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May 18, 2018, 06:10:03 PM
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You are showing me CNHeavy on an 8gb card. They can do more h/s than a 4gb on CN7.  My 4gb CNHeavy rx580 run 8-850 as well however still less than 1k on CN7.  Those are definately good numbers however the problem with showing a Hynix card doing 1k is that you dont know what card. Some cards are shit and some do very well. My ASUS Dual cards are dialed up higher than yours and acheive less....Most of them can do stable 2050 where you only have 2030.

Unless I am missing something my point still stands due to difference in cards. If you go on anorak.tech there are all kinds of bios that do very well with hynix and some that cannot do well depending on the card as well.

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May 18, 2018, 08:19:54 PM
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You are showing me CNHeavy on an 8gb card. They can do more h/s than a 4gb on CN7.  My 4gb CNHeavy rx580 run 8-850 as well however still less than 1k on CN7.  Those are definately good numbers however the problem with showing a Hynix card doing 1k is that you dont know what card. Some cards are shit and some do very well. My ASUS Dual cards are dialed up higher than yours and acheive less....Most of them can do stable 2050 where you only have 2030.

Unless I am missing something my point still stands due to difference in cards. If you go on anorak.tech there are all kinds of bios that do very well with hynix and some that cannot do well depending on the card as well.

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All my 6 x RX580 are 4gb cards.  And they do more than ~1k on CNV7  (screenshot in previous post).  Even the Hynix ones do (1k tuned for XMR) but I settled for a common strap for ETH+XMR and that's why they are doing ~975. memory is clocked lower because my timings are aggressive. Yup, there are cases where few cards can't clock as high as other ones with similar memory type but every Elpida card I have clocks similarly the core voltage required varies though.  Some are fine with 875mV some need 912mV
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May 19, 2018, 06:27:34 AM
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Sure, sure... Well, I need to take a break from the code optimizer.
Let me play with the shiny Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 64...

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May 19, 2018, 01:06:38 PM
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Ok, you need comparison ?

YOUR RX480 8GB SAMSUNG.... Ubermix timing, stock for the rest with 9 hours optimize+memory timing+watchdog running)
As reference, I have 28.4 Mh/s in etash.( Optimize + memorytiming NOT extended)

GGS MoneroV7: 1034 h/s
GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
Srbminer Monero v7 1thread 976 h/s 2threads 1033 H/s
Srbminer Sumokoinv7 1 thread 980 h/s 2 threads 988 h/s

That is what an average guy can do

but:

Rx 580 8gb Micron, PBE 1 click
29.5 Etash vs 31.9 Claymore

GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
SRBMiner Sumokoin 1060 ( and it work at 1300 core!)

So, it seems, that V7 is in par but Heavy is not when is something YOU optimize ( or you have had in hand).
Heavy in SRB is weard, it keep moving between 980 1030 1060. Not always the same card.
Cpu kicks ?  it happened to me in GGS when using ODD numbers of threads/worksize as well.

When something isn't preoptimized, the gap is bigger in Heavy but exist also in v7 smaller



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May 19, 2018, 02:17:32 PM
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Not bad, not bad... I guess I could take care of power consumption later.


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May 19, 2018, 06:33:24 PM
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Ok, you need comparison ?

YOUR RX480 8GB SAMSUNG.... Ubermix timing, stock for the rest with 9 hours optimize+memory timing+watchdog running)
As reference, I have 28.4 Mh/s in etash.( Optimize + memorytiming NOT extended)

GGS MoneroV7: 1034 h/s
GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
Srbminer Monero v7 1thread 976 h/s 2threads 1033 H/s
Srbminer Sumokoinv7 1 thread 980 h/s 2 threads 988 h/s

That is what an average guy can do

but:

Rx 580 8gb Micron, PBE 1 click
29.5 Etash vs 31.9 Claymore

GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
SRBMiner Sumokoin 1060 ( and it work at 1300 core!)

So, it seems, that V7 is in par but Heavy is not when is something YOU optimize ( or you have had in hand).
Heavy in SRB is weard, it keep moving between 980 1030 1060. Not always the same card.
Cpu kicks ?  it happened to me in GGS when using ODD numbers of threads/worksize as well.

When something isn't preoptimized, the gap is bigger in Heavy but exist also in v7 smaller





This is VERY interesting.. I wonder where I can get Polaris 10 with Micron GDDR5...
I will try to push the next version either today or tomorrow, so you can try an updated optimizer.
I don't know if I should include the new kernels in the GCN assembly, though.
I will do more testing tonight and then decide.

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BTC: 1BHwDWVerUTiKxhHPf2ubqKKiBMiKQGomZ
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May 20, 2018, 11:17:18 AM
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And just for the kicks here's an RX 570 8gb doing 1260 H/s on Cryptonight-Heavy.


What sorcery is this? Would you mind sharing us your settings and straps?  Shocked
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May 20, 2018, 11:21:58 AM
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This is just for rx480 ? Btw need patcher after mod bios using this tool?

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May 20, 2018, 01:01:50 PM
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This is just for rx480 ? Btw need patcher after mod bios using this tool?

No and no. I am preparing Version 1.3.8 right now, so you might want to wait for it.

Gateless Gate Sharp, an open-source ETH/XMR miner: http://bit.ly/2rJ2x4V
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May 20, 2018, 01:13:40 PM
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This is just for rx480 ? Btw need patcher after mod bios using this tool?

No and no. I am preparing Version 1.3.8 right now, so you might want to wait for it.

Will this one have updated kernels and/or binary kernels?
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May 20, 2018, 02:51:42 PM
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Not bad, not bad... I guess I could take care of power consumption later.



what is the cclock, mclock, intensity? is this hynix or samsung?
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May 20, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
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Not bad, not bad... I guess I could take care of power consumption later.



what is the cclock, mclock, intensity? is this hynix or samsung?
It is samsung (sapphire nitro+ vega 64) and crazy high clock and wattage. One can get the same speed with almost half wattage with SRBminer
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May 21, 2018, 02:47:58 AM
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Actually. it's a good time to introduce profit-based optimization and algorithm switching. More work, more work...

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May 21, 2018, 03:40:21 PM
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profit based means for money?
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Last edit: May 22, 2018, 06:17:28 PM by zawawa
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profit based means for money?

What I meant was optimization that is geared toward maximizing profit for the user.
I will have to add a fee for optimization and benchmarking, though.

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May 22, 2018, 06:48:45 PM
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have you been able to find what's wrong with CN heavy ?

I tested with XMR stak and it also take advantage of 8gb card for heavy thus increasing the speed compared to CNv7...

I double checked with your code...... Grin and Xmrstak ones  Grin... Smiley but I was unable to find anything.

Damn, I am not a good Dev!



it's a good time to introduce profit-based optimization and algorithm switching. ? is it ?

Isn't easier to send a pm to Nplus, Nemos,Tutulfo, Megaminer, Forage   and ask them how to integrate your miner in their autoswitch software ?
They normally need a command line ... and Api...



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May 22, 2018, 06:54:18 PM
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have you been able to find what's wrong with CN heavy ?

I tested with XMR stak and it also take advantage of 8gb card for heavy thus increasing the speed compared to CNv7...

I double checked with your code...... Grin and Xmrstak ones  Grin... Smiley but I was unable to find anything.

Damn, I am not a good Dev!



it's a good time to introduce profit-based optimization and algorithm switching. ? is it ?

Isn't easier to send a pm to Nplus, Nemos,Tutulfo, Megaminer, Forage   and ask them how to integrate your miner in their autoswitch software ?
They normally need a command line ... and Api...





See, it ain't that easy.  Wink Vega 64 with the crazy AMD driver was driving me nuts, but I will take a look at CryptoNight-Heavy today.

My original plan all the way back from the beginning is to integrate an optimizer and an auto-switcher
into  the miner. This design choice should make sense once all the planned features are in place.

Gateless Gate Sharp, an open-source ETH/XMR miner: http://bit.ly/2rJ2x4V
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May 23, 2018, 09:05:39 AM
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Now with my vega 64(nitro+ samsung memory) I have about 1940H/s with 195/205W and rock stability.
Mining GRAFT (CN7)


Hope to see your new version very soon  Grin
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May 23, 2018, 11:05:44 AM
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Not bad, not bad... I guess I could take care of power consumption later.



what is the cclock, mclock, intensity? is this hynix or samsung?
It is samsung (sapphire nitro+ vega 64) and crazy high clock and wattage. One can get the same speed with almost half wattage with SRBminer

i can confirm that...there is no magic ´to get this speed with that powerdraw. with the right configs/mods its easy to get >2k on a vega56 with half ot the powerconsumption

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May 23, 2018, 12:05:33 PM
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Not bad, not bad... I guess I could take care of power consumption later.

https://i.imgur.com/VhTukXa.png

what is the cclock, mclock, intensity? is this hynix or samsung?
It is samsung (sapphire nitro+ vega 64) and crazy high clock and wattage. One can get the same speed with almost half wattage with SRBminer

i can confirm that...there is no magic ´to get this speed with that powerdraw. with the right configs/mods its easy to get >2k on a vega56 with half ot the powerconsumption


Yeah, It's true, now I have found a good setting for very low conumption and good hashrate with vega 64.
I have 1880H/s and 115W, CN7 and always GGS.

Now I test this setting if are rock solid.
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