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May 01, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
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zawawa, can you help me?

I have two timings straps, 1 for cryptonight memory clock 1950MHz and 2nd for ethereum on 2200MHz memory clock.
Is there is a way to unite straps into 1, or flash these 2 straps in bios some way that allows to use this straps on they clocks on 1 bios?

I'm tired to reflash bios every time when changes profits from algo.

Um, no and no. It boggles my mind that a user asks me for help with modded BIOS'es when I clearly stated I don't support them...
My question folows from current situation. Until GGS didn't optimized for mjr memory I forced to do something else with that hynix mjr memory. And GGS gives the BSOD when I try to use memory timigs even on stock bios, that's "boggles my mind".
Last two days ethereum and cryptononight profit jumps. So I forced to reflash bios several times a day...

Oh, I see... It's time to implement automatic algorithm switching, then!

As for your situation, you just cannot "combine" straps. It just doesn't work that way, and that the whole point of on-the-fly memory timing mods. I am working on something very important right now, but I will get to Hynix as soon as I am done.
Thank you! I'll wait... Good luck!
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May 01, 2018, 07:24:46 PM
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zawawa, can you help me?

I have two timings straps, 1 for cryptonight memory clock 1950MHz and 2nd for ethereum on 2200MHz memory clock.
Is there is a way to unite straps into 1, or flash these 2 straps in bios some way that allows to use this straps on they clocks on 1 bios?

I'm tired to reflash bios every time when changes profits from algo.

Um, no and no. It boggles my mind that a user asks me for help with modded BIOS'es when I clearly stated I don't support them...

mmm, the " mod" isn't just a setup in which I tell the card to use xxx Core frequency and yyy volts etc AND to apply certain time straps ?
I can replicate those in GGS, using overclock and copying timestrap from a txt file and then changing algo. Well, I think that I did. And it didn't BSOD

It was a dream ?


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May 01, 2018, 07:45:56 PM
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Interesting, someone got it to use timings in GGS without BSOD?
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May 01, 2018, 08:03:45 PM
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zawawa, can you help me?

I have two timings straps, 1 for cryptonight memory clock 1950MHz and 2nd for ethereum on 2200MHz memory clock.
Is there is a way to unite straps into 1, or flash these 2 straps in bios some way that allows to use this straps on they clocks on 1 bios?

I'm tired to reflash bios every time when changes profits from algo.

Um, no and no. It boggles my mind that a user asks me for help with modded BIOS'es when I clearly stated I don't support them...

mmm, the " mod" isn't just a setup in which I tell the card to use xxx Core frequency and yyy volts etc AND to apply certain time straps ?
I can replicate those in GGS, using overclock and copying timestrap from a txt file and then changing algo. Well, I think that I did. And it didn't BSOD

It was a dream ?




Ideally, yes. The thing is there exists an extra layer between the hardware and the miner that is the driver,
and it makes things so unpredictable. I *could* get rid of it if I had enough time and resources,
but that remains a project in a distant future...

Gateless Gate Sharp, an open-source ETH/XMR miner: http://bit.ly/2rJ2x4V
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May 01, 2018, 08:10:28 PM
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If I ever support Linux, it will be in the form of an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution for mining.
It should be pretty interesting with the same user-interface and better control over hardware.
Guys, you got to make a lot of money with GGS! I have a ton of ideas to materialize!!

Gateless Gate Sharp, an open-source ETH/XMR miner: http://bit.ly/2rJ2x4V
BTC: 1BHwDWVerUTiKxhHPf2ubqKKiBMiKQGomZ
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May 01, 2018, 09:18:12 PM
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If I ever support Linux, it will be in the form of an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution for mining.
It should be pretty interesting with the same user-interface and better control over hardware.
Guys, you got to make a lot of money with GGS! I have a ton of ideas to materialize!!
Good idea about Linux distribution... But don't forget that many of us uses computer during mining and many use Windows. Don't put that thought to 1st place, please.
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May 01, 2018, 09:31:22 PM
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If I ever support Linux, it will be in the form of an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution for mining.
It should be pretty interesting with the same user-interface and better control over hardware.
Guys, you got to make a lot of money with GGS! I have a ton of ideas to materialize!!
Good idea about Linux distribution... But don't forget that many of us uses computer during mining and many use Windows. Don't put that thought to 1st place, please.

Oh, no worries. It's not going to happen anytime soon. It is just that the idea of
not having to worry about the driver is so appealing...

Gateless Gate Sharp, an open-source ETH/XMR miner: http://bit.ly/2rJ2x4V
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May 01, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
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I have several RX 470's that I have tested on gatelessgate for Ethereum, here is my feedback :

  • Produces on an average 1-2mh per GPU less than Claymore (this is after sitting through the painfully long optimisation process)
  • Consumes about 30% higher power compared to Claymore
  • Messed up the powerplay tables so completely that even after uninstalling the miner and using several tools to reset fan settings or OC settings etc my GPU fans were constantly at 100%, I had to uninstall and reinstall drivers entirely

Nice UI, but I dont see the point of using something thats clearly inferior to Claymore with the same devfee.

Did you use the recommended driver? At least the third problem shouldn't have happened.
As for performance, I just started to working on W0lf's kernel again, so please come back in a few weeks.

I did, I used 18.2.1 so I guess this was a bug report. This happened after running the optimization twice.

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I have several RX 470's that I have tested on gatelessgate for Ethereum, here is my feedback :

  • Produces on an average 1-2mh per GPU less than Claymore (this is after sitting through the painfully long optimisation process)
  • Consumes about 30% higher power compared to Claymore
  • Messed up the powerplay tables so completely that even after uninstalling the miner and using several tools to reset fan settings or OC settings etc my GPU fans were constantly at 100%, I had to uninstall and reinstall drivers entirely

Nice UI, but I dont see the point of using something thats clearly inferior to Claymore with the same devfee.

Did you use the recommended driver? At least the third problem shouldn't have happened.
As for performance, I just started to working on W0lf's kernel again, so please come back in a few weeks.

I did, I used 18.2.1 so I guess this was a bug report. This happened after running the optimization twice.

You should be able to reset the fan speed by either the "Restore Stock Settings" button or the "Reset All" button, then. GGS digs deeper into AMD's library and touches upon API's other tools do not. As for power consumption, I forgot to mention that I will update the optimizer so that it would maximize profitability, taking the cost of electricity into account.

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May 01, 2018, 10:02:42 PM
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You should be able to reset the fan speed by either the "Restore Stock Settings" button or the "Reset All" button, then. As for power consumption, I forgot to mention that I will update the optimizer so that it would maximize profitability, taking into the cost of electricity into account.

@Zawawa:

Take your time, as the toy we have an hand now is fun to play with. A bit tricky at times - but when handeled carefully the results are more than nice ! Congrats !

Testing right now with two nice pieces of sillicon (Quality 81.6% and 77.5%) and so far my own timings seem to work - just needs a tad more to stability Smiley as i get from time to time a ADL_Overdrive5_PowerControl_Set() failed for Device #1 (thats a 580 8G) ... but well .. Results so far are ok ... got both past 1050h/s on CN Heavy.

https://imgur.com/a/3fdcQHF

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May 01, 2018, 10:18:22 PM
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You should be able to reset the fan speed by either the "Restore Stock Settings" button or the "Reset All" button, then. As for power consumption, I forgot to mention that I will update the optimizer so that it would maximize profitability, taking into the cost of electricity into account.

@Zawawa:

Take your time, as the toy we have an hand now is fun to play with. A bit tricky at times - but when handeled carefully the results are more than nice ! Congrats !

Testing right now with two nice pieces of sillicon (Quality 81.6% and 77.5%) and so far my own timings seem to work - just needs a tad more to stability Smiley as i get from time to time a ADL_Overdrive5_PowerControl_Set() failed for Device #1 (thats a 580 8G) ... but well .. Results so far are ok ... got both past 1050h/s on CN Heavy.

https://imgur.com/a/3fdcQHF


Can you share your timings and settings for reaching that excellent result for 580 8G hynix memory?
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@Zawawa:

Take your time, as the toy we have an hand now is fun to play with. A bit tricky at times - but when handeled carefully the results are more than nice ! Congrats !

Testing right now with two nice pieces of sillicon (Quality 81.6% and 77.5%) and so far my own timings seem to work - just needs a tad more to stability Smiley as i get from time to time a ADL_Overdrive5_PowerControl_Set() failed for Device #1 (thats a 580 8G) ... but well .. Results so far are ok ... got both past 1050h/s on CN Heavy.

https://imgur.com/a/3fdcQHF


Can you share your timings and settings for reaching that excellent result for 580 8G hynix memory?

Parts of it for sure - but the MJR Timings are not public - sry (there is far to much time and presents for my wife in them  Grin Huh Roll Eyes ). Zawawa does know what that means  Cheesy


01 - Find the sweetspot of your Sillicone (Corevoltage)
02 - Keep an eye on the temps - GDDR5 does not like heat (!). The sensors ya have on the cards are far away from the rams, take the core temp and add at least 10c on top of that (better 15c).
02 - Find an intensity that works best (takes time ...). For example between 105 and 115 the result varies +-100h/s when stable
03 - Look for s stable hashrate - no zigzags or sinus waves etc ... if that happens ... int is off  Cool
04 - Straps -> need a TON of time and varies slightly from card to card Sad
05 - Most important -> Have fun !


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May 02, 2018, 08:59:43 AM
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There are timings, in full view, on this very forum for MJR that give 1200h/s on cn heavy at 1244/2125 570 nitro+ 8g.
Just keep looking.  Wink
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May 02, 2018, 09:25:06 AM
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There are timings, in full view, on this very forum for MJR that give 1200h/s on cn heavy at 1244/2125 570 nitro+ 8g.
Just keep looking.  Wink

Not even close to those speeds on public timings, post proof or it didn't happen.

The best published for me are those of Doktor, i am doing 1080h/s @ 1240/2150 on them, and even that is after hours of testing different settings and miners ( Nitro+ 570 8GB ).
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May 02, 2018, 11:05:34 AM
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There are timings, in full view, on this very forum for MJR that give 1200h/s on cn heavy at 1244/2125 570 nitro+ 8g.
Just keep looking.  Wink
This forum is very big. And I can looking for years in search of right info. Maybe you share it to save our time?
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May 02, 2018, 11:59:44 AM
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There are timings, in full view, on this very forum for MJR that give 1200h/s on cn heavy at 1244/2125 570 nitro+ 8g.
Just keep looking.  Wink

Not even close to those speeds on public timings, post proof or it didn't happen.

The best published for me are those of Doktor, i am doing 1080h/s @ 1240/2150 on them, and even that is after hours of testing different settings and miners ( Nitro+ 570 8GB ).

which miner and what is the setting? the best I can get only 1050 h/s.
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May 02, 2018, 12:07:38 PM
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Gentlemen,

Excuse my bluntness but it also took me lots of time and potential revenue lost in order to figure it all out.
The information in here on the forum. Might not be stable on most cards anyway but it is possible.
I won't detail here as it is not related to this thread/software.

Sorry for offtopic zawawa.
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May 02, 2018, 12:12:57 PM
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Gentlemen,

Excuse my bluntness but it also took me lots of time and potential revenue lost in order to figure it all out.
The information in here on the forum. Might not be stable on most cards anyway but it is possible.
I won't detail here as it is not related to this thread/software.

Sorry for offtopic zawawa.
Timings is related to this theme. GGS have timigs settings. And his work depends from timings.
You can give us a link, or at least in what theme we must look.
Else your words will be just words. No screenshots, no proofs...
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May 02, 2018, 01:10:46 PM
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I would say everyone is entitled to her or his privacy.
His advice was sound, too. I have some time to work on Hynix today. No worries.

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May 02, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
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I would say everyone is entitled to her or his privacy.
His advice was sound, too. I have some time to work on Hynix today. No worries.

Indeed, we help and share info - but we can't provide a 24/7 service  Wink

Kinda as example we can use the "Strap" Discussion - there is at least one strap publicly available (even posted in this thread a few posts back) that allows Hynix MJR to go past 1000h/s kinda easy. The only thing someone has to do is to get the stuff together and add 1 to 1. Result would be stable if the starting point is stable and you go from there. Useless to start with timings if the core is not stable etc ....

Overall it takes one thing some do not want to invest easy -> time, kinda lots of it ...

@Zawawa: Surely you do not support modded bioses for a reason - as there is no chance to cover all do and don't do's which might take a count in the "does not work" ... As long as someone does know what he's doing the results with GGS are nice and stable - it just needs time ... not a really easy one click and top notch oc/strap whatever results.

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