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March 03, 2017, 07:58:11 PM
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For sake of argument, let's entertain that I'm spreading FUD and Qtum spreads nothing but truisms. If so, then there shouldn't be a Chinese user on this forum who counters "These attacks have fallen completely flat on the Chinese community" because completely flat equates to nobody unless, of course, Ibai Burgos is giving us piano lessons starting with the difference between "completely flat" and Q-Sharp while pecking Chopsticks on the ivories (speaking of elephants). Sadly, this American hen is serenading her favorite Chinese cock in vain in spite of this is the year of the rooster.
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I do not be surprised if many people do not even read all that is written in this discussion, and just suffer money to these liars.

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March 03, 2017, 08:17:48 PM
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Just like Steven Dai aka Patrick Dai didn't do his due diligence when teaming up with Robert Duskes aka Bobsurplus aka International Bob, Mr. Slick Dick Dai doesn't want you to do your due diligence when looking into Qtum's principals' past affiliations.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/questionable-activities/robert-duskes-scamst/robert-duskes-scamstoppers-c-646481

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I am so happy I found all these warnings on Robert Duskes...if only I had seen them before he hired me!

Let me give you a first hand account! I worked with Robert in his crummy little office...by the way...he says he's surrounded by lawyers...more like pimps and other telemarketing rooms...there are at least 2 other scam telemarketing companies that work in the same building...I know..my friends work in them!

I worked for Robert's main business Nationwide Business Directory. My job was to call Canadian and American businesses to sell them a bogus directory between $399 to $499...whatever I could sell. This was my first telemarketing job...and guess what...it was a total scam...and in the end I got scammed...Robert didn't pay my last paycheck!

Right beside me was another telemarketer, he would call all the businesses that weren't paying on the behalf of Robert's other company scamstoppers.com.

Scamstoppers.com...what a joke...just like Robert is. Robert didn't dress to well actually...so I guess he's not making that much money...and yes I can confirm...the office is trash dump...it's cheap..just like Robert. Robert owes me $546.31 Canadian dollars...I don't think I'll ever get it...so you know what...I am going to post 546 comments on Robert and how cheap and scammy he is...that's called Karma...works both ways!

I sold on average 5 directories per day...other telemarketers sold up to 20 per day!

By the way...I read his comments...his name is not Robert Bradlely...Bradley is his middle name, his real last name is DUSKES...why do you think he would lie on that point? I know...he's a scammer that's why. It was a crappy experience working there...I think I'll be taking another profession! Telemarketing companies are all scams!

Anyways...I am happy that I can give my unique point of view...I hope he gets stopped, arrested...he deserves it...all day long his company just scams people! I am sure he will get what he deserves! $546! Man! What a waste of my time! I should have a picture of him soon...this way you all can see the face of the con man himself!

Remember one thing Robert if you read this... you won't last long..all scams come to an end...and if you rip both your own employees and customers off...that's bad news for you!

These are his scam companies:
SCAMSTOPPERS.COM
NATIONWIDE BUSINESS DIRECTORY
ANNUAIRE DES COMMERCES NATIONWIDE
MARKETING NUTEC

Lastly, Robert says he's never owned any of these companies, my suggestion is go to this local government business registrar website:
https://ssl.req.gouv.qc.ca/slc0110_eng.html

Every time you register a company, it gets logged onto this website, type in Robert Duskes... what a dirty cheap little scammer you are...by the way...have fun with Normes du Travaille..hope they sue you for scamming me!

Hope it helps all people out there that got scammed by Robert...and just for my own Karma...if I ever sold you a directory...I'm sorry! At least I'm making up for it!
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March 03, 2017, 08:20:22 PM
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Hello Qtum Community,



Qtum Letter: "These attacks have fallen completely flat on the Chinese community, as they recognize FUD..."

The fact that 元宝网 (yuanbao.com) exchange is missing from the platforms supporting the ICO is a good sign. Questions, basic questions might be being asked of the Qtum team now in China.

Missing, you say?

https://qtum.org/qtum-crowdsale-update/

http://i.imgur.com/bNTEkxh.png

In the crowdsale update email, delivered today, Yuanbao was not on the list. It had been in many media reports over the past few months.

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March 03, 2017, 08:22:28 PM
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Oh the plot seems to thicken. I am here with a beedy eye on these proceedings.
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March 03, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
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I got the email Newsletter about the Crowdsale date and some other details. I'm just surprised though because the credibility of the Project has already been heavily damaged. Even if people were readily available to invest then, It's changed now as the trust and confidence is no more there.


Either way, Good luck to the team. This was a project I was really looking forward to .

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"Response to recent attacks" => proceeds to not respond in any capacity to legitimate concerns and instead acts as though they can just be ignored by attacking the integrity of those whose voiced said concerns.

It should read "Deflection of recent attacks" instead.

This reminds me of what Paycoin did. The "too big, too connected to scam" angle.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I read across the Smith and Crown: Matt Chwierut review.
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1. There is not enough information to conclusively judge Dai’s character, but his involvement in Bitbay and his attempt to hide it casts a shadow on his credibility.
2. Given the high-profile third-party backing, it is unlikely Qtum is a scam.
3. Qtum should improve its transparency, open up its Slack or explain why signups were stopped, and release some form of code or demonstration product.
4. Interested parties should ignore several red herrings in this issue: PwC’s involvement, Dai’s multiple names, and Caspal’s Rubik’s cube record.
5. The community should not expect this to be a fully decentralized project at launch.
"

I guess Matt never heard of Josh Garza (GAWMiners) and Uncle Stu (Cantor Fitzgerald - Wallstreet investing).
For those wanting to read about the ongoing saga (lawsuit stage) they can read more at - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.0
TLDR: Wallstreet investor funnels money into very large cloudming operation.

This is just one example of where money or backers do not equal trust or competency to complete projects.

Then we get this from Jordon.

I'd just like to remind everyone how fast misinformation can spread at the hands of a vocal few that do no vetting of the validity of the information other than to support their own viewpoint. For a much more serious instance of this, look back at what happened with the boston bomber witchhunt. There is a reason journalism is a job and these trolls aren't causing actual news (I mean really, don't you think the media these days would love to run with "scam company wants to raise millions of dollars"!?). Typos happen, especially in weird chinese names, hell according to my debit card I'm actually "Jordon Earls", and according to some sites online I'm actually "Jordan Earlz". Good thing Gleb didn't find that or I'd be the next scammer not using his real name. I'm not going to try to turn the trolls to our favor, that'd be about as likely as a diehard Trump supporter being convinced to vote for Hillary or vice-versa. But all of you quieter non-trolls, remember that these people are only going to post the info they find that support their skewed viewpoint, and not the info they find that proves it wrong.

Which is complete with hyperbole comparisons built with all the emotional trappings. They call us the trolls  Cheesy
Personally I don't feel Jordan is a scammer, yet he's probably the one with the cleanest record as a background bug hunter.
Hence why the team had him post a reply... no matter how ridiculous.

Then the official response from the Qtum page...
Cool. Boring and it shows us the next move to try the ICO somewhere else like it was mentioned.

At least it didn't involve threats of suing or dead animals through the post like Garza  Wink

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March 03, 2017, 09:24:34 PM
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Hello Qtum Community,



Qtum Letter: "These attacks have fallen completely flat on the Chinese community, as they recognize FUD..."

The fact that 元宝网 (yuanbao.com) exchange is missing from the platforms supporting the ICO is a good sign. Questions, basic questions might be being asked of the Qtum team now in China.

Missing, you say?

https://qtum.org/qtum-crowdsale-update/



Liu Yang aka Edward aka Leon of yuanbao.com recently had an article penned about Qtum on his BitKan site: http://bitkan.com/news/topic/27661

further ref.: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1566741.0
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2. Given the high-profile third-party backing, it is unlikely Qtum is a scam.

What they fail to mention, among myriad other things, is that some of them so-called high-profile third-party investors were associates of Qtum's principals way prior to the advent of Qtum itself, they now deeply ingrained in the team looking after their respective investments, if they exist, till they ROI off the projected $10M payday of the non-profit entity based in Singapore, catering the end project to the Chinese, yet catering its ICO to Westerners because we're easily impressed by feet-solving Rubik's Cubers, watching professional poker players in $0.50 buy-in online poker tournaments, and elephants.
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March 03, 2017, 11:20:29 PM
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I still cant trust this project after all the accusations, and after all the failures to answer and clear them.
At this point I believe they will keep going with the ICO and scam as much people as they can, because some people will certainly be caught in the trap and some wont mind betting a couple usd.
Lets wait for more info

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March 04, 2017, 01:23:47 AM
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https://www.sgpbusiness.com/company/Qtum-Foundation-Ltd



Now, before I continue, I MUST emphasize that I NO NOT possess a B.B.A. like the venerable Leroy Fodor of StakeMiners and RateCoin has, but I still have the ability to ready at age 56, turning 57 tomorrow, March 4. That said, ...

http://www.by-cpa.com/html/news/20095/1392.html

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A Limited Exempt Private Company is exempted from audit of its financial statements if all the following conditions are met:

(1)   Financial period commences on or after 15 May 2003 and the company’s revenue is not more than 2.5 million, or;

Financial period commences on 1st June 2004 and the company’s revenue is not more than 5 million;
(2)   Proper accounting records are maintained.
(3)   The Financial Statements are prepared according to Singapore’s Financial Reporting Standards (FRS) for submission to IRAS.
(4)   An audit is not requested by:
a.   Shareholders holding not less than 5% interest in the Company’s share capital; or
b.   Registrar of Companies and Businesses (ACRA), or
c.   Other Government Authorities/Financial Institutions/Creditors.

Again, since I didn't spend over a hundred grand to earn a business degree like Chantha Owen Lueung of Crypto-city did, thus my math may be a tad shaky, in the spirit of the Team Respectonomy allow me to ask just one question: Isn't $10M a morer biggerer number than $5M, the former amount projected to garner via Qtum's ICO off the backs of Westerners to build the ultimate crypto thingy to be used chiefly by the Chinese having its non-profit Charter in Singapore which restricts revenue amounts above the latter, namely $5M?

BTW, my math is so rusty that somebody else gets to have the honors of converting $5M Singapore dollar thingies to USD. Here's the current exchange rate: 1 Singapore Dollar equals 0.71 US Dollar.

In closing, just one word:


"Cocksuckeroverflow!"
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Hello Qtum Community,


As we move closer to releasing the crowd sale information, we'll be posting daily updates on our various channels to keep everyone up to date on the progress being made.

We'll start by going over the technical overview of Jordan Earlz' movie that shows some of the features Qtum is working on. We'll post the video first, and then break it down into segments because it's very technical.

We will also host a technical Q&A session on our Slack, March 7th, 8pm Beijing time.

edit, we will also release our updated technical whitepaper shortly

First off, we will respond to the attacks on the Western channels, and then we will ramp up the amount of content that gets released. We expect there to be reputable press sites that write about our progress, so we'll post those articles here as well.






Questions are now regarded as fud Cry

Evidence is dismissed as fud.

To Earlz I followed your development for around 3 years, I am upset that the community you were aligned with, you now regard as toxic. When Bitcointalk is probably the best site on the internet for due diligence and community ideology with regard to crypto tech and blockchain tech. I have no idea why you think of us as non - rationale parties. You were a part of this foundation and now you dismiss us so easily. It is not right.


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March 04, 2017, 02:38:54 AM
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but I still have the ability to ready at age 56, turning 57 tomorrow, March 4. That said, ...

Not sure you do, you sound like a 7 years old tbh!

Anyway happy birthday dickhead  Grin
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Hello Qtum Community,


As we move closer to releasing the crowd sale information, we'll be posting daily updates on our various channels to keep everyone up to date on the progress being made.

We'll start by going over the technical overview of Jordan Earlz' movie that shows some of the features Qtum is working on. We'll post the video first, and then break it down into segments because it's very technical.

We will also host a technical Q&A session on our Slack, March 7th, 8pm Beijing time.

edit, we will also release our updated technical whitepaper shortly

First off, we will respond to the attacks on the Western channels, and then we will ramp up the amount of content that gets released. We expect there to be reputable press sites that write about our progress, so we'll post those articles here as well.






Questions are now regarded as fud Cry

Evidence is dismissed as fud.

To Earlz I followed your development for around 3 years, I am upset that the community you were aligned with, you now regard as toxic. When Bitcointalk is probably the best site on the internet for due diligence and community ideology with regard to crypto tech and blockchain tech. I have no idea why you think of us as non - rationale parties. You were a part of this foundation and now you dismiss us so easily. It is not right.



Normal IQ people know they are real proofs can prove Patrick Dai is a scammer, Angel Backers are retarded too, they don't withdraw the invest, and still support this obvious scam project.
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March 04, 2017, 02:54:18 AM
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http://coinjournal.net/ver-backed-qtum-started-bitbay-dai/

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How Did Qtum Get So Much Attention?

As is so often the case in the cryptocurrency world: Shitty journalism led to its ride. The actions of the bitcoin media is almost understandable. After all, many probably assume that if the likes of Ver are involved, then it must have been vetted by someone. But the truth could be that the Angel Investors are depending on the media.

The first mention of Qtum in a semi-reputable cryptocurrency news site comes from CryptoCoinNews. Their article mentions Qtum winning a hack-a-thon prize hosted by ChainB.

The following is a snippet of that linked-to article:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-based-identity-project-uport-wins-the-blockchain-competition/


The above image - Image Credits Qtum; all other images in the article - Image Credits Event Organizers

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Not all winning projects were eth based. Qtum is a new blockchain that, according to Patrick Dai, CTO, complements both bitcoin and ethereum’s blockchain. Speaking to CCN, Dai states:

“Qtum will become the first UTXO model based smart contract platform. Different from Rootstock, Qtum is using the Incentive proof of stake as the consensus protocol,also Qtum support EVM. We also divide the blockchain contract to Smart Contract and Master Contract. Through real world data feeds, you can build the Master Contract on QtumChain. We also offer identity on Qtum Blockchain. Qtum add value both to Bitcoin ecosystem and Ethereum ecosystem.”

They have signed a strategic partnership with PwC China, and recently signed a service contract with the world’s largest freight company for the use of VeChain, another project by the team, to better manage supply chains by adding blockchain capabilities to minimize fraud and theft.

VeChain.com is a site own by Johnson Dai, registered prior to the advent of Bitcoin.

So, Qtum won an award at a ChainB sponsored event. I wonder how much Qtum paid to have ChainB post the following on its website: http://chainb.com/?P=Home


For Investards playing at home scratching their heads wondering how much Qtum paid ChainB for the article, I'll once again save you the fuckin headaches.

Gong Ming is the founder of ChainB. For us moronic Westerners, Gong Ming is ofttimes referred to as James Gong. But who the fuck is James Gong, you ask this two-bit Sherlock wannabe (quoting cocksuckeroverflow)?

Here is James ... James Gong: <all the following is a reposing of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720632.msg18031127#msg18031127 because Investards are special>

https://qtum.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Qtum_blockchain_economy_whitepaper_20170217_EN.pdf

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The members of the first Judgement Committee have extensive experience in the
blockchain industry. A brief introduction of the committee members is listed below:




ChainB is a news outlet owned by Bo and James: https://twitter.com/chainb_



Bo Shen and James Gong also own ICOAGE Limited Co. and ... wait for it ...



... BitconMagzine.com (emphasis on CON).

For retards scratchin' their heads wondering what the connection to Qtum is besides what's expressed above the fold, this ...

https://qtum.org/qtum-crowdsale-update/

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The Qtum team has been working very hard to prepare for the upcoming crowdsale. Although the official date and other details are yet to be published (will come soon), we are so excited to announce that you will be able to participate in our crowdsale through any of the following channels.

1. Bizhongchou (bizhongchou.com)
2. Yunbi (yunbi.com)
3. Yuanbao (www.yuanbao.com)
4. ICO365 (www.ico365.com)
5. ICOAGE (icoage.com)
6. Qtum official crowdsale website (crowdsale.qtum.org) – coming soon

Genius, eh? Not only do you have the media and exchanges literally in their back pocket, but Qtum insiders handle and control the ICO - sans escrow - news outlet sites as well.

And, in case you're wondering, YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT THAT BOTH BO AND JAMES SIGNED OFF ON NOT FINDING ANY WRONGDOINGS RE PATRICK DAI ET AL.!

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More ico site are under control by the qtum team and more money will get by them. So, it's really bullshit.

Ansthares has tried to offer a new idea at the past time, but this time he was like a piece of shit with thousands btc disappear.

This will be the another shit.  Grin



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March 04, 2017, 04:14:18 AM
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The project has received support from a number of notable entrepreneurs in the cryptocurrency and blockchain space including ethereum founder Anthony Di Iorio, OKCoin CEO Star Xu, BitFund founder Xiaolai Li and Fenbushi partner Bo Shen.

Bitfund, the same outfit who brought you Sfards: http://www.bitfundpe.com/



Bitfund, the same outfit who brought you YUNBI: http://www.bitfundpe.com/



Bitfund, the same outfit who now brings you Qtum, but has yet to mention Qtum on its platform in spite of its CEO, Xiaolai Li, investing in Qtum: http://www.bitfundpe.com/ (more on Li later, but here's a teaser: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/fenbushi-capital#/entity)

Since Investards are so special, it's time to once again recount (that means revisit or see again): https://qtum.org/qtum-crowdsale-update/

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Qtum Crowdsale Update

The Qtum team has been working very hard to prepare for the upcoming crowdsale. Although the official date and other details are yet to be published (will come soon), we are so excited to announce that you will be able to participate in our crowdsale through any of the following channels.

1. Bizhongchou (bizhongchou.com)
2. Yunbi (yunbi.com)
3. Yuanbao (www.yuanbao.com)
4. ICO365 (www.ico365.com)
5. ICOAGE (icoage.com)
6. Qtum official crowdsale website (crowdsale.qtum.org) – coming soon


<pause, so that the Investards playing at home can take a hit off their one-hitters in preparing themselves for what The Gleb is 'bout to spring on them next>

http://www.innospace.com.cn/actActivity/detail.htm?id=2aab6646f6bc11e39f3d00155d00ad28

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【Presenter】
Xu Yiji - Bit Fund (bitfund.pe) Shanghai Leader, 2014 World Cup Global Summit (Beijing) sponsor, former Google search engine anti-cheating team members.

【Mail Registration】:
Bitcoin Fund, Xu Yiji: hitters.xu@gmail.com
InnoSpace, Mr. Shao: stanley.shao@shuion.com.cn
Hotline: 65107878-829

Who is Xu Yiji of hitters.xu@gmail.com, you ask while coughing up a lung?

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Domain Name: ico365.com
Registry Domain ID: 2034467145_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: grs-whois.hichina.com
Registrar URL: http://whois.aliyun.com/
Updated Date: 2016-12-30T01:59:57Z
Creation Date: 2016-06-08T13:18:36Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-06-08T13:18:36Z
Registrar: HICHINA ZHICHENG TECHNOLOGY LTD.
Registrar IANA ID: 420
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok http://www.icann.org/epp#OK
Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: ZHOU SHUOJI
Registrant Organization: Shen Zhen Zhong Lian Ke Ji You Xian Gong Si
Registrant Street: Nan Shan Qu Yue Hai Jie Dao Ke Yuan Lu 18Hao Bei Ke Da Sha 8009Shi
Registrant City: shen shi
Registrant State/Province: guang dong
Registrant Postal Code: 518054
Registrant Country: CN
Registrant Phone: +86.18811633544
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +86.18811633544
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: zhousj@p2ppe.com

Billing Name: YIJI XU
Billing Organization: hitters
Billing Street: shanghaishi tianlinlu 192 3 lou
Billing City: shang hai shi
Billing State/Province: shang hai
Billing Postal Code: 200060
Billing Country: CN
Billing Phone: +86.2159188305
Billing Phone Ext:
Billing Fax: +86.2159188305
Billing Fax Ext:
Billing Email: hitters.xu@gmail.com

Which brings us back to ...

https://qtum.org/qtum-crowdsale-update/

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Qtum Crowdsale Update

The Qtum team has been working very hard to prepare for the upcoming crowdsale. Although the official date and other details are yet to be published (will come soon), we are so excited to announce that you will be able to participate in our crowdsale through any of the following channels.

1. Bizhongchou (bizhongchou.com)
2. Yunbi (yunbi.com)
3. Yuanbao (www.yuanbao.com)
4. ICO365 (www.ico365.com)
5. ICOAGE (icoage.com)
6. Qtum official crowdsale website (crowdsale.qtum.org) – coming soon

Unless you're in Camp Cocksuckeroverflow, it's suffice to now say that Team Qtum (AND I MEAN ALL THE TEAM MEMBERS) put all their ducks in a row prior to announcing Qtum, some of the tech already, or in the process of being built over at Bitse and VeChain, rebranding the tech under the auspices of Qtum.

How fuckin close am I?
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Revisiting Global Blockchain Summit in Shanghai where Qtum won an award, GLOBAL-BLOCKCHAIN-SUMMIT.COM was registered by ... wait for it ...

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Domain Status: ok http://www.icann.org/epp#OK
Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name:  YIJI XU
Registrant Organization: hitters
Registrant Street: shanghaishi tianlinlu 192 3 lou,,
Registrant City: shang hai shi
Registrant State/Province: shang hai
Registrant Postal Code: 200060
Registrant Country: CN
Registrant Phone: +86.02159188305
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +86.02159188305
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: hitters.xu@gmail.com

Put that in Matt Carson's hookah and take a hit:

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March 04, 2017, 04:50:36 AM
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Where can we see how many BTC have been raised so far in the ICO?

And why don't the knuckleheads behind this project have this information clearly displayed in the OP?
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March 04, 2017, 05:21:02 AM
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Where can we see how many BTC have been raised so far in the ICO?

And why don't the knuckleheads behind this project have this information clearly displayed in the OP?

No place you can find how many BTC have been raised because ICO has not started yet, it is delayed. They are liars, they try to hide dark side information, why show us?
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