purchasing regulations gun are still not enough. On 2012, in Colorado there was a young man who did the shooting at a movie theater, the incident killed 12 people and wounded 70 others. According to police reports, the shooter, James Eagan Holmes, bought more than 6,000 munitions on the internet and AR-15 assault rifle from a local gun shop. It proves there are still gaps to make purchases freely.

There are always loopholes in the existing regulations. But banning the sale of fire-arms and ammunition is not the solution. If such a measure is implemented, then people will resort to street gangs for the purchase of guns.
Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.
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December 24, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
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Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.

The argument is that the burglars will get the guns anyway, from the gangsters and smugglers. So if the shop owners are not allowed to have guns, then they will be just sitting ducks. Even the cops are now afraid to confront the criminals. The Black lives matter, and other organizations have campaigned against the cops so much that now they are mostly ignoring the violent crimes.

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December 24, 2016, 06:41:06 PM
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Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.

The argument is that the burglars will get the guns anyway, from the gangsters and smugglers. So if the shop owners are not allowed to have guns, then they will be just sitting ducks. Even the cops are now afraid to confront the criminals. The Black lives matter, and other organizations have campaigned against the cops so much that now they are mostly ignoring the violent crimes.
The offender will never go on the offense if he was aware that behind him, can always see several people with weapons. And the victim can use weapons for their self defense.
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December 25, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
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Yes you are right there is always a loophole in a regulation. In truth, the crime rate some areas in US is quite high so citizens are allowed to own guns, especially at stores that are prone to theft. Perhaps with the goal of keeping its citizens more secure that I think good of origin is not abused, but it would be better to slightly tightened.

The argument is that the burglars will get the guns anyway, from the gangsters and smugglers. So if the shop owners are not allowed to have guns, then they will be just sitting ducks. Even the cops are now afraid to confront the criminals. The Black lives matter, and other organizations have campaigned against the cops so much that now they are mostly ignoring the violent crimes.
The offender will never go on the offense if he was aware that behind him, can always see several people with weapons. And the victim can use weapons for their self defense.
Yes indeed granting freedom of citizens to own a gun has positive and negative sides. The positive can be used for self defense, but the negative is very patient to be abused. The rules should be tightened in US so that such cases of abuse of gun previous can be avoided. And the police should increase the security of the citizens to have feel safe. Indeed, in US gangster is very large and a lot, I've seen a video that shows a shopkeeper was attacked a few gangsters and defended themselves with guns that he put in a drawer near him.
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December 25, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
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It's so hard to get gun in other developed countries. People even afraid to carry gun in there. But why government of US makes it easy to buy,carry or sell guns? Is it good for the nation or people living there? They mayn't get freedom while walking in dreary places. Isn't it? I even scared of word gun.  Grin
US is one of our supplier of guns they can easily delivered gun in our country but our president don't want them do delivered guns anymore his oredering not to claim any of there guns even its cheaper if they can easily get gun in us then anyone can get that gun and then can easily kill people too.
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December 25, 2016, 10:41:48 AM
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¨Why truck is easily available in EU?¨

Now see why? Because by banning guns you are punishing owners before they even do anything wrong with them.
You don't punish a guy for buying a car, you punish him after he is responsible for an accident when driving drunk for example.
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December 25, 2016, 02:39:19 PM
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¨Why truck is easily available in EU?¨

Now see why? Because by banning guns you are punishing owners before they even do anything wrong with them.
You don't punish a guy for buying a car, you punish him after he is responsible for an accident when driving drunk for example.

Already the EU legislators are considering a ban on "dangerous appliances" such as screwdrivers and hammers. Next, they will be banning the shaving scissors and razors. These measures are not going to help. If they want to prevent the terrorist incidents, then they should secure the borders first.

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December 25, 2016, 03:13:02 PM
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Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Depends on where you live. In Pennsylvania, it is extremely easy. There are very few limitations on getting a gun or a permit to carry one.


     
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December 25, 2016, 03:51:34 PM
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¨Why truck is easily available in EU?¨

Now see why? Because by banning guns you are punishing owners before they even do anything wrong with them.
You don't punish a guy for buying a car, you punish him after he is responsible for an accident when driving drunk for example.

Already the EU legislators are considering a ban on "dangerous appliances" such as screwdrivers and hammers. Next, they will be banning the shaving scissors and razors. These measures are not going to help. If they want to prevent the terrorist incidents, then they should secure the borders first.

I say, build complex robots, that are safe from becoming rogue AI. These robots would have to be able to do literally everything that people can do, and more.

Then place literally 100% of the people into strait-jackets, and let the robots do everything for them... even feed them and wipe their bottoms.

Women could be fertilized artificially, and kids would be placed into strait-jackets at birth. Nobody would be able to harm anyone else this way.

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December 25, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
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Even in the US can buy guns over the internet.

Online gun purchases in the United States are very strictly monitored and regulated. It is not like any buffoon can order an AK-47 online. You need to authenticate your identity, and you need to prove that you don't have any criminal record.
Depends on where you live. In Pennsylvania, it is extremely easy. There are very few limitations on getting a gun or a permit to carry one.

Here are some of the regulations in Pennsylvania regarding gun ownership.

1. All handgun buyers in the state must undergo a PICS check at the point of sale.
2. License to Carry Firearms issued on a "shall-issue" basis.
3. Open-carry prohibited in the city of Philadelphia.
4. All private party transfers of handguns must be processed through a licensed dealer

As you can see, enough regulations are in place to prevent abuse of gun ownership.

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