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February 24, 2017, 05:00:07 AM
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Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this
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February 24, 2017, 05:58:21 AM
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Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

This is entertaining to see the paid trolls come out and not a single one has provided any proof. Looks like Mr. Dia was once part of BitBay but moved on. Even from the BitBay founders comments from 2 years ago it all looked good. Now why the sudden change of events?
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February 24, 2017, 06:43:44 AM
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Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

This is entertaining to see the paid trolls come out and not a single one has provided any proof. Looks like Mr. Dia was once part of BitBay but moved on. Even from the BitBay founders comments from 2 years ago it all looked good. Now why the sudden change of events?

Yea! Patrick Dai didn't steal 200 BTC because there's no proof. Just a bunch of trustworthy Bitcoiners making bogus claims. Fake news! If real, Gavin Andresen would've said so.

Meanwhile, ethtrades' website is still down. Make that all three of their websites. Damn you, CNN!
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February 24, 2017, 07:02:45 AM
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scam alert
The team is made up of several of China's most famous crooks, investors suffered huge losses from previous projects


It is becoming a mess, qtum. If Patrick Dai won't refund scammed 200 BTC to the bitbay's dev team, and never make the promises of the other project he scammed(forgot the name). They won't get more money, angry.
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February 24, 2017, 07:11:25 AM
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Where is the proof that he scammed 200 btc ? Give address and proof that he holds the address
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February 24, 2017, 08:16:09 AM
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Where is the proof that he scammed 200 btc ? Give address and proof that he holds the address

I think there's more evidence to come that Patrick Dai is actually a guy called Steven Dai who is a known ICO scammer...
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February 24, 2017, 11:51:42 AM
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Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

This is entertaining to see the paid trolls come out and not a single one has provided any proof. Looks like Mr. Dia was once part of BitBay but moved on. Even from the BitBay founders comments from 2 years ago it all looked good. Now why the sudden change of events?
Who are they getting paid from?I have seen similar FUD in ICONOMI official ANN thread before the start of Melonport Crowdsale.The fudsters succeed in bring down ICN price to substantial level.
I think any other project schedule to launch in March want to see Qtum fail.
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February 24, 2017, 12:02:33 PM
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Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

This is entertaining to see the paid trolls come out and not a single one has provided any proof. Looks like Mr. Dia was once part of BitBay but moved on. Even from the BitBay founders comments from 2 years ago it all looked good. Now why the sudden change of events?
Who are they getting paid from?I have seen similar FUD in ICONOMI official ANN thread before the start of Melonport Crowdsale.The fudsters succeed in bring down ICN price to substantial level.
I think any other project schedule to launch in March want to see Qtum fail.

I would say perhaps other crowdsales. People are able to make an issue from nothing.
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February 24, 2017, 12:27:47 PM
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Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
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February 24, 2017, 01:16:08 PM
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Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
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Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.



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February 24, 2017, 01:48:52 PM
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Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

its too common to give fud for this to others but be conscious for every step of it....
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February 24, 2017, 02:02:51 PM
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Waiting for OP to answer all questions that have been asked

We are very active on Slack, but we're watching Bitcointalk also.

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February 24, 2017, 02:04:52 PM
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Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
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Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.


You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?
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February 24, 2017, 02:14:14 PM
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Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
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Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.


You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?

Where did you learn about Investment? When investing in such an early stage it is the founders abillity to give you roi you gamble on. This is a dealbreaker for QTUM.
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February 24, 2017, 02:44:26 PM
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Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
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Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.


You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?

If you look at our Governance document, you'll see that the Qtum Foundation has more than one decision maker.  The project itself has many people involved.

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February 24, 2017, 02:45:57 PM
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Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
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Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.


You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?

Where did you learn about Investment? When investing in such an early stage it is the founders abillity to give you roi you gamble on. This is a dealbreaker for QTUM.

The "backers" are the only people who have a clear picture of how they will ROI.

Do not confuse participating in an ICO as 'investing', it is at best a speculative gamble, at worse, a donation to line the pockets of people who have no LEGAL binding to deliver anything at all.

Ironically, the whole point of building smart contracts is to build a form of governance and algorithmic accountability. None of which has been used here to give "investors" any form of security or hold the party selling the asset liable.

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February 24, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
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Qtum, Maybe all doubts disappear if you show code of product, and will not make up stories about that it exist. Or provide your documents certifying that you are not fictional characters.

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February 24, 2017, 04:18:05 PM
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I got a question,when will start the qtum crowdsale on their official website,how will this work,if they start it at 10 , i`ll be able to transfer the bitcoin before the sale starts ?


Have you not read what is being said here? There is a proven sacmmer involved here which is a terrible sign for the project. Please consider sending your BTC to me if you dont want it any longer I will put it to good use for you.

I am shocked there was not more DD by the other founders of this project. It is terrible we find out in the last moment but better than after the ICO started.

How is Rodger Ver involved has he already sunk his BTC in this? perhaps he is unaware this person steven dai is involved or is unaware he is a proven scammer. How to warm him asap.

Who is the billionaire investor or does one even really exist?

I heard there were some really big names in BTC involved here which is why I supported it but surely they must do more DD in future.




I.ve read most of the messages but i see that on lots of coins,sometimes when are no doubts about a coin ,then is the biggest scam,till now i didnt see hard evidence to back off

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February 24, 2017, 04:25:54 PM
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well this can get real interesting i will be keeping an eye on it.
has anyone confirmed that roger ver is indeed an investor?
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February 24, 2017, 04:38:12 PM
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well this can get real interesting i will be keeping an eye on it.
has anyone confirmed that roger ver is indeed an investor?
If he is, he has partnered with Star Xu. Funny ole game, huh.
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