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I find it astonishing over the years these individuals and groups tell about the fabulous technologies they want to deploy. Yet they can't make a testnet or emulation of the coin/project before and see if it is something that would work overtime. They first need our money conveniently to do it! Not the backers behind them worth millions.The Qtum reminds me of the recent BitLand project in this observation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434155.0They were asked why not try to simulate/test or do a smaller project with a smaller state. You know, before trying to deploy the blockchain/node across Africa. Bitland even had Ronny and others backing it! Qtum has several million to try and testnet even before deployment and the talent supposedly to do it. Yet they still need an ICO. |
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I find it astonishing over the years these individuals and groups tell about the fabulous technologies they want to deploy. Yet they can't make a testnet or emulation of the coin/project before and see if it is something that would work overtime. They first need our money conveniently to do it! Not the backers behind them worth millions.The Qtum reminds me of the recent BitLand project in this observation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434155.0They were asked why not try to simulate/test or do a smaller project with a smaller state. You know, before trying to deploy the blockchain/node across Africa. Bitland even had Ronny and others backing it! Qtum has several million to try and testnet even before deployment and the talent supposedly to do it. Yet they still need an ICO. As I've pointed out here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720632.msg18089204#msg18089204 (revisited verbatim below the horizontal line) - prior to obtaining Angel Backers, Team Qtum already had hundreds of thousands of dollars in their coffer, liquidated most of said amount, received a million dollars more from Angels, then used that money to spread lies about their endeavor up to and including during its ICO in amassing tens of millions of dollars more sourced from where, currently held also where? Does PwC own the Chinese exchanges where the Qtum token's reside till who-knows-when?
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d38da05c72761402?page=2 ^^^ On November 28, 2016, Qtum had exactly 830 BTC in their coffer equating to ~$610,880 at the then current exchange rate. https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/51f9c3a755299425a38e119c068f3997f08fe3c60caab53cfbbea7b9dfd8c66a ^^^ On January 1, 2017, Qtum transferred to Star Xu's OKCoin exactly 500 BTC equating to ~$491,465 at the then current exchange rate as depicted below: https://blockchain.info/tx/51f9c3a755299425a38e119c068f3997f08fe3c60caab53cfbbea7b9dfd8c66a 10 days later on January 11, 2017, Qtum secures seed funding of $1M from 4 investors, one of which is Star Xu of OKCoin: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/qtum#/entity On the very same day (1-11-17), Pete Rizzo of CoinDesk published the announcement, of which includes the following: http://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-angels-invest-1-million-bitcoin-ethereum-hybrid-qtum/Patrick Dai, founder of the Qtum Foundation, indicated that the $1m will now help his team to prepare the infrastructure necessary to sell the tokens in a public initial coin offering (ICO), or a public sale of unique cryptographic tokens to investors.
Dai told CoinDesk:
"We raised the money to prove that our approach is right. We used the money to do the minimum viable product. The testnet is live now, but it is private, it is already working."
Dai said that the Qtum Foundation could seek to raise up to $10m in the token offering. Don't you find it odd that in 9 days back in November 2016, Qtum was able to amass over $600K worth of bitcoins from who-knows-where, then a month later covert 500 BTC to cash via OKCoin, to only 10 days later receiving a million dollars in Angle seed funding from the very dude, among others, Qtum just handed over $491K+ to? Or am I mistaken, the 1qtum1H39JbLjkBZGg4HVsrt9KD6FMS3g BWA belongs to Qtum's twin brother, Qtime?  "Bruno thinks that we shovel up the elephant shit in our office, when in fact we just let it pile up, pretending it doesn't exist. To have more room, we simply used some the million dollars donated to us by Angel investors to knock out a few walls so to extend our office in accommodating more elephants and piles of shit." |
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Is the Qtum crowdsale still live? Thanks
I also notice that bizhongchou only seems to have a payment option for eth is that all that they accept?
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LOL on this qtum scam
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Is the Qtum crowdsale still live? Thanks
I also notice that bizhongchou only seems to have a payment option for eth is that all that they accept?
Yes, ETH above the table, BTC below the table.  Meanwhile, I sure as hope I didn't ruin cocksuckeroverflow's other investment with the below: https://centerfoldscabaretlv.com/#contactI just spoke with a rep at Centerfolds Cabaret via 702-767-8757 and she assured me that there's NO The Legends Room replacing Centerfolds, and also that she has received several other calls on this matter and bitcoin. Call yourself to verify. The website now looks like the following: https://legendsroomlv.com/ |
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Is the Qtum crowdsale still live? Thanks
I also notice that bizhongchou only seems to have a payment option for eth is that all that they accept?
I am surprised you still want to invest in Qtum.Perhaps you have lots of money to throw away or you are some shill account for Qtum. Btw Qtum crowdsale is going to start few hours from now if you are still keen to invest. |
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I find it astonishing over the years these individuals and groups tell about the fabulous technologies they want to deploy. Yet they can't make a testnet or emulation of the coin/project before and see if it is something that would work overtime. They first need our money conveniently to do it! Not the backers behind them worth millions.The Qtum reminds me of the recent BitLand project in this observation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1434155.0They were asked why not try to simulate/test or do a smaller project with a smaller state. You know, before trying to deploy the blockchain/node across Africa. Bitland even had Ronny and others backing it! Qtum has several million to try and testnet even before deployment and the talent supposedly to do it. Yet they still need an ICO. As I've pointed out here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720632.msg18089204#msg18089204 (revisited verbatim below the horizontal line) - prior to obtaining Angel Backers, Team Qtum already had hundreds of thousands of dollars in their coffer, liquidated most of said amount, received a million dollars more from Angels, then used that money to spread lies about their endeavor up to and including during its ICO in amassing tens of millions of dollars more sourced from where, currently held also where? Does PwC own the Chinese exchanges where the Qtum token's reside till who-knows-when?
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d38da05c72761402?page=2^^^ On November 28, 2016, Qtum had exactly 830 BTC in their coffer equating to ~$610,880 at the then current exchange rate. https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/51f9c3a755299425a38e119c068f3997f08fe3c60caab53cfbbea7b9dfd8c66a^^^ On January 1, 2017, Qtum transferred to Star Xu's OKCoin exactly 500 BTC equating to ~$491,465 at the then current exchange rate as depicted below: https://blockchain.info/tx/51f9c3a755299425a38e119c068f3997f08fe3c60caab53cfbbea7b9dfd8c66a10 days later on January 11, 2017, Qtum secures seed funding of $1M from 4 investors, one of which is Star Xu of OKCoin: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/qtum#/entityOn the very same day (1-11-17), Pete Rizzo of CoinDesk published the announcement, of which includes the following: http://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-angels-invest-1-million-bitcoin-ethereum-hybrid-qtum/Patrick Dai, founder of the Qtum Foundation, indicated that the $1m will now help his team to prepare the infrastructure necessary to sell the tokens in a public initial coin offering (ICO), or a public sale of unique cryptographic tokens to investors.
Dai told CoinDesk:
"We raised the money to prove that our approach is right. We used the money to do the minimum viable product. The testnet is live now, but it is private, it is already working."
Dai said that the Qtum Foundation could seek to raise up to $10m in the token offering. Don't you find it odd that in 9 days back in November 2016, Qtum was able to amass over $600K worth of bitcoins from who-knows-where, then a month later covert 500 BTC to cash via OKCoin, to only 10 days later receiving a million dollars in Angle seed funding from the very dude, among others, Qtum just handed over $491K+ to? Or am I mistaken, the 1qtum1H39JbLjkBZGg4HVsrt9KD6FMS3g BWA belongs to Qtum's twin brother, Qtime? I feel your onto something Gleb. The Qtum team, with their complex testnet, are some lost cylons (reboot: skin jobs). How else can we see multiple people, with multiple names, claiming to be the same people? |
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Team Qtum: PwC has remitted to our bank $10,000 USD to reimburse us for the purchase of black t-shirts depicting our logo, now worn by members of our entire staff. To save costs, the logo is also in black, albeit we did spend a tad extra to print the logo on the back, front, inside and outside the t-shirts.
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Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.
Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware. |
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March 17, 2017, 02:40:46 AM |
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The few trolls who desperately tried to discredit this projects are going crazy right now, because the crowdsale was a success You only discredited yourselves! This project is bigger than you  |
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March 17, 2017, 02:58:43 AM |
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Is ICO already ended? Big success here, regardless of the scandals of scamming, hehe, be careful of your fund, your may lose money.
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March 17, 2017, 03:07:44 AM |
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Why are people so quick to call Qtum a scam, what happened? The crowdsale JUST started. Also, the tokens are ridiculously cheap - around 30 cents per token.
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March 17, 2017, 03:29:40 AM |
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I'm still in shock that Qtum's Chinese Slack channel is a ghost town, yet the majority of Qtum's Investardums came from China according to Team Qtum.
That, and over its lifetime the hashtag #Qtum was used ONLY 1,447 times on Twitter with a reach in China of ONLY 1.87% compared to the US at ~29% with its citizens not allowed to participate in Qtum's ICO ...
Have you considered that you are the investardum if you're using twitter as your metric for a country in which twitter is banned? The primary forms of social media communication in China are via Weibo and Wechat, why would you ever look at Twitter or Slack? |
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March 17, 2017, 03:35:52 AM |
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Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.
Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware. Even if what you say is true, having been to China and seeing the stuff people will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in, I honestly think there was more than enough demand to have sold this out in only a couple hours. I know people there who've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on rock collections and jade and other similar nonsense just because there aren't sufficient investment options in China. And since all the other developers know about this guy's history I'm sure they're watching him more closely than they otherwise would, so presumably he wouldn't be able to pull anything like that unless he has everyone colluding on it-given the supposed investors involved I would seriously doubt that he could pull this off unless he wants to end up in a Chinese gulag. It's one thing to rip off random people on the internet, but if you rip off a founder of Kuaidi you'll end up in a bad place real quick. Anyways, the ICO is over anyways so it is what it is. At this point let's just see if Qtum actually develops into something interesting or if I just wasted a few thousand bucks. |
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Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.
Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware. Even if what you say is true, having been to China and seeing the stuff people will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in, I honestly think there was more than enough demand to have sold this out in only a couple hours. I know people there who've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on rock collections and jade and other similar nonsense just because there aren't sufficient investment options in China. And since all the other developers know about this guy's history I'm sure they're watching him more closely than they otherwise would, so presumably he wouldn't be able to pull anything like that unless he has everyone colluding on it-given the supposed investors involved I would seriously doubt that he could pull this off unless he wants to end up in a Chinese gulag. It's one thing to rip off random people on the internet, but if you rip off a founder of Kuaidi you'll end up in a bad place real quick. Anyways, the ICO is over anyways so it is what it is. At this point let's just see if Qtum actually develops into something interesting or if I just wasted a few thousand bucks. Isnt the ICO still at 67%? Its not over isnt it? |
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Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.
Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware. Even if what you say is true, having been to China and seeing the stuff people will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in, I honestly think there was more than enough demand to have sold this out in only a couple hours. I know people there who've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on rock collections and jade and other similar nonsense just because there aren't sufficient investment options in China. And since all the other developers know about this guy's history I'm sure they're watching him more closely than they otherwise would, so presumably he wouldn't be able to pull anything like that unless he has everyone colluding on it-given the supposed investors involved I would seriously doubt that he could pull this off unless he wants to end up in a Chinese gulag. It's one thing to rip off random people on the internet, but if you rip off a founder of Kuaidi you'll end up in a bad place real quick. Anyways, the ICO is over anyways so it is what it is. At this point let's just see if Qtum actually develops into something interesting or if I just wasted a few thousand bucks. Isnt the ICO still at 67%? Its not over isnt it? It's not over yet, but will probably be sold out soon. |
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Just curious, anyone have any experience with ICO365? Being a foreigner , I got lost in the process.
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Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.
Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware. Even if what you say is true, having been to China and seeing the stuff people will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in, I honestly think there was more than enough demand to have sold this out in only a couple hours. I know people there who've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on rock collections and jade and other similar nonsense just because there aren't sufficient investment options in China. And since all the other developers know about this guy's history I'm sure they're watching him more closely than they otherwise would, so presumably he wouldn't be able to pull anything like that unless he has everyone colluding on it-given the supposed investors involved I would seriously doubt that he could pull this off unless he wants to end up in a Chinese gulag. It's one thing to rip off random people on the internet, but if you rip off a founder of Kuaidi you'll end up in a bad place real quick. Anyways, the ICO is over anyways so it is what it is. At this point let's just see if Qtum actually develops into something interesting or if I just wasted a few thousand bucks. Well when he screwed us at BitBay he was in on it with Lin from BTER who used phantom BTC to fund it and Bobsurplus and Gekko. And what I'm saying is true, its all over Bitcointalk it was famous. I dealt with him first hand and he said he would stay and he didn't and kept the funds he got. Luckily he is out of BitBay now but watch your ass. And any project that sells all that in 90 minutes is paying themselves. I've seen this with my own eyes man on the project that I have now taken over. Do you seriously think rich people don't work together to steal from people?? There is no oversight the devs have into Patrick, at best they will have a multisig assuming the exchanges don't refund Patrick first. How do you think they got rich in the first place? By lying. And just so you know, as long as Dais partners are secretive about their refunds it can go 10+ years unnoticed. Look at Enron... that company didn't even exist and was making billions for untold amounts of years. And how long did Bernie Madoff make money off people?? Maybe you haven't been paying attention. But I'm not going to fight any investors here, I've already said I will stay out of it. You have all been clearly told what goes on. If you want to gamble nobody is stopping you. Dai can shit gold bricks but that won't change what he is. This is what I've been giving my life to fight. To prevent deception using double deposit escrow. Sadly the only way to stop guys like Dai is with a barbed club. |
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March 17, 2017, 04:37:27 AM |
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Qtum Update:
From Bitcoinmagazine.com, regarding Bloqlabs
Introducing BloqLabs
According to Garzik, BloqLabs aspires to set the tone for blockchain technology, ensuring that enterprises are embracing innovations from the community’s robust ecosystem of developers.
As such, BloqLabs will support and help to develop several key projects and platforms. The initial cohort of supported projects will include Drivechain, Qtum, VeriBlock, bitcoinj and the Android Bitcoin Wallet.
by Michael Scott Two announcements from the DC Blockchain Summit came from Bloq, a pioneer in the development of enterprise-grade blockchain solutions. First, the company announced the creation of BloqLabs to boost its ongoing sponsorship while bringing support to viable open-source projects in the Bitcoin and blockchain space.
Second, Bloq revealed that it will be joining the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance (EEA), an alliance that connects Fortune 500 enterprises, startups, academics and technology vendors with Ethereum thought leaders and experts. Bloq Co-Founder and CEO Jeff Garzik has been appointed to the alliance’s Technical Steering Board.
Introducing BloqLabs
According to Garzik, BloqLabs aspires to set the tone for blockchain technology, ensuring that enterprises are embracing innovations from the community’s robust ecosystem of developers.
As such, BloqLabs will support and help to develop several key projects and platforms. The initial cohort of supported projects will include Drivechain, Qtum, VeriBlock, bitcoinj and the Android Bitcoin Wallet.
“Open source is at the core of Bloq’s DNA, as both a patron and developer,” said Andreas Schildbach, developer at Bloq and the developer of the first bitcoin wallet for Android. He also maintains the bitcoinj repository primarily used in bitcoin wallets and transaction services globally. “I'm grateful for Bloq sponsoring work in open source blockchain software.”
Paul Sztorc, an economist at Bloq and chief architect behind Drivechain, concurred. “The record is clear: open source is the way to go — it’s better, faster and more secure,” he said. “I’m thrilled to have Bloq sponsor the project; few companies are this generous.”
“Businesses have been exploring blockchain technology for years now, but without widespread adoption,” said Patrick Dai, co-founder of the Qtum Project, another early recipient of BloqLabs’ support. “BloqLabs aligns with Qtum’s goal to bridge the gap between the business and technical worlds with open-source solutions that meet the commercial needs for privacy, security and, most importantly, usability.”
“BloqLabs will serve as the platform for deeper engagement between enterprises and the open source community, just like Bell Labs and Xerox Parc did for networks and technologies we use every day,” Garzik said to Bitcoin Magazine. “We’re excited to be kicking off BloqLabs with such a diverse group of projects and established leaders in bitcoin and blockchain [technology].”
Joining Forces With the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance
Further emphasizing Bloq’s commitment to broader blockchain solutions, Bloq has joined the company of Microsoft, J.P. Morgan, BNY Mellon, BG, ING, Thomson Reuters and ConsenSys, as a member of the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance. Garzik has also accepted a position on the Technical Steering Board of the alliance.
Announced on February 28, 2017, the mandate of the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance is to build, promote and broadly support Ethereum-based technology.
“Initiatives like the EEA and BloqLabs will be critical to connecting enterprises with open source blockchain innovation,” said Garzik. “We’re thrilled to contribute our time, energy and insights to this project, and I’m honored to be appointed to the Technical Steering Board.”
“Jeff [Garzik] is a legend of the open source community and has been one of the most prominent advocates for strong technical governance of public blockchains,” said Jeremy Millar, chief of staff of ConsenSys and board member of the EEA. “Combined with his experiences from the Linux Foundation, Red Hat and Bitcoin Core, Jeff is a tremendous addition to our technical leadership.”
Bloq delivers blockchain technology solutions for global enterprises. Its software platform enables companies to build, manage and scale solid blockchain-enabled ecosystems, all backed by enterprise-grade service and support.
Led by a team of world-class blockchain developers, entrepreneurs and investors, the company utilizes open-source technology, providing key linkages for secure interoperability with prevailing business systems. Its technology targets critical business issues surrounding security, provenance, authentication and reconciliation.
Over the past five months, Bloq has been in a major expansion mode, having acquired blockchain analytics pioneer Skry as well as co-launching Vulcan Digital Asset Services. The latter is a platform that gives digital assets utility for everyday banking, commerce and assets services, through PwC Australia.
Michael Scott is a full-time freelance writer specializing in the areas of blockchain technology, cryptocurrency and digital cities. He is currently located in Denver, Colorado. |
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