[ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable Smart Contract Platform w/ Proof of Stake

[aidia]

Where is the proof that he scammed 200 btc ? Give address and proof that he holds the address

I think there's more evidence to come that Patrick Dai is actually a guy called Steven Dai who is a known ICO scammer...

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[btvGainer]

Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

This is entertaining to see the paid trolls come out and not a single one has provided any proof. Looks like Mr. Dia was once part of BitBay but moved on. Even from the BitBay founders comments from 2 years ago it all looked good. Now why the sudden change of events?

Who are they getting paid from?I have seen similar FUD in ICONOMI official ANN thread before the start of Melonport Crowdsale.The fudsters succeed in bring down ICN price to substantial level.
I think any other project schedule to launch in March want to see Qtum fail.

[Ethertrader1]

Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

This is entertaining to see the paid trolls come out and not a single one has provided any proof. Looks like Mr. Dia was once part of BitBay but moved on. Even from the BitBay founders comments from 2 years ago it all looked good. Now why the sudden change of events?

Who are they getting paid from?I have seen similar FUD in ICONOMI official ANN thread before the start of Melonport Crowdsale.The fudsters succeed in bring down ICN price to substantial level.
I think any other project schedule to launch in March want to see Qtum fail.

I would say perhaps other crowdsales. People are able to make an issue from nothing.

[enunrom]

Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
Thanks

[dbzenhosting]

Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
Thanks

Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.

[bitcoin42r4]

Interesting how FUDsters always wait in the wing for negative news to take a project down. I know some of these people would have called Bitcoin a scam before. Wait for Qtum team to address this issue before forming concrete opinion on this

its too common to give fud for this to others but be conscious for every step of it....

[Qtum]

Waiting for OP to answer all questions that have been asked

We are very active on Slack, but we're watching Bitcointalk also.

[Triload]

Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
Thanks

Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.

You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?

[Zwarg]

Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
Thanks

Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.

You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?

Where did you learn about Investment? When investing in such an early stage it is the founders abillity to give you roi you gamble on. This is a dealbreaker for QTUM.

[Qtum]

Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
Thanks

Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.

You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?

If you look at our Governance document, you'll see that the Qtum Foundation has more than one decision maker.  The project itself has many people involved.

[dbzenhosting]

Can someone show evidence that this is a scam project? or this is only accusation without any proofs.
Thanks

Nobody is accusing the project of being a scam!

People are making allegations that Patrick is a known scammer previously operating under a different alias.

It is up to you whether you trust your money to someone with questionable history.

It is besides the point that large companies and other backers have done (albeit weak) due diligence.

Moreover, it is a greater concern if following their due diligence process, they consider it "not a concern" regarding his history, in which case, should further evidence be unveiled that Patrick is indeed guilty, then their association with him would be a major detriment to themselves as well as all parties who may know the truth but choose to side with him for the benefit of themselves.

You are right, no one accuses this project is scam, but accused the co-founder of qtum was a scammer. But I think it won't affect a lot of funding, because people don't only invest him, right?

Where did you learn about Investment? When investing in such an early stage it is the founders abillity to give you roi you gamble on. This is a dealbreaker for QTUM.

The "backers" are the only people who have a clear picture of how they will ROI.

Do not confuse participating in an ICO as 'investing', it is at best a speculative gamble, at worse, a donation to line the pockets of people who have no LEGAL binding to deliver anything at all.

Ironically, the whole point of building smart contracts is to build a form of governance and algorithmic accountability. None of which has been used here to give "investors" any form of security or hold the party selling the asset liable.

[Densitymax]

Qtum, Maybe all doubts disappear if you show code of product, and will not make up stories about that it exist. Or provide your documents certifying that you are not fictional characters.

[MofoMF]

I got a question,when will start the qtum crowdsale on their official website,how will this work,if they start it at 10 , i`ll be able to transfer the bitcoin before the sale starts ?

Have you not read what is being said here? There is a proven sacmmer involved here which is a terrible sign for the project. Please consider sending your BTC to me if you dont want it any longer I will put it to good use for you.

I am shocked there was not more DD by the other founders of this project. It is terrible we find out in the last moment but better than after the ICO started.

How is Rodger Ver involved has he already sunk his BTC in this? perhaps he is unaware this person steven dai is involved or is unaware he is a proven scammer. How to warm him asap.

Who is the billionaire investor or does one even really exist?

I heard there were some really big names in BTC involved here which is why I supported it but surely they must do more DD in future.

I.ve read most of the messages but i see that on lots of coins,sometimes when are no doubts about a coin ,then is the biggest scam,till now i didnt see hard evidence to back off

[titibach]

well this can get real interesting i will be keeping an eye on it.
has anyone confirmed that roger ver is indeed an investor?

[stereotype]

well this can get real interesting i will be keeping an eye on it.
has anyone confirmed that roger ver is indeed an investor?

If he is, he has partnered with Star Xu. Funny ole game, huh.

[cybterpunk]

a lot of people accuse satoshi and vitalik is a scammer. 

[jacaf01]

well this can get real interesting i will be keeping an eye on it.
has anyone confirmed that roger ver is indeed an investor?

Yes he is an investors, he is the owner of bitcoin.com  or so, and there was a disclaimer on one of the news article I read that He is one of the investors in Qtum project

[cybterpunk]

where is the dev?

Im here.

Bob is an extortionist and him and his loser friend Gekko were part of the project, they were kicked off and then they threw a giant shitfit.

They kept threatening everyone for coins. And i just was tired of it and finally explained it. They were threatening to "ruin my reputation" and in reality it only makes them look like total fools.

They are also thieves too and they sent fake bills to the person who hired me. They threatened him and he gave them Bay in response which they dumped and laughed about it.

When I finally got them to leave, i wanted to focus on developement this is the only reason i was late with the wallet. Because the working conditions were absurdly stupid.

It certainly was not my coin but i was hired and didnt know who on earth these guys were before going on the project. I thought i was only going to have to clone Halo and do pegging. I didnt think that they would go to such great lengths to use my name. And it only shows what absolute fools they are.

Just to be clear, was bob part of the team behind bay originally?  who is now overseeing the project? I understand your the dev, but who else is officially behind this project.

His name was already made public, his name is Steven Dai from China. Hes a really good guy in my opinon.

I didnt know who Bob and Gekko were before this. I learned quick that they are just a couple of sleazy extortionists. After they were asked to leave for extorting they acted like a bunch of pussies and started making threats.

If anything this has proven to only be entertaining.

It doesnt stop me from developing either so in effect the only ones they are incriminating is themselves.

Although they do seem to like abusing fake accounts.

Even David Zimbeck Say patrick/Steven Dai is a Good Guy.. what you guys are arguing?

Also in China.. everyone know Patrick is not a Scammer.. on the contrary.. he is smart and nice.

what your guys are accusing ?  you are accusing satoshi never told you his real name?  

please attack Qtum's design rather than individual aggression.

[Gleb Gamow]

well this can get real interesting i will be keeping an eye on it.
has anyone confirmed that roger ver is indeed an investor?

If he is, he has partnered with Star Xu. Funny ole game, huh.

You caught that, eh? I laughed my ass off when I first saw that, holding off on sharing till I conjured up the right words [and best time to relay].

please attack Qtum's design rather than individual aggression.

Sonny Vleisides of BFL: I'm on a good track now. Since ripping off ~$50M mostly from the elderly is ancient history, how do you like our design? Product rollout in ONLY two weeks.

[cybterpunk]

well this can get real interesting i will be keeping an eye on it.
has anyone confirmed that roger ver is indeed an investor?

If he is, he has partnered with Star Xu. Funny ole game, huh.

You caught that, eh? I laughed my ass off when I first saw that, holding off on sharing till I conjured up the right words [and best time to relay].

please attack Qtum's design rather than individual aggression.

Sonny Vleisides of BFL: I'm on a good track now. Since ripping off ~$50M mostly from the elderly is ancient history, how do you like our design? Product rollout in ONLY two weeks.

how do you think that qtum technical white paper?
https://qtum.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Qtum-technical-white-paper-draft-version.pdf

is this a good project or not?