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Author Topic: Gateless Gate Sharp 1.1.4: zawawa's open-source dual ETH/XMR/PASC/LBC miner  (Read 163305 times)
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April 02, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
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Look like im getting 28.8 vs 29.9 on claymore. Not sure if its running your ASM version though.

The ASM version is only for Ellesmere for now. I will prepare binaries for other cards shortly.

Yea I have Ellsemere cards but its loading the normal .bin kernels. I did remove the pre-built .bin and built new kernal binaries using ethash-new.cl in /binary-kernal by moving it to /kernal and that bumped up the speed to 29.2, but still a bit short from claymore.
For me it's quite the opposite...using 2 threads gains additional +0.3/0.4 but too many hw errors.
As you can see in the picture 29.42(1 thread) does gg vs 29.8 on claymore vs 30 (2 threads gg).
EDIT: Did some timings mods and now hw errors are acceptable ~1/2 every minute.


Your running 4.10 kernel...im on the stock 4.4. I think thats where the difference is from.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B72yKpOokCMcVnV5LWNMS2ltYmM
I've uploaded some of my kernels. 4.10/4.11 are tested and working fine.
Just remember to update only opencl packages from amdgpu-pro 16.60.
Ditto about the asm ...


Took a rig from 4.04 w/ 16.40 to 4.11 w/ 16.60, no speed difference when it comes to claymore (29.5 hynix and 30+ samsung on rx470 4g).

Will test gg next.


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April 03, 2017, 05:19:10 AM
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Look like im getting 28.8 vs 29.9 on claymore. Not sure if its running your ASM version though.

The ASM version is only for Ellesmere for now. I will prepare binaries for other cards shortly.

Yea I have Ellsemere cards but its loading the normal .bin kernels. I did remove the pre-built .bin and built new kernal binaries using ethash-new.cl in /binary-kernal by moving it to /kernal and that bumped up the speed to 29.2, but still a bit short from claymore.
For me it's quite the opposite...using 2 threads gains additional +0.3/0.4 but too many hw errors.
As you can see in the picture 29.42(1 thread) does gg vs 29.8 on claymore vs 30 (2 threads gg).
EDIT: Did some timings mods and now hw errors are acceptable ~1/2 every minute.


Your running 4.10 kernel...im on the stock 4.4. I think thats where the difference is from.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B72yKpOokCMcVnV5LWNMS2ltYmM
I've uploaded some of my kernels. 4.10/4.11 are tested and working fine.
Just remember to update only opencl packages from amdgpu-pro 16.60.
Ditto about the asm ...


Took a rig from 4.04 w/ 16.40 to 4.11 w/ 16.60, no speed difference when it comes to claymore (29.5 hynix and 30+ samsung on rx470 4g).

Will test gg next.


My samgung cards get 0.5Mh better on claymore 8.1, but on GG eth I have 6 hynix cards that outperform them.

GG eth rates from 18 cards after a few hours.

Samsung (1140/2090)
28.54
28.53
28.58
28.57

Hynix (1140/2040)
27.80
28.01
28.03
28.05
28.07
28.20
28.21
28.35
28.56
28.57
28.60
28.63
28.63
28.65

One of the rigs has 4.11 kernel now.  I dont see any noticeable difference in hash rates running 4.11 kernel. 

One of the rigs I have a kill-a-watt, and Claymore used 30w less power.

My conclusion... Claymore gets 3-5% better hash rate and uses 3% less power.

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April 03, 2017, 05:56:45 AM
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I have noticed that claymore has better hashrate on linux than windows regarding 470s and viseversa for 480s...funny... Gigabyte RX 470 4GB G1 Gaming with hynix memory is doing 30 on linux and 29.3 on windows, while same gigabyte but 480 does 30.8 on windows and 30 on linux.

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April 03, 2017, 06:07:47 AM
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It's true that GG's Ethash kernel performs better on Windows.
I just started with optimizations anyway.

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April 03, 2017, 06:14:24 AM
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It's true that GG's Ethash kernel performs better on Windows.
I just started with optimizations anyway.

So, respectfully, what ever happened to Zcash? We still don't have a first-rate open source miner. All these other algos already have decent open source miners available to them. Just sayin'. Smiley
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April 03, 2017, 06:35:32 AM
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It's true that GG's Ethash kernel performs better on Windows.
I just started with optimizations anyway.

So, respectfully, what ever happened to Zcash? We still don't have a first-rate open source miner. All these other algos already have decent open source miners available to them. Just sayin'. Smiley


Oh, I haven'y given up on that yet.
You have to understand, though, that the competition for Zcash miners is much more intense than those for other miners, and my resources are quite limited. It seems to me that people assume that first-class open-source miners just automagically happen, but that's simply not the case.

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April 03, 2017, 11:28:45 AM
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At any rate, I will have to rethink the financial aspects of open-source miner development.
Sadly, I was making much more money when I was developing private kernels just for myself.

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April 03, 2017, 11:45:05 AM
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At any rate, I will have to rethink the financial aspects of open-source miner development.
Sadly, I was making much more money when I was developing private kernels just for myself.

Claymore is making more than $50 000 a month... And you seem to be working for nothing.
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April 03, 2017, 12:09:12 PM
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At any rate, I will have to rethink the financial aspects of open-source miner development.
Sadly, I was making much more money when I was developing private kernels just for myself.

Claymore is making more than $50 000 a month... And you seem to be working for nothing.

Is that what he's making? No wonder...
I'm doing pretty well competing against him, then.  Cool

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April 03, 2017, 12:16:40 PM
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This could be a matter of tweaking, but the new GG ASM kernels reported similar performance locally as Claymore, but at the pool the performance was not as good. Higher rate of stale shares as well. (I also realize are other factors that could have lead to this). I'm talking in terms of 24 hr averages. Lower power consumption than Claymore though, which is nice.

This was on pre4 with the initial ASM stuff dropped in on windows 10. I will test out the pre5 release this week sometime.
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April 03, 2017, 12:33:05 PM
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So I had a chance to ask an AMD engineer questions about the Global Data Share:

http://gpuopen.com/using-sub-dword-addressing-on-amd-gpus-with-rocm/

If he could answer my questions, GG' Equihash kernel would get a huge boost in performance.
We will see...

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April 03, 2017, 12:36:47 PM
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It's true that GG's Ethash kernel performs better on Windows.
I just started with optimizations anyway.

So, respectfully, what ever happened to Zcash? We still don't have a first-rate open source miner. All these other algos already have decent open source miners available to them. Just sayin'. Smiley


Oh, I haven'y given up on that yet.
You have to understand, though, that the competition for Zcash miners is much more intense than those for other miners, and my resources are quite limited. It seems to me that people assume that first-class open-source miners just automagically happen, but that's simply not the case.
“Automagically” Cheesy I love that Word. No they probably got hyped, you managed to get so many miners and you look like a developer who can achieve this and they do not know the process of coding usually, so they automatically think you will do it but they have no idea how long it will take, they know you can but don’t know when basically.

So, they keep bothering developers, its a common thing in any development job not just miners. From basic html5 games to complex financial software its all the same.

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April 03, 2017, 12:38:28 PM
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I just got a few msi rx470 4gb and love them but I'm used to playing with r9s it seems you guys are running higher rates than I am I'm only running 20 with stock clocks and no mods what is the best way to get higher rates modding the straps than over clocking

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April 03, 2017, 03:43:51 PM
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Results of pre 5 using the new default bat

Ethpool reports only 24.5MH/s not sure why.

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April 03, 2017, 04:48:47 PM
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At any rate, I will have to rethink the financial aspects of open-source miner development.
Sadly, I was making much more money when I was developing private kernels just for myself.

Well, you should add optional devfee to your miner( on by default), I'm sure a good percentage of miners would pay.
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April 03, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
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At any rate, I will have to rethink the financial aspects of open-source miner development.
Sadly, I was making much more money when I was developing private kernels just for myself.

Well, you should add optional devfee to your miner( on by default), I'm sure a good percentage of miners would pay.

Yeah, somebody posted a configuration file for sgminer for dev fees in this thread a while back. Let me take that up now...

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April 03, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
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Hi Zawawa,

Thanks for pre5, on Win 10, I'm getting 28.5Mh/s on average for ETH on a 6x Sapphire 470 nitro+ 8GB rig, 1750 timing, 1100 core and 2150 memory. On Claymore I get 29 but with the dev fees, I think your miner is now about the same in terms of pure miner performance. What I mean by that, is that I'll have to see what the pool reports after a few hours.

I do get a lot of HW errors though. Also, consumption is through the roof compared to Claymore!
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April 03, 2017, 05:36:30 PM
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I actually haven't done anything about power consumption yet.
No worries, I will get to that in no time.

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April 03, 2017, 06:15:31 PM
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HW Errors concern me.

Won't the hw errors cause the gpu to degrade over time?
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April 03, 2017, 06:30:33 PM
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HW Errors concern me.

Won't the hw errors cause the gpu to degrade over time?

Yeah, I'm looking into that as well.

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