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December 16, 2016, 01:57:11 PM
Last edit: December 28, 2016, 02:32:14 PM by Charloz24
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Here are some altcoins that I think it could be a good move to have in 2017. It would be nice to recheck in say, 3 months (march 2017) what is my success rate. I will explain how I would distribute in % of holding I would go. (So for example, I have 1000$ to invest, if I say I would go 10% on this one, then it's 100$)

1) ETH

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.01 BTC  or 7,90$
UPDATE 2016-12-28: 7.13$
Yes ETH price dropped a lot, but it seems now that the drop is over. It could go back to 1 000 000 000$ marketcap but of course I'm not all in for this one. Let's say 20%


2) Bitcoin

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 783$
UPDATE 2016-12-28: 967$
Not that much to say, it's the king and since the halving in july 2016 that price is still rising slowly, but I don't expect it to double, so a safe bet. Another 20%


3) Monero

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.0108 BTC  or 8,48$
UPDATE 2016-12-28: 13,72$
Stay solid at over 100 000 000$ marketcap, could go easy to 150 000 000$ marketcap again. Another 20%


4) Blackcoin (BLK)

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00003396 BTC  or 0.0266$
UPDATE 2016-12-28: 0.027$
This one is a different strategy. It seems to always oscillate between 2 000 000$ and 3 000 000$ marketcap. So right now it's time to buy and watch when a pump occur and then resell for profit (just before 3 000 000$) Another 20%


5) ESPERS (ESP2)

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00000055 LTC  or 0.000001996$
UPDATE 2016-12-28: 0.00000298$
Ok this one is more for a homerun or nothing. It cost nothing, so risk is very low. If it gains attention it will enter BTC market and more exchange. So an easy X10 on this one if this occurs. so 10%


6) Litecoin LTC

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.004633 BTC  or 3.63$
UPDATE 2016-12-28: 4.61$
Not that much to say, it's the alt that bring them all, seems like it ain't dead. so 10%


So in my example, with 1 000$ as of today (2016-12-16) I would get:

20% in ETH so 25.3165 ETH
20% in BTC so 0.2554 BTC
20% in XMR so 23.58 XMR
20% in BLK so 7518 BLK
10% in ESP2 so 50 100 200 ESP2
10% in LTC so 27.54 LTC

UPDATE 2016-12-28:
ETH holding is now (25.3165*7.13) 180.50$
BTC holding is now (0.2554*967)    246.97$
XMR holding is now (23.58*13.72)   323.52$
BLK holding is now (7518*0.027)      202.99$
ESP2 holding is now (50100200*0.00000298) 149.30$
LTC holdin is now (27.54*4.61$) 126.96$
Total: 1230.24$


Feel free to discuss my choice and let see the result in march 2017!
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December 16, 2016, 02:38:40 PM
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December 16, 2016, 03:33:44 PM
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Here are some altcoins that I think it could be a good move to have in 2017. It would be nice to recheck in say, 3 months (march 2017) what is my success rate. I will explain how I would distribute in % of holding I would go. (So for example, I have 1000$ to invest, if I say I would go 10% on this one, then it's 100$)
Thanks for sharing all this with us too. i'll try to say my opinion on each, hope it is helpful.

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1) ETH
Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.01 BTC  or 7,90$
Yes ETH price dropped a lot, but it seems now that the drop is over. It could go back to 1 000 000 000$ marketcap but of course I'm not all in for this one. Let's say 20%

i believe ETH price drop was mostly because of the bitcoin price rise which has always meant people cashing out of altcoin market and going back to bitcoin which has always been the go-to coin hence the future of ETH price depends on the near future of bitcoin price, for example if in the next month (Jan) we see $850+ and continue rising i expect ETH to go down to $5

also if bitcoin stops rising and we see Jan to be an stable price like before on 770 is price  altcoins would start moving again and ETH can see another pump and we know those pumps have always been big.

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2) Bitcoin
Price this moment (2016-12-16): 783$
Not that much to say, it's the king and since the halving in july 2016 that price is still rising slowly, but I don't expect it to double, so a safe bet. Another 20%

it has already doubled a couple of times, check out last year price. and people like me who bought at $200 have more than triple Smiley

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3) Monero
Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.0108 BTC  or 8,48$
Stay solid at over 100 000 000$ marketcap, could go easy to 150 000 000$ marketcap again. Another 20%

i am expecting another period of rising price for this coin again in new year because anonymity is becoming more and more popular.
and monero is getting more famous in darknet.

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4) Blackcoin (BLK)
Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00003396 BTC  or 0.0266$
This one is a different strategy. It seems to always oscillate between 2 000 000$ and 3 000 000$ marketcap. So right now it's time to buy and watch when a pump occur and then resell for profit (just before 3 000 000$) Another 20%

This is one of those coins that i have been watching and waiting for its rise but it is taking too long, but the only thing that makes me still hopeful is that it has always have big pumps and it can be a lot bigger than 20%

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5) ESPERS (ESP2)
Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00000055 LTC  or 0.000001996$
Ok this one is more for a homerun or nothing. It cost nothing, so risk is very low. If it gains attention it will enter BTC market and more exchange. So an easy X10 on this one if this occurs. so 10%
got not much to say here!
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6) Litecoin LTC
Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.004633 BTC  or 3.63$
Not that much to say, it's the alt that bring them all, seems like it ain't dead. so 10%

one word: China
wait for the big ass pump soon.

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20% in ETH so 25.3165 ETH
20% in BTC so 0.2554 BTC
20% in XMR so 23.58 XMR
20% in BLK so 7518 BLK
10% in ESP2 so 50 100 200 ESP2
10% in LTC so 27.54 LTC

lets see how much we are right, i have also already made investments in LTC, ETH and BLK but my percentages are 80% BTC and the rest in altcoins Cheesy
p.s. waiting for a good time to enter XMR

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December 16, 2016, 03:58:18 PM
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I am kind of bullish of bitcoin, litecoin and XMR. Not much of a follower of ESPERS (ESP2). So if someone could explain why it could give good returns for 2017 it would be awesome. I am positive on tokens such as ICN, and SNGLS for 2017.

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December 16, 2016, 04:00:47 PM
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Maybe I wasn't clear enought, but when I said 20%, is 20% of investment to put, not 20% in rise.
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December 16, 2016, 04:37:37 PM
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Here are some altcoins that I think it could be a good move to have in 2017. It would be nice to recheck in say, 3 months (march 2017) what is my success rate. I will explain how I would distribute in % of holding I would go. (So for example, I have 1000$ to invest, if I say I would go 10% on this one, then it's 100$)

1) ETH

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.01 BTC  or 7,90$

Yes ETH price dropped a lot, but it seems now that the drop is over. It could go back to 1 000 000 000$ marketcap but of course I'm not all in for this one. Let's say 20%


2) Bitcoin

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 783$

Not that much to say, it's the king and since the halving in july 2016 that price is still rising slowly, but I don't expect it to double, so a safe bet. Another 20%


3) Monero

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.0108 BTC  or 8,48$

Stay solid at over 100 000 000$ marketcap, could go easy to 150 000 000$ marketcap again. Another 20%


4) Blackcoin (BLK)

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00003396 BTC  or 0.0266$

This one is a different strategy. It seems to always oscillate between 2 000 000$ and 3 000 000$ marketcap. So right now it's time to buy and watch when a pump occur and then resell for profit (just before 3 000 000$) Another 20%


5) ESPERS (ESP2)

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00000055 LTC  or 0.000001996$

Ok this one is more for a homerun or nothing. It cost nothing, so risk is very low. If it gains attention it will enter BTC market and more exchange. So an easy X10 on this one if this occurs. so 10%


6) Litecoin LTC

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.004633 BTC  or 3.63$

Not that much to say, it's the alt that bring them all, seems like it ain't dead. so 10%


So in my example, with 1 000$ as of today (2016-12-16) I would get:

20% in ETH so 25.3165 ETH
20% in BTC so 0.2554 BTC
20% in XMR so 23.58 XMR
20% in BLK so 7518 BLK
10% in ESP2 so 50 100 200 ESP2
10% in LTC so 27.54 LTC


Feel free to discuss my choice and let see the result in march 2017!



Decent picks with decent justification man, but let me improve that sheet. Have in mind that I'm probably the best alt-investor in the scene  Wink:

- ETH: Hype cycle is coming the way down. Most probably ETH is gonna drop to 300-500 M market cap for many months and then will look for a stabilization there, until the built-in dapps start to work (or not), ETH shouldn't have a substantial rise this year. I don't see ETH touching 1B again until real dapps start do be useful (maybe in 2018).
Suggestion: Change that 20% for Maidsafecoin (MAID). In Q1-Q2 Safe network is gonna be LIVE, and believe me, that protocol working is worth way more than 30-40M that we're seeing now.

- BTC: Agree.

- Monero: There's a lot of hype currently in Monero, but let's face facts: Monero has passed from 5M to 110M this 2016, and still no GUI, no real adoption, no nothing. It's a well known fact that Monero is supported by huge BTC holders, but that alone is not enough reason to invest. Short term looks primed for another rise to the 0.02 zone, just as ETH did after the first "crash", but that is a short term bet for traders, not for investors.
Suggestion: Take a look at Gamecredits (GAME). Penetration the REAL gaming sector starting this 2017. Expert and dedicated dev team with past succesful experiences in gaming sector, and with a great financial state to develop the project. If they reach only the 50% of acomplishments they want this 2017, price will easily make an X4-X5.

- Blackcoin: Agree, but don't sell when it touches 3M, when chinese pump, they pump hard. Wink

- Espers: This piece of shit most probably will be ever added to a BTC pairing exchange.
Suggestion: If you're looking for a risky shitcoin that can make an X10, take a look at solid coins like FLO, VIA or XVG. Maybe not an X10, but a very possible X5-X7.

- Litecoin: Agree.


Hope it helps.  Smiley



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December 16, 2016, 06:11:56 PM
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1.Waves - at least 2$ (0.22$ at the moment)
2.GAME - at least 1$ (0.21)
3.ICN - at least 1$ (0.21)
4.Monero - over 20$ (8.5$)
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December 16, 2016, 07:56:54 PM
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yeah 2017 will be year of maidsafecoin and leocoin ! big jumps..you will see...but also btc can do and will do  again 200%!

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December 17, 2016, 07:22:44 AM
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Here are some altcoins that I think it could be a good move to have in 2017. It would be nice to recheck in say, 3 months (march 2017) what is my success rate. I will explain how I would distribute in % of holding I would go. (So for example, I have 1000$ to invest, if I say I would go 10% on this one, then it's 100$)

1) ETH

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.01 BTC  or 7,90$

Yes ETH price dropped a lot, but it seems now that the drop is over. It could go back to 1 000 000 000$ marketcap but of course I'm not all in for this one. Let's say 20%


2) Bitcoin

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 783$

Not that much to say, it's the king and since the halving in july 2016 that price is still rising slowly, but I don't expect it to double, so a safe bet. Another 20%


3) Monero

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.0108 BTC  or 8,48$

Stay solid at over 100 000 000$ marketcap, could go easy to 150 000 000$ marketcap again. Another 20%


4) Blackcoin (BLK)

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00003396 BTC  or 0.0266$

This one is a different strategy. It seems to always oscillate between 2 000 000$ and 3 000 000$ marketcap. So right now it's time to buy and watch when a pump occur and then resell for profit (just before 3 000 000$) Another 20%


5) ESPERS (ESP2)

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.00000055 LTC  or 0.000001996$

Ok this one is more for a homerun or nothing. It cost nothing, so risk is very low. If it gains attention it will enter BTC market and more exchange. So an easy X10 on this one if this occurs. so 10%


6) Litecoin LTC

Price this moment (2016-12-16): 0.004633 BTC  or 3.63$

Not that much to say, it's the alt that bring them all, seems like it ain't dead. so 10%


So in my example, with 1 000$ as of today (2016-12-16) I would get:

20% in ETH so 25.3165 ETH
20% in BTC so 0.2554 BTC
20% in XMR so 23.58 XMR
20% in BLK so 7518 BLK
10% in ESP2 so 50 100 200 ESP2
10% in LTC so 27.54 LTC


Feel free to discuss my choice and let see the result in march 2017!
Nice topic and thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Agree with you in most of them.
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December 17, 2016, 07:42:58 AM
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20% in ETH so 25.3165 ETH
20% in BTC so 0.2554 BTC
20% in XMR so 23.58 XMR
20% in BLK so 7518 BLK
10% in ESP2 so 50 100 200 ESP2
10% in LTC so 27.54 LTC

i personally am leaning more towards investing the majority of my money in bitcoin (increase the 20% to at least 40-50% at all times and at present time even bigger because of how bitcoin price is moving at the moment)

then i would reduce the percentage i invest in ETH because it is on a falling spree Smiley (maybe 10% to 0 is best at the moment)

XMR seems to be good at 20%

LTC at 10% is low in my opinion, although it is not at a good state right now pricewise. so maybe have it low right now but go in before it rises.

ESP2 i don't like this coin!

BLK sounds good enough to me although i am waiting for a bottom to get in so i am currently at 0%

iam also watching ICN

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December 17, 2016, 07:49:39 AM
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Thanks for sharing! I wish I had enough to have that diverse a portfolio but since I only earn coins and not buy them, my holdings are really only what people pay to me so I have BTC, Doge, ltc and ETH.

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1. BTC not an alt, but I would put 30% as a safe hedge since you're putting quite a bit on risky alts.

2. China pump will affect several coins, and I would step lightly around newer ones and follow the trend of 1st Q pumps for the older alts: LTC, Doge, ETH.

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December 17, 2016, 08:17:02 AM
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Maidsafecoin will be big winner in 2017 on that list he put out! Just rimember this post!

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Thanks for sharing! I wish I had enough to have that diverse a portfolio but since I only earn coins and not buy them, my holdings are really only what people pay to me so I have BTC, Doge, ltc and ETH.

Comments:

1. BTC not an alt, but I would put 30% as a safe hedge since you're putting quite a bit on risky alts.

2. China pump will affect several coins, and I would step lightly around newer ones and follow the trend of 1st Q pumps for the older alts: LTC, Doge, ETH.


Yeah, Bitcoin will be gaining a lot of part in our investment, but what about ltc today? Will SegWit affect that price? Seem to be an exciting thing for a watch.  Grin I just put a little for LTC and Doge coin.
ICN and Bitcoin still be the priority.

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December 17, 2016, 08:50:05 PM
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why you placed in ESPERS (ESP2) coin above rank litecoin
ESPERS coin not popular coin, low is user community
vey low volume transaction in last 24 hour without transaction

only one in exchanger in support esper trading in there CoinExchange.io is not big exchanger

total suply coin is very big until 50 billion coin
all coin if total suply is big not good investment
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December 17, 2016, 09:14:01 PM
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why you placed in ESPERS (ESP2) coin above rank litecoin
ESPERS coin not popular coin, low is user community
vey low volume transaction in last 24 hour without transaction

only one in exchanger in support esper trading in there CoinExchange.io is not big exchanger

total suply coin is very big until 50 billion coin
all coin if total suply is big not good investment


I am sure he hold some and want to give some extra promotion!

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December 18, 2016, 12:00:39 AM
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why you placed in ESPERS (ESP2) coin above rank litecoin
ESPERS coin not popular coin, low is user community
vey low volume transaction in last 24 hour without transaction

only one in exchanger in support esper trading in there CoinExchange.io is not big exchanger

total suply coin is very big until 50 billion coin
all coin if total suply is big not good investment


I am sure he hold some and want to give some extra promotion!

whole topic only to promote esp?

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December 18, 2016, 12:38:36 AM
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You know I respect all of y'all's opinions on altcoins, but man.  Some a these is jist straight up junk, and I don't think they're gonna survive a year.

Lot of these things have crazy-ass devs and flocks of sheep that follow the coin.  But you jist know thet they're gonna lose interest eventually, and there ain't gonna be a blockchain fo' these coins to live on.  Think 'bout that.
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December 18, 2016, 06:10:49 PM
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I'm surprise not to see Factom on your list, apart from Bitcoin for me, Factom is the only coin presently with real world use, making money and have strong business team behind it. We should also note that it has fixed amount just 8.7 million tokens in total. The potential to hit $10 is huge

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December 18, 2016, 08:28:37 PM
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I am sure he hold some and want to give some extra promotion!

whole topic only to promote esp?
Yeah, I think he didn't create the whole topic only to promote the ESP2.  Grin Also, the description is quite honest about the possible investment - "it's all or nothing" so it doesn't look like a big promotion. Smiley

I'm really curious how these predictions will match with reality during the next few months.

I would also mention Dash. I don't expect any extreme rapid boost, but I believe it will grow from the current 0.01 BTC to 0.03 BTC at least within next year, which makes from it another interesting possibility for investment.
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December 18, 2016, 08:46:21 PM
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so much analysis damn
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